Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[Balrog]

@Zepher: I don't remember a single post Klick has made.

[-L-]

In reviewing iso:

Klick does not scum hunt, merely says a lot of one liners. He did however ask benmage why me replacing out was a scum tell. Could he have done it as a way to gain my favor? (Scummy) To genuinely ask benmage the question? (Towntell) My read on klick is null-scum.

Balrog in my mind is not confirmed town. Sure, it would be awful if the mod said what he did and balrog was scum, but the phrase also reads well for scum. Experienced players will, as scum, try to look for anyway they might lose. If my balrog thoughts are right, scumbalrog could also have questioned the mod to death to find out the nature of the wishes, and subsequently posted a game breaking strategy to get it refused by the mod. It wins town points with some (most) and allows him to post as he likes.

It has been two days since I asked him that question. And he continues to ignore me. Those who call me stupid for voting balrog now see why I am voting him. It isn't far fetched. Not to mention others' observation of balrog's meta and his lack of scum hunting, makes me believe my vote is in the right place.

Sanjay's case on PV sounds legit.

[Sanjay]

-L-, ISOs are really helpful for tackling a big thread, but make sure you are seeing the posts in context too.

For instance, I think the fact that Klick asked about why replacing out was a scumtell only after I brought up the idea that you've replaced out as town before gives him a lot less townpoints. I'm not saying it's a scumtell (the question kind of naturally follows from what I was saying. TownKlick could have easily asked it).

I can only imagine how frustrating it is to have Balrog go this long without answering your question. I mean, if I had asked you to explain what your motivation behind this post:

So now we have the following as town:

Me
Balrog
HD
Sanjay
PV
Vifam (probably)
-L-

and you still hadn't done it, I'd be super bummed!

What question exactly do you want Balrog to address?

[Klick]

Oh and HD is probably scum.

I can agree with this.

Disregard this, I mixed this up with a different game. (obviously not bringing said game up, but if you try you can find that I'm not lying about its existence.) HD is pretty obviously town here.

The speed of this game is obviously not going to allow me to post as often in comparison to others. My productivity will probably come in bursts most of the time.

[numberQ]

Vote Count (1.5)

-L- [3] Seanald, Balrog, captaineddie
adorkable [0]
Balrog [2] -L-, kiwieagle
Benmage [0]
captaineddie [0]
Human Destroyer [0]
kiwieagle [1] Klick
Klick [2] MrZepher, Human Destroyer
MrZepher [0]
PeregrineV [3] adorkable, Sanjay, Vifam
Sanjay [0]
Seanald [0]
Vifam [1] PeregrineV

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not Voting:

Benmage

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-12 16:45:00)

[Balrog]

Wow, L. It hasn't even been 2 full days. I haven't been home in the past 48 hours. This is the last goddamn time that I'm going to repeat that I can NOT vote and I can NOT quote when I'm phone posting. I told you I would try to get to you at some point tonight. To push a little further, you mentioned people's observations of my meta - you're going to have to excuse me for calling you out for being full of shit, given that nobody here KNOWS my meta. Which I've stated at least once. But wait, you would know all of this if you had actually ISO'd me like you claimed. Whoops?

You say I'm not scumhunting. Okay, let's run through a mental activity here. What actions do you qualify as scumhunting? Feel free to provide as many reasons as possible for why you perceive scumhunting in the manner that you do.

[Sanjay]

Klick, you have a scum read on PeregrineV. Why not jump on board?

[Sanjay]

Klick, did you not read my big wall post? In it, I asked why you think going after Balrog is a scumtell.

You are only allowed to not read my big wall post if you JUMP ON BOARD.

[Klick]

Klick, you have a scum read on PeregrineV. Why not jump on board?

It's not exactly a scum read. What I had for him being town still applies, but he's also looking pretty shit, so they cancel each other out and he's null.

Klick, did you not read my big wall post? In it, I asked why you think going after Balrog is a scumtell.

You are only allowed to not read my big wall post if you JUMP ON BOARD.

Because he's obvious town, and I have vague memory of kiwieagle, but if I recall, he had common sense.

But the better reason is that he seemed to have just then started thinking of wish ideas.

[Sanjay]

If I add a positive number and a negative number, it always equals zero, no matter how big either number is. That's how math works, right?

Find me a player who HASN'T towntelled this game.

Why is going against the general consensus that a player is town a scumtell? Why are scum more likely to do it? Seems kind of like a stupid move for scum to do when there are much better options to me.

[Klick]

The tells are close in size, so I'm pretty unsure about PV.

I'll give you four.

I see no town motivation for it, so I find it a slight scumtell. Again, the other tell is bigger.

[Sanjay]

Debatable.

I notice kiwieagle's not on your silly list.

[Klick]

I figured you wouldn't count him, as per that one post you made where you said that that was the towniest he's been all game that I can't seem to find.

Were you the one that posted that? I'm troubled by this.

[Sanjay]

Sure am!

I'm glad you read that. You know, since until you vote for PeregrineV, you aren't allowed not to.

[Klick]

You're cool.

Could you tell me who you think PV's partners are?

[-L-]

The reason I added my name to that list was because I am town and saw a list without my name on it. Nothing more, nothing to analyze here.

[Sanjay]

You're cool.

Could you tell me who you think PV's partners are?

I have some guesses.

Could you tell me why you want to know?

[Klick]

I figure you're most likely right on at least one, considering the number of general townreads there are.

[Sanjay]

Sounds like you are trying to lynch the cart before the horse.

[Vifam]

Can I just say Pere is obvious scum and needs to be lynched

[Klick]

Sounds like you are trying to lynch the cart before the horse.

I'm not sure of PV's alignment. Therefore, I want other opinions.

[adorkable]

skimmed the last 5 pages but haven't managed to absorb much, also still pretty tired and probably won't seriously look at the thread till Monday

kiwi is town. bad, but town. I said earlier I didn't really find him scummy, but like my hydra-partner said I can't see the motivation for attacking Vifam

read hasn't changed on PV, HD -could- be scum but I glazed over most of his posts since they were towards the end of the 5 pages I had to catch up on so I'll look later.

glad to see L is offering content now, she's wrong about scum-Balrog though

hate walls. dammit sanjay.

think that's all I have to add for now.

[Sanjay]

Klick, why would I want to lynch someone because I thought they were PV's partner without lynching PV first?

[Klick]

-_-

Maybe this is better worded:

Who else do you think is scum, regardless of PV's alignment?

[Sanjay]

Yeah, that would be a better way to word it.

You know, since that way it isn't a scumslip.