Mini 1409: Storm of Songs (GAME OVER)

[d3x]

@Z- I have a stronger Town read on BB than I do on most of the other nonActives. Speaking of...

@Mod

- A D1 2nd prod on GNR, plz. /sigh

Happy Anniversary, quadz!

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Agar - Scum

I know I'm behind the times while saying this, but looking through his ISO, out of 35 posts, 2 (maybe 3) actually seem like trying to scumhunt
The rest of his posts seem more like showing his dislike on his wagon or commenting on small things

BBmolla - Leaning Scum

Don't really know what to say here. Most of his posts are either tunneling me or Agar or making comments about those. Doesn't really seem like scumhunting, more like gutchecking than anything. Also, what's up with the emus? More of a null read, but leaning scum because I get a bad vibe from them

CyberBob - Leaning Town

Posts seem genuine enough, though they seem like BB's, mainly comments, not so much of anything else. More of a gut read than anything
Curious as to how he came to the conclusion in post 344. Nothing before it says anything about quadz

How did you come to this?

d3x - Town

Actively scumhunting and actively involved. I also get a good vibe from the posts. Nothing seems fake.

DeasVail - Town

Scumhunting and active in discussions. Another ISO with good vibes from it

FourTrouble - Leaning Town

FT is scumhunting and commenting on the game status when around. He does seem a bit too much defensive though
Also explains his reads

Kthxbye - Leaning Town

Had as a town read through most of the ISO, but some of the recent posts, particularly votes, seem off. In particular, the Om vote seems out of place

levianthan93 - Leaning Town

Other than trying to read the beginning posts, levi comes off as town to me. Post 124 with the post counts seems really odd to me. Like he was trying to look like he is involved, but other than that, town

Om - Leaning Scum

Some his posts seem forced, particularly 194. I'm just getting bad vibes from the slot

quadz08 - Town

His post style seems odd to me, but I've seen enough of his games to know thats his style. Involved in discussion

Ser Arthur Dayne - Leaning Scum

Most of his posts are wagon votes. Others aren't really part of the discussion. More of a null read

Zoidberg - Leaning Town

His posts seem town, but for some reason, I get a bad vibe from them. Not enough to call him leaning scum, but its there.

[xRECKONERx]

Prodding Cyberbob.

[Kthxbye]

VOTE: GNRtoo opportunistic on calling out AGar scum imo.

Quadz: I thought you were doing it on purpose seeing as how you got some heat and then v/la for a period of time that went to deadline. I don't apologize for thinking it either.

[xRECKONERx]

Cyberbob has requested replacement.

[xRECKONERx]

Untrod Tripod replaces Cyberbob.

[Untrod Tripod]

what's up what's up what's up in the hizzy

[Untrod Tripod]

first of all

unvote

reck just asked me to replace in, I'll read the game tonight. it's not too long so I should be able to get reads and revote

[xRECKONERx]

Votecount 1.12

Om (0):
Zoidberg (0):
D3x (0):
Guy_Named_Riggs (3): d3x, Om, Kthxbye
Quadz08 (1): AGar
DeasVail (1): Ser Arthur Dayne
leviathan93 (1): Guy_Named_Riggs
Untrod Tripod (0):
Ser Arthur Dayne (0):
Kthxbye (1): FourTrouble
BBmolla (0):
Four Trouble (0):
AGar (4): quadz08, BBmolla, Zoidberg, DeasVail

Not voting: leviathan93, Untrod Tripod

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on 01/27/2013 at 1:00PM EST.

[Zoidberg]

Oh look I found scum.

Here are relevant parts of GNR's "reads" post. Everyone that I snipped out he says is town. Note that the only one he's not "leaning scum" on is Agar.

Agar - Scum

BBmolla - Leaning Scum

Don't really know what to say here. Most of his posts are either tunneling me or Agar or making comments about those. Doesn't really seem like scumhunting, more like gutchecking than anything. Also, what's up with the emus? More of a null read, but leaning scum because I get a bad vibe from them

levianthan93 - Leaning Town

Other than trying to read the beginning posts, levi comes off as town to me. Post 124 with the post counts seems really odd to me. Like he was trying to look like he is involved, but other than that, town

Om - Leaning Scum

Some his posts seem forced, particularly 194. I'm just getting bad vibes from the slot

Ser Arthur Dayne - Leaning Scum

Most of his posts are wagon votes. Others aren't really part of the discussion. More of a null read

Now, I left leviathan in that list because we see that GNR's vote is on someone he considers town?!?!

Votecount 1.12

leviathan93 (1): Guy_Named_Riggs

Huehuehue.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GNR

[DeasVail]

VOTE: GNRtoo opportunistic on calling out AGar scum imo.

Quadz: I thought you were doing it on purpose seeing as how you got some heat and then v/la for a period of time that went to deadline. I don't apologize for thinking it either.

Why can't he be town agreeing that AGar is scum?

I don't really have a townread on him, but I don't really find his latest post particularly scummy.

[DeasVail]

And Zoidberg's reasoning isn't really great either.

[DeasVail]

I'm really sorry to triple post (I feel I've just been getting worse and worse at it lately), but I also wanted to say that I have a pretty decent townread Om.

[Zoidberg]

And Zoidberg's reasoning isn't really great either.

