Mini 1420: The Beginning Of The End (Game Over)

[JasonWazza]

You all wake to a new day, as you move to the town center you notice 2 people missing, you walk around to find who is missing from your group.

The first body you find has blood splattered everywhere, after splatting the scene with an industrial sized hose you find the unmistakable remains of TheTrollie, you search his belongings off his person and find nothing out of the ordinary and deduce that he was a

Vanilla Townie

.

The second body you find has a lot of wounds, whoever did this wanted him dead, Dannflor is the remains that are here you start to check his person, but find nothing out of the ordinary, he was also a

Vanilla Townie

.

TheTrollie Vanilla Townie

Was killed Night 1

Dannflor Vanilla Townie

Was killed Night 1

VOTE COUNT 2.0

Not Voting: Goodmorning, Kthxbye, Ztife, Slandaar, Psyche, Nachomamma8, DeathRowKitty, Kwll, Jennifer, q21,

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-02-24 23:57:13)

[TheTrollie]

Bah...also

Mod you gotta change that green I had to copy paste it in a different place in order to read that i had died

gl guys

Mod: Thanks for mentioning that, it has been changed

[Dannflor]

BAH HUMBUG!

[Psyche]

Oh, jeez. Guess I won't get to know Trollie this game. I doubt it was scum who killed him btw, unless he hinted at a PR somewhere. >.>

I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow, probably. I have this biology test to study for and I refuse to let this distract me.

I refuse!

[Elleran]

Here's my obligatory "nooooo" post. Good luck to town.

[Kthxbye]

VOTE: q21
Well, at least D2 is easy.

[Psyche]

sure whatever

vote Q21

[Psyche]

Damn it psyche stop it

[DeathRowKitty]

VOTE: q21
Well, at least D2 is easy.

Okay.

Vote: q21

I doubt it was scum who killed him btw, unless he hinted at a PR somewhere. >.>

Why's that? And who's to say there aren't two scum teams or a scum team and a serial killer?

[Psyche]

...sleep or post or sleep or post...

Why's that? And who's to say there aren't two scum teams or a scum team and a serial killer?

I'm not excluding those possibilities. I just doubt them, given Trollie's role in this game so far. Though maybe I could imagine an SK feeling strongly enough to do it. :/

AND THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT

[q21]

Should I vote q21? It seems like the popular thing to do... if only someone could give me a reason.

[Psyche]

because kthxbye said so

duhhh

[Slandaar]

VOTE: Jennifer

I think.

[goodmorning]

Vote: Ztife

What the hell is this q21 thing?

[Jennifer]

because kthxbye said so

You mean the same Kthxbye that hammered Elleran without giving him a chance to claim and/or town to provide last thoughts going into the night?

Yeah... no.

VOTE: Kthx
Explanation please.

[Jennifer]

VOTE: Jennifer

I think.

Nope, not me. I did really think Trollie was scum though.

My best guess right now is that scum killed Dannflor for being obvtown, and an SK killed Trollie. I think if it was a town vigilante they would have gone for Kthx for hammering over Trollie for leading the lynch.

[Kthxbye]

Guess I have to explain it for the not as smart as me's....

It's fairly easy. I'm playing the simple odds game. Near 100% chance odds say 1 scum was on Elleran's wagon. Very good odds (above 50%) say 2 scum were on Elleran's wagon. Let's look at the wagon.

Slandaar,

TheTrollie

, goodmorning, q21, Nachomamma8,

Dannflor

,

Kthxbye

I have a town read on Slandaar. Leaning town on Nacho's slot. That leaves q21 and goodmorning. Neither of which give me town vibes. Could easily see both being scum after goodmorning's comment here post 438.

Q's jump back onto Elleran, post 393, is forced.

Bam, scum caught, you're welcome.
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On another note, I really don't like these from Jennifer: post 439 and post 440. Could easily see her as scum with these. IE, "we go after the easy kthxbye lynch tomorrow, ok guys?" Out of all the scummy shit I posted D1, you come out with my hammer as your reason for voting? Too noob-scum a move, sorry. Also, an SK killing Trollie has to be about the dumbest thing I've heard. Trollie was viewed by many as scummy. I agree scum didn't kill him, but assuming another anti-town role did is like arguing with your reason for scum not doing it! Why would an SK want to get rid of anyone town has scum-vibes from? Makes no sense.
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As for explaining my hammer....well...uh...I thought the cases were good and voted someone I thought could be scum? duh? I'd go into my being impulsive and reiterate that I hate D1's again, but I won't....cept I just did....oops.
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VOTE: Jennifer

I think.

