Mini 1409: Storm of Songs (GAME OVER)

[BBmolla]

uhhh or mass claim causes PR blocking in the case of a scum roleblocker

this being a reck setup, I don't think mass claiming is a good idea at this point because it could buttfuck town PRs

Does Reck love scum roleblockers or something.

If we don't mass claim, town could buttfuck ourselves (eg: Vig shoots another PR, Jailkeeper jails Vig, etc.) If we mass claim we can control that. If there's a scum roleblocker we're probably losing a PR anyway (assuming we don't have a Doctor, but if we supposedly do, then I'm fairly certain somebody would be lying.)

Also, Reck's answer blows.

@mod: If there was only a Mafia Jailkeeper left, would he be able to use his jailkeep and perform his kill(assuming factional uncompulsive kill)

If this can't be answered then that's absolutely ridiculous.

[BBmolla]

Why did you target Quadz Kthx?

[xRECKONERx]

@mod: If there was only a Mafia Jailkeeper left, would he be able to use his jailkeep and perform his kill(assuming factional uncompulsive kill)

If the factional kill and jailkeep were both noncompulsive, then no, he could not do both.

[Untrod Tripod]

scum RB is not an uncommon role, and given the number of likely PRs, it's not out of the question for there to be one.

why are you willing to allow one nullified and one dead town player EVERY NIGHT if there is one

that's a really dumb gamble

[Untrod Tripod]

also the number of kills opens up the possibility that there's an SK in the mix and LOLNOPE to the SK getting to help take swings at the PRs

massclaiming is bad news bears

[Kthxbye]

I honestly can't see a reason you'd want to push a lynch on a claimed town PR as a town player. I don't think you are GNR's scumbuddy (re-my belief scum didn't bus GNR), but you're definitely not acting as though you have a town WINCON. I wonder if you figured that out a little late after your p670 and p672 generating the p673 redaction.

p.edit: I targeted quadz on a hunch. It was him or DV due to them remaining on the AGar wagon. I should have targetted FT since I'm pretty sure he's anti-town as well.

@UT: So you're saying you DON'T believe my claim then? Think I'm going to come out the gate D2 and fake claim something as the probable last remaining scum? Also, your argument against a MC is that you believe I'm a scum RB?

[Untrod Tripod]

no? I just said I don't think you're scum

[Kthxbye]

That is not what you hinted at in p678

[quadz08]

He didn't hint at anything in regards to your alignment in that post at all?

[Untrod Tripod]

oh, yeah, that was in regards to BBmolla's 675

[Kthxbye]

I read it as him thinking I was fake claiming. I could be wrong after rereading it. BUT, scum gf and rb with sk, vig, cop, miller and jk......I don't see that as the setup.

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean

that's not an unreasonable setup actually

[quadz08]

It's unreasonable for Reck

That's not enough PR's, and none of them are weird.

[Kthxbye]

In fact, I think you should sit down and trip a bit tonight, so you can come back fresh tomorrow with a clear head. Zoidberg should do the same.

By the by, here is my breadcrumb for my PR.

[Kthxbye]

Miller isn't common in my experience. Thus I consider it wierd enough.

[BBmolla]

scum RB is not an uncommon role, and given the number of likely PRs, it's not out of the question for there to be one.

why are you willing to allow one nullified and one dead town player EVERY NIGHT if there is one

that's a really dumb gamble

Uh, that's probably going to happen even if we don't mass claim.
Look, if we mass claim it stops jailkeeper from blocking a vig by protecting target or roleblocking him. (It also prevents him from blocking any other PRs or other PRs getting shot, I don't know if there even are any more though.)
If we don't mass claim, jailkeeper might fuck up other PRs, that simple.

If the vig is one-shot and claims then I don't think we should mass claim.

Also that makes complete sense as a setup to me.

Also unless Reck normally makes Mafia nightkills compulsive, or unless we believe a Serial Killer Jailkeeper could exist, Kthx is probably town and in turn Quadz.

[Untrod Tripod]

you are proposing a more efficient way to get our PRs killed off before lylo

that is what you are doing

[Kthxbye]

PRs dont win games, good scum hunting does. And since we nailed scum day 1, it sets us up for success by reducing our lynch pool today.

[BBmolla]

We get possibly fucked either way so idc I just like when I know what's going on instead of us fucking ourselves over that's all.

We should lynch FT regardless.

[Kthxbye]

claim bb

[BBmolla]

I'd rather not.

[Untrod Tripod]

you'd rather not claim first, or you'd rather not claim at all?

[xRECKONERx]

Votecount 2.1

Om (1): d3x
Zoidberg (1): FourTrouble
D3x (0):
Quadz08 (0):
Untrod Tripod (0):
Ser Arthur Dayne (0):
Kthxbye (1): Ser Arthur Dayne
BBmolla (0):
FourTrouble (3): Kthxbye, Om, BBmolla

Not voting: Zoidberg, quadz08, Untrod Tripod

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is on February 13th at 1:00AM EST.

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't want him to get quickhammered, so I'm not going to vote him yet

but I intend to vote for fourtrouble when this discussion is done

[d3x]

I'm against MC, I'm not against 4T swinging.