NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Majiffy]

Is this to me?

[Dreams of Grandeur]

thinking aj is town. if you move him up who would you move down?

i have no idea
most of my townreads are strong
ask me tomorrow

[Dreams of Grandeur]

i guess ActionDan
but he seems so town right now
i'd ask mantis.

[Dreams of Grandeur]

please believe in me
together we can do this
otherwise we're done

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: arcangel

[ActionDan]

sorry I'm really mad right now and I didn't finish my read-through. there's a lot of excitement with the claims but just take it a bit slow for now please. I don't want to rush this day. ty.

[pirate mollie]

wait a minute no

UNVOTE: arcangel

until I hear more reads from the nacho part of dreamz

[AngryPidgeon]

Frankly Nacho, you don't have Matt down as scum and that is turrrrrible. Look at his play this game. Hes just trolling the fuck out of us and people are writing him off as town for being a dumbass.

He hasn't actually done anything substantial today except to swoop in, execute a pre-planned fake claim, herp and derp around after IaI's response, and leave. Without having read anything. Lynch that. On the off chance he is town, he is still a detriment.

@Majiffy: I'll give you that Mos isn't as firm as a townread for me as other people are.
@Mollie: If I told you Im 98% on Nacho not being mafia-aligned, would you feel any better? Rob is a book to me and Rob was town.

Re AJ the E.

AjTheEpic and Borkj

Except I'm not...

Pretty townie response. Scum are usually afraid to post so carelessly. Town dont give a fuck and are more likely to be insistent on their townieness as a general response instead of trying to posture by asking questions back or w/e.

Basically in general, AJ is doing his own thing, not playing super reactive, and is posting more or less carefree. He isn't trying to overjustify shit and he isn't waffling at all. I like his Matt suspicions throughout the game since Matt was an unpopular target. I also liked that he had a quick response to my question (showing that he really does have good reason to believe that rolefishing is a scumtell) and didn't really bother to bounce the question back at me which I would expect scum to do for the sake of looking busy. Also blatant buddying attempt to me in 2020 which is a little ballsy for scum.

tl;dr: Does not care how people perceive his posts. Took a stance on the Nero wagon that was likely to get him flak post-flip if he knew they were town. Suspecting Matt who is a hard target.

Re PereV: This is more gut based. But I really feel like I get PV. His early D1 Bitmap push was such a hard sell...I don't think scum PV would go for that. ITs just too far in left field. I think he actually believed he was on to something. Also I thought him asking AA9 for scummeta seemed fairly proactive for him. Also note he later insisted that he had something with his bitmap push and linked to a game he saw something similar. Hes town.

Lets talk about AA9/matt. They can be scum.

Why are you townreading Vifam?

[ActionDan]

Re PereV: This is more gut based. But I really feel like I get PV. His early D1 Bitmap push was such a hard sell...I don't think scum PV would go for that. ITs just too far in left field. I think he actually believed he was on to something. Also I thought him asking AA9 for scummeta seemed fairly proactive for him. Also note he later insisted that he had something with his bitmap push and linked to a game he saw something similar. Hes town.

just like to say that's how I got the strong town-read on that slot

[I Am Innocent]

Yes, but its more ridiculous to assume that IaI/Matt are town.

IaI decided to out his PR (which is the strongest in the game) in a mere 17 minute span after a lurkaderp bull****ter claimed a GS on him? Who does that? Add in the fact that Matt had already faked a bs daycop on OotN and IaI isnt even REMOTELY suspicious?

He just claims cop? What if Matt was town and faking? What if Matt was scum and faking?

IaI is either seriously bad at this game, or is mafia

Screw you buddy.

Dude I am the cop. Like you said, the strongest in the game. You said earlier town IAI wouldn't sit back and just be tunnelled, but can you picture me playing like I did in Switchboard. I got lynched D2 that game.

My hope was to lay low. Somewhat pretend to always be catching up. Truth be told, I follow this game pretty regularly on my phonem hence why I saw what was going down with what I now know was a fake claim. But I hate to post on it, and I keep track of votes on a spreadsheet on my home computer. That is where I do must of my work.

So yeah, when I knew I had somewhere between 4-6 votes already, and votes were piling up on me while I was at work (YOU AP WERE ONE OF THEM.....why weren't you remotely suspicious), I had no choice but to come clean.

Or maybe you think it better I just continue to lay low and have someone hammer without asking for a claim? LIKE DAY ONE???

No, I played the best I could in that situation. To suggest otherwise is scummy.

*********************

No more needing to lay low. I want to spell something out for everyone.

Nobody......let me repeat, NOBODY, has a town read on Jacob. If you do, I'd love to hear it, but I can't remember one person suggesting that this game....90+ odd pages worth.

