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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:20 am

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Sorry, I forgot that I joined this game.

I'm not going to vote for Reck unless he explains why he needs to die.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:17 am

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wtf guys 3 pages and I never even saw this start!?! :o

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:22 am

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In post 29, Kthxbye wrote:Miller?

rolefishing aye?

!vote [Kthxbye]


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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:29 am

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And you don't have a problem with Reck claiming what seems to be a negative-utility role and acting like he needs to be lynched?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:45 am

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In post 48, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
In post 18, Katsuki wrote:
In post 14, Shmugen wrote:
!vote: [Kthxbye]


Why are you not voting Reck?


Why single out Shmugen?


Because I've played with him before.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:31 am

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In post 29, Kthxbye wrote:Miller?

In post 30, Leafsnail wrote:
In post 27, xRECKONERx wrote:My role is definitely pretty rare, yep.

This isn't how you'd want to handle a negative role at all. So are you scum or what.

In post 34, Shmugen wrote:inb4 he drew VT and just wants out.

In post 48, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
In post 18, Katsuki wrote:
In post 14, Shmugen wrote:
!vote: [Kthxbye]


Why are you not voting Reck?


Why single out Shmugen?

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Reck, if your role is so anti-town that you must die (which I doubt, btw) why don't you just claim it?

In post 50, Zang wrote:Sorry, I forgot that I joined this game.

I'm not going to vote for Reck unless he explains why he needs to die.

In post 52, shos wrote:
In post 29, Kthxbye wrote:Miller?

rolefishing aye?

!vote [Kthxbye]


kthxbai


So shos, why did you single me out when there are 4 other posts that one could call Role Fishing (light or otherwise)? Also, under the current situation, how exactly do you call any of them Role Fishing? If you can explain that, also explain why you would see this "Role Fishing" more likely scum motivated?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:47 am

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In post 55, Kthxbye wrote:
If you can explain that, also explain why you would see this "Role Fishing" more likely scum motivated?


I know your question was addressed to shos, so I'll leave plenty of room for his response, but you've been ascummulating points already in this very short game, your rolefish was but one of
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:41 pm

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Kinda harsh, Katsu.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:43 pm

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In post 56, MrObvious wrote:
In post 55, Kthxbye wrote:
If you can explain that, also explain why you would see this "Role Fishing" more likely scum motivated?


I know your question was addressed to shos, so I'll leave plenty of room for his response, but you've been ascummulating points already in this very short game, your rolefish was but one of
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:54 pm

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In post 57, Shmugen wrote:Kinda harsh, Katsu.


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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:01 pm

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you weren't, huh? He your partner?

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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:22 pm

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In post 55, Kthxbye wrote:So shos, why did you single me out when there are 4 other posts that one could call Role Fishing (light or otherwise)? Also, under the current situation, how exactly do you call any of them Role Fishing? If you can explain that, also explain why you would see this "Role Fishing" more likely scum motivated?

!vote: Kthxbye
poor response. Rather than shrug off the vote like most people would you've gone for a sortof passive-aggressive counterattack. This strikes me more as a desire to score points against shos than to identify his alignment.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:05 pm

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In post 58, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
Like to share these several factors?


Sheeping 2x
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:06 pm

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Crap!

EBWOP: Inferred indifference to alignment of desired lynch target
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:40 pm

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shos wrote:rolefishing aye?


What is your opinion on Reck's claim?

MrObvious wrote:Sheeping 2x
Role fishing
Inferred inifference to alignment of desied lynch target


Is there a reason why you did not include these reasons with your original vote or in the previous post when you said that you had multiple reasons?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:42 pm

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In post 61, Leafsnail wrote:
In post 55, Kthxbye wrote:So shos, why did you single me out when there are 4 other posts that one could call Role Fishing (light or otherwise)? Also, under the current situation, how exactly do you call any of them Role Fishing? If you can explain that, also explain why you would see this "Role Fishing" more likely scum motivated?

!vote: Kthxbye
poor response. Rather than shrug off the vote like most people would you've gone for a sort of passive-aggressive counterattack. This strikes me more as a desire to score points against shos than to identify his alignment.