Game is stalled; tunneling on single player won't get us anywhere.

Want to see where this takes us.

Happy

to switch back to Agar if that wagon goes anywhere.

[DeasVail]

Game is stalled; tunneling on single player won't get us anywhere.

How is this true if he's scum?

[DeasVail]

I also don't understand why you respond to criticism of your reasoning for thinking GNR is scum with a reason for unvoting AGar.

[Zoidberg]

Game is stalled; tunneling on single player won't get us anywhere.

How is this true if he's scum?

What? Read the thread. People abandoned the agar wagon and then the game stalled because nobody had anything to say.

I changed my vote to someone else that I think is scummy in hopes of jumpstarting the game.

I 100% do not understand your problem with this. Agar's alignment doesn't change what I'm doing. I'm so baffled as to why you even brought that up.

I also don't understand why you respond to criticism of your reasoning for thinking GNR is scum with a reason for unvoting AGar.

It's related. Re-read what I wrote.

[Zoidberg]

I mean it's pretty fucking irritating coming from you, who's done fuck-all to push the agar wagon, to tell me that trying to generate discussion is somehow a bad thing.

[DeasVail]

If AGar is scum, then tunelling on him is a good thing. Saying that tunnelling on him is a bad thing is assuming that he's not scum in my opinion. Obviously people are more motivated to get a lynch in before deadline approaches, and I think that without people using bad reasons to change their vote from AGar, it would be quite likely that his lynch would occur before deadline. You can still discuss, but moving your vote from AGar at this time is telling me that you don't want him lynched and I think that the reason you've provided for moving off AGar is not one which would realistically dampen your desire to lynch AGar.

What I was originally commenting on was your reason for GNR being scum in the first place, which I feel is not a good reason to suspect someone. Your reaction to this I find really strange, because you're completely ignoring my criticism and instead saying other stuff.

I also do not think you have good reason to be irritated with me. I have stated why I think AGar is scum and have voted for him. This is all the pushing I feel necessary with him being a major wagon. Closer to deadline, I would be more insistent that he is lynched. Now that GNR is becoming a significant wagon, I am questioning the reasoning of those joining it. If by pushing the wagon, you mean posting in the following manner:

"AGAR IS SCUM. WHAT ARE YOU IDIOTS DOING NOT LYNCHING HIM. AGAR IS SCUM."

although it may be effective for some players, I do not think anyone would take me seriously.

Overall, I think your reaction to this is over-the-top and your apparent confusion over my posts not very believable.

[Om]

Agar - Scum

I know I'm behind the times while saying this, but looking through his ISO, out of 35 posts, 2 (maybe 3) actually seem like trying to scumhunt
The rest of his posts seem more like showing his dislike on his wagon or commenting on small things

BBmolla - Leaning Scum

Don't really know what to say here. Most of his posts are either tunneling me or Agar or making comments about those. Doesn't really seem like scumhunting, more like gutchecking than anything. Also, what's up with the emus? More of a null read, but leaning scum because I get a bad vibe from them

CyberBob - Leaning Town

Posts seem genuine enough, though they seem like BB's, mainly comments, not so much of anything else. More of a gut read than anything
Curious as to how he came to the conclusion in post 344. Nothing before it says anything about quadz

How did you come to this?

d3x - Town

Actively scumhunting and actively involved. I also get a good vibe from the posts. Nothing seems fake.

DeasVail - Town

Scumhunting and active in discussions. Another ISO with good vibes from it

FourTrouble - Leaning Town

FT is scumhunting and commenting on the game status when around. He does seem a bit too much defensive though
Also explains his reads

Kthxbye - Leaning Town

Had as a town read through most of the ISO, but some of the recent posts, particularly votes, seem off. In particular, the Om vote seems out of place

levianthan93 - Leaning Town

Other than trying to read the beginning posts, levi comes off as town to me. Post 124 with the post counts seems really odd to me. Like he was trying to look like he is involved, but other than that, town

Om - Leaning Scum

Some his posts seem forced, particularly 194. I'm just getting bad vibes from the slot

quadz08 - Town

His post style seems odd to me, but I've seen enough of his games to know thats his style. Involved in discussion

Ser Arthur Dayne - Leaning Scum

Most of his posts are wagon votes. Others aren't really part of the discussion. More of a null read

Zoidberg - Leaning Town

His posts seem town, but for some reason, I get a bad vibe from them. Not enough to call him leaning scum, but its there.

So, I'm leaning scum because of the post in which me believing in BB's claim and my willingness to lynch you seemed forced?
Calling your counter wagon target scum but not voting him?
The guy you're voting is listed as leaning town?

Seriously? I think this post of yours was actually good example of what I call forced.

[Untrod Tripod]

only through the first eightish pages, but I'd be pretty happy lynching GNR

[Zoidberg]

v/la until monday

[DeasVail]

only through the first eightish pages, but I'd be pretty happy lynching GNR

What do you think of AGar?

[DeasVail]

Or Zoidberg even. He's a kind of scumread for me, but doesn't quite make complete sense with GNR-scum or GNR-town to me.

[Untrod Tripod]

if Agar is scum, he's scum with quadz

but I don't think they are

Zoidberg is null to me, as of now.