Yet he continues to be an afterthought. He has not had a wagon greater than 5 votes this game. UA suggested lynching him D2 when he got lynched (1374). The only reason I didn't investigate him last night was because I thought he would be the easier of my 2 suspects to get lynched today so why waste the investigation on him over Mollie.

Boy was I wrong. Even now, Lord is confirmed. No CC on my role. I have cleared Mollie. UA flipped town. That is 4 of the last 5 wagons from D1. The 5th, which stalled at 5......Jacob.

Let's save the hours and vote him off. And if you don't want to, please state why in your next post.

[I Am Innocent]

DONE WITH THIS BEAST

here's how I'm looking for scumreads:
ArcAngel > mozamis > IaI > PeregrineV > AJ the Epic

Hey Nacho, I know it is both your town and scum meta to suspect me every game we play together, but at this point your 'suspicions' are a little ridiculous. The list above sucks, and you are now #2 on my list that I want lynched today, or people I will likely investigate tonight.

But thanx for playing, make sure to pick up your losing prize on the way out the door...

[I Am Innocent]

Jacob Jacob, come out and play....want to see who you vote for next now that I and Lord are off limits....

[I Am Innocent]

Zab, you too....don't think I forgot that you were on the Lord to me to UA jump D1 (ignoring Jacob)

[I Am Innocent]

Zab/JS/Hero's replacement, I want cross reads of the three of you in your next post.

[I Am Innocent]

@Mod, we are suppose to be getting 3 feet of snow up here this weekend. Please treat me as V/LA in case we lose power. If not, I'll be posting.

[mozamis]

IaI is the scum that was caught, we are waiting for his scum bullshit excuses

Even if no one counter claims cop?

[mozamis]

Even now, Lord is confirmed.

Why?

[mozamis]

Even now, Lord is confirmed.

Why?

didn't see Maestro's post.

[mozamis]

There we go. That's better.

VoteCount #1.15

Herobrine -

1

[L-10]

borkjerfkin
pirate mollie -

4

[L-7]

Josh Lyman, Lord Mhork, Herobrine, I Am Innocent
JacobSavage -

1

[L-10]

pirate mollie
pengiun_alien -

1

[L-10]

PeregrineV
Lord Mhork -

9

[L-2]

JacobSavage, chkflip, zabriel, Om of the Nom, MattP, Bitmap, pengiun_alien, Vifam, Majiffy
TheUnderachivers -

1

[L-10]

Aj the Epic
Josh Lyman -

2

[L-9]

mozamis, TheUnderachivers

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Lynch.

Not Voting:

UberNinja, TheReverend

V/LA over the weekend:

TheReverend, TheUnderachivers, chkflip (?)

Prod Status:

borkjerfkin and Josh Lyman prodded on request of chkflip (48 hrs. +)
UberNinja and Lord Mhork prodded because I felt like it (24 hrs. +)
JacobSavage can be requested for prodding in (expired on 2013-01-27 18:33:00)

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-02-11 17:00:00)[/mech]

[mozamis]

FINAL WAGON:
TheUnderachivers - 11 [L-0] Aj the Epic, Vifam, Herobrine, borkjerfkin, zabriel, Majiffy, chkflip, JacobSavage, TheReverend, pengiun_alien, ArcAngel9

[mozamis]

VoteCount #1.10

Bitmap -

2

[L-9]

theunderachivers, TheReverend
Herobrine -

2

[L-9]

Vifam, borkjerfkin
pirate mollie -

3

[L-8]

Josh Lyman, Bitmap, Lord Mhork
Majiffy -

1

[L-10]

JacobSavage
JacobSavage -

2

[L-9]

pirate mollie, I Am Innocent
mozamis -

5

[L-6]

chkflip, Om of the Nom, Boner Police, pengiun_alien, zabriel, Majiffy
Josh Lyman -

1

[L-10]

Aj the Epic
pengiun_alien -

3

[L-8]

PeregrineV, Herobrine, mozamis

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Lynch.

Not Voting:

UberNinja

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-02-21 17:00:00)

[mozamis]

JS on Mhork and UA Wagon.
Zab on Mhork, UA, Moz.
Om/AA on Mhork,UA, Moz.
Mattp/Boner on Mhork,Moz.
Penguin Alien on Mhork,UA,Moz.
Vifam on Mhork, UA.
Majiffy on Mhork, UA, Moz.

So JS, Zab,AA,Mattp,Penguin, Majiffy are my candidates for todays lynch.
I'm giving Vifam a pass as he has been one of my strongest town reads all game.

[Maestro]

@Mod, we are suppose to be getting 3 feet of snow up here this weekend. Please treat me as V/LA in case we lose power. If not, I'll be posting.

Noted. We got some here too.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: mattp

[AngryPidgeon]

Ya, IaI is town.

IaI why are you uninterested in mattp?