So instead of calling out that shos ignored other rolefishing, I was supposed to ignore it and not asked for motives behind it? How is asking for reason and clarification statements of shos anti-town? (oops, prolly should be ignoring this vote from you and...uh...not asked you to explain and....uh....not posted I guess, eh?....ah well).
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@Obvious: Let me clear the Inferred part for you. I am voting Reck and actually don't care what his alignment is. He says he's anti-town, I don't see how that's a beneficial statement from someone beneficial to town. scum/miller/etc, death becomes him to clear the weeds. So you're list is now:

Sheeping 2x
Role fishing
Indifference to alignment of player who desires lynch
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:58 pm

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woah Im confused already with people wanting to kill themselves,however kthxbye has me leaning to vote them. Why? Because I dont like how he also wanted people to kill him after seeing hesitance with people afraid of voting rec. I dont know I saw it scummy. ANyways will reread tomorrow long day today for me.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:04 pm

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In post 65, Kthxbye wrote:
So instead of calling out that shos ignored other rolefishing, I was supposed to ignore it and not asked for motives behind it? How is asking for reason and clarification statements of shos anti-town? (oops, prolly should be ignoring this vote from you and...uh...not asked you to explain and....uh....not posted I guess, eh?....ah well).

Whether or not other people were doing it is irrelevant to the validity of the accusation. You could've maybe brought it up if it was bothering you so much (it shouldn't have, shos' vote was probably close to a randomvote) but it doesn't work as a response to the accusation by itself.

"Asking for reason and clarification" is ok, but it's not the thing you did.

In post 65, Kthxbye wrote:
@Obvious: Let me clear the Inferred part for you. I am voting Reck and actually don't care what his alignment is. He says he's anti-town, I don't see how that's a beneficial statement from someone beneficial to town. scum/miller/etc, death becomes him to clear the weeds.

Jesters do exist in Xylbot setups, and they're only Uncommon. So you should care about his alignment.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:14 pm

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In post 64, Zang wrote:
Is there a reason why you did not include these reasons with your original vote or in the previous post when you said that you had multiple reasons?

Yes, that's how I roll. The first instance is the type of vote that can create reactions and discussion. The second, I didn't want to step all over the question K had for shos, but I wanted to let know K know that I had more than one reason for my voting him.



In post 65, Kthxbye wrote:So you're list is now:

Sheeping 2x
Role fishing
Indifference to alignment of player who desires lynch
(I corrected this statement to more accurately show what's happening).

Fair enough. It's still early in the game. Someone scummier than you will most likely step forward soon, I'm just working with what I have at this moment.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:16 pm

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In post 60, Voidedmafia wrote:you weren't, huh? He your partner?

!Vote Katsuki


Is this another random vote?

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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:30 pm

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In post 67, Leafsnail wrote:Whether or not other people were doing it is irrelevant to the validity of the accusation. You could've maybe brought it up if it was bothering you so much (it shouldn't have, shos' vote was probably close to a randomvote) but it doesn't work as a response to the accusation by itself.

Perhaps, but people don't like being singled out if others do it, too.

Even so, I don't really feel like I agree with what you're saying here. Regardless of what Shos accused kthnx of, if at least 3-4 other people did it as well yet Shos only accuses kthnx without much...substantial reasoning (for lack of a better word), I don't see why kthnx shouldn't point out that others are. Plus, given the levity of the accusation shos did place, kthnx calling him out on this isn't a weak response at all.

In post 66, Luckyjt wrote:woah Im confused already with people wanting to kill themselves,however kthxbye has me leaning to vote them. Why? Because I dont like how he also wanted people to kill him after seeing hesitance with people afraid of voting rec. I dont know I saw it scummy. ANyways will reread tomorrow long day today for me.

...What?

In post 69, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Is this another random vote?

Possibly. Possibly not. I have half a hankering to vote Leafsnail now, though.

In post 69, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Useless questions.

Explain how asking Shos to comment on what kthnx was talking about is a useless question, as Shos hasn't actually commented on Reck's actions, just kthnx's reaction to it.

Explan how asking why reasons for votes weren't placed with the vote itself (or reference explicitly/implicitly) is useless.

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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:03 pm

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In post 60, Voidedmafia wrote:you weren't, huh? He your partner?

!Vote Katsuki


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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:04 pm

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As leaf said, this was a haldrandom thingie; your fishing was probably the first that my eye caught, dunno - but anyway - that response was indeed quite dodge-y. This is mafia, the chances where someone says 'lynch me' and that is the right thing to do are really slim; half the quotes you gave are stuff I see no rolefishing in at all.

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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:10 pm

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...You really don't see the rolefishing in Shmugen's and TML's? Really?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:13 pm

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