Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[Human Destroyer]

Yeah but you can fake a day cop wish pretty easily

A day vig, on the other hand, can't be faked, but again, if backfired, it'd probably kill the killer, so.

[Benmage]

Hows that worse backfire than a night vig?

You wanna vig.. do so at night.

Getting a kill and selfconfirming town... OP.

[numberQ]

I feel that the town-confirming nature of day wishes would be balanced by allowing the mafia to make wishes as well. Of course, that would also have to be balanced but I'd rather allow as many options as possible. Makes it funner imo

[Sanjay]

I stand by what I said about Benmage's wish. Really not strategically optimal given how crazy powerful the town was, but a very cool wish. Probably my favorite wish in the game that I didn't personally wish for.

I think the most powerful thing the town could do was confirm themselves. Yes, because of the day vigs we got a million lynches that could not be blocked, but the biggest problem mafia faced that if a townie had the mind to confirm themselves as town, there was nothing they could do to stop that from happening. Mafia absolutely need wishes for this to work, I think.

Either that or mafia needs way more control over the wishes they backfire. Doing the exact opposite doesn't really do anything if the town is ready for it.

I enjoyed this game and I love this setup and want to help fix it.

By the way, mafia played pretty well this game. Adorkable seemed very townish, kiwi leaned town to me and Seanald at least kept a low profile. I think you probably could have been more proactive in your wish choices (claim guilties on people, do stuff to get townies lynched and end the day, after all that claim you were backfired) and you probably should have ignored the option to backfire because it doesn't really do anything. That's all hindsight, of course. But good game.

I'll post more later if anyone's still reading. I'm gonna go watch some Buffy.

[Balrog]

My phone just ate my post. I'll repost it tomorrow.

[adorkable]

female half of adorkable here (the other head is male, so it was kind of annoying to have everyone constantly calling us a she, but I guess at least you guys were half right?) -- I was really, really disappointed to pull scum in this game, and even more disappointed to discover that the balancing was nonexistent.

I'd totally play in an actually balanced version, though.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

This was a fun read. Q and I tried to figure out how best to go about the set-up, but we see how well that worked out.

One thing I would have wished for - To be an Innocent Child
PGO that targetted only scum-aligned players
Anti-Fairy Decter on leading wagon
etc...

[Human Destroyer]

Can't wish to be an Innocent Child

When I asked mod said no

[Human Destroyer]

The other 2 are p clever though

[adorkable]

One question for the mod: did you ever get the setup reviewed by someone who's been on the site for a while and typically does setup reviews? There's a thread for review requests or you can usually just PM someone like Empking or Hoopla and ask nicely and they'll look it over for you.

Because I have a hard time believing this setup got past an experienced reviewer and if you didn't actually send it to someone, that's something you should prooooooooooooobably make sure you do in the future.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I looked over it, but I'm not going to say I'm an experienced set-up reviewer. The thing I was looking at more was balanced with roles. Neither of us thought that the town would pretty much destroy scum with the wishes, hence th beginning

[adorkable]

welp, there you go.

rule number one of modding: get your setup reviewed, even if you don't think it needs it.

lesson hopefully learned for next time, at least?

[numberQ]

welp, there you go.

rule number one of modding: get your setup reviewed, even if you don't think it needs it.

lesson hopefully learned for next time, at least?

Yeah, lesson 110% learned. No offense, Riggs. : P

[numberQ]

Oh, and to Sanjay: if you were serious about wanting to help, just know that I won't be modding another game like this until AT LEAST after my next modded game, which will be after someone else's game, since we'll be co-modding. We got some hopefully pretty awesome stuff planned out.

[Lincolm]

I love Sanjay's wish.

[Seanald]

Sanjay's wish was epic. really epic. did no one like my fake wish like wtf? it woulda been my real wish if i could make real wishes.

[MrZepher]

Would have been easier to argue for if you had showed up Day 2 and if you weren't confirmed scum by PoE

[Balrog]

Seanald, your wish was impossible according to the rules - so I knew you were lying either way.

[Seanald]

was worried about that. I was actually so lazy I didnt even check to see if I had posted in day 2, while claiming I had a post restrict lol

[Sanjay]

All in all, this was my role PM.

Spoiler:

You are

Obi-Sanjay Kenobi

,

town 2-shot weak neighborizing reflexive tree stump

.



[-] During the day, you may talk and vote.

[-]

Strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine

: On death, you gain the ability to post in any threads or QTs you would otherwise have access to.

[-]

Why do I get the feeling you'll be the death of me?

: During the day, you can recruit two Padawans. You will get a QT with each Padawan in which you can daytalk. However, if your Padawan learner turns out to have a different alignment from you, getting the QT will also kill you.

[-]

Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time

: I know that "Ben Kenobi" is not in the game.

[-] You win when the Anti-Fairies are no longer a threat.

Credit for the original Obi-Wan Kenobi image here.

[adorkable]

hah, I want that role in an actual game.o

[adorkable]

(how did that o get there?)

[Sanjay]

Reflexive treestump and weak day neighborizer both roles I've always wanted to play. They synergize pretty well together too.

Reflexive treestump turned out to be just as awesome as I hoped it would be. Kind of a ridiculous thing for me to wish for in thus particular game given how bad my reads were. Luckily, my read that the town could spare a few wishes and I could just wish for fun stuff turned out to be the only thing I was right about.

I didn't really get to be much of a weak day neighborizer, but that's just as well because obviously the town didn't need ANOTHER confirmed innocent or guilty. I would really love to play as one in a regular game.

[esuriospiritus]

mhm,

sanjay, you seem pretty cool and I'd love to play in an actually balanced game with you sometime.

[esuriospiritus]

oh whoops that should have been under adorkable

oh well, no fucks given anymore