I could be down for this, but I think someone from Elleran's wagon needs to die first.

[Nachomamma8]

VOTE: Jennifer

I think.

Nope, not me. I did really think Trollie was scum though.

My best guess right now is that scum killed Dannflor for being obvtown, and an SK killed Trollie. I think if it was a town vigilante they would have gone for Kthx for hammering over Trollie for leading the lynch.

This doesn't make sense. You thought Trollie was scum, but you don't think that a vigilante would have the same thoughts as you?

[Jennifer]

This doesn't make sense. You thought Trollie was scum, but you don't think that a vigilante would have the same thoughts as you?

Yep, I pushed for Trollie's lynch Day 1 and couldn't get interest in it, most people giving him a town read. I eventually had to switch targets because it wasn't a viable lynch. Elleran was the only one was interested, and Kthx hammered him.

Also, I don't buy Kthx's defense "My move was too scummy for me to be scum."

[Kthxbye]

This doesn't make sense. You thought Trollie was scum, but you don't think that a vigilante would have the same thoughts as you?

Yep, I pushed for Trollie's lynch Day 1 and couldn't get interest in it, most people giving him a town read. I eventually had to switch targets because it wasn't a viable lynch. Elleran was the only one was interested, and Kthx hammered him.

Also, I don't buy Kthx's defense "My move was too scummy for me to be scum."

Out of my entire post, this is your response?

[q21]

Guess I have to explain it for the not as smart as me's....

It's fairly easy. I'm playing the simple odds game. Near 100% chance odds say 1 scum was on Elleran's wagon. Very good odds (above 50%) say 2 scum were on Elleran's wagon. Let's look at the wagon.

Slandaar,

TheTrollie

, goodmorning, q21, Nachomamma8,

Dannflor

,

Kthxbye

I have a town read on Slandaar. Leaning town on Nacho's slot. That leaves q21 and goodmorning. Neither of which give me town vibes. Could easily see both being scum after goodmorning's comment here post 438.

Q's jump back onto Elleran, post 393, is forced.

Bam, scum caught, you're welcome.
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Things I agree with: There's almost definitely scum on the wagon. Slandaar looks townie.

Problems: Your town read on Nacho, who's predecessor voted and then expected the town to give reasons for her and then lurked to replacement before she ever explained her vote or even why she wanted others to do it for her - Nacho himself has done pretty much nothing but jump onto the terminal Elleran wagon because it was there. I'd like to see more from Nacho before making a more decisive call, but I certainly don't get a town read here.
Your claim that my vote back onto Elleran was forced is simply wrong. Also, rich coming form the scummiest vote on that wagon.
Which leads back to you: Your analysis relies, in large part, on people believing you're town. Your actions make this hard: Vote hopping (onto Trollie, jennifer, joels and elleran) onto only existing wagons (with the exception of your first joels random vote), never initiating anything. 342's looks like an attempt to set up consecutive lynches - its intriguing how your willing to lynch joels who you repeatedly say you think is town.

Take out your assumed towniness and your town read on Nacho and your analyses' conclusion has much less validity. I think that GM or nacho may be the play for today, their approaches to the day will shed some light on which one (if not both) it is.

For now, other things.

I don't get Jennifer's supposed scumminess. I've reread the thread, and her in iso. I just don't see it. Someone care to explain?

Om/Psyche - Comes out of argument with Slandaar poorly, that unvote was weird and looks like whipped scum. His replacement, Psyche, has done little more than sheep Kthx (of all the people to sheep, really) and discuss the nights goings on. Scumminess resides here.

Ztife - Bad vote on Om, acknowledges that its bad. Doesn't take it away. Closest he gets to calling anyone else scummy is to accuse joels of being a fence sitting lurker, which is said from his on comfy lurker seat on the fence. Pot calling the kettle black yes? Yes. Not enough to get a solid read, this worries me and leads to:

VOTE: Ztife

Pressure here needs to happen, he can't be allowed to slip through this day.

[kwll]

mod please remove my post it was for another game.

Mod: Done

[Slandaar]

You are going to post here though, right?

[Nachomamma8]

q21, why didn't you vote goodmorning or myself?

[Psyche]

because kthxbye said so

You mean the same Kthxbye that hammered Elleran without giving him a chance to claim and/or town to provide last thoughts going into the night?

Yeah... no.

VOTE: Kthx
Explanation please.

Eh. The case was pretty good. And he was softclaiming cop haard.

Guess I have to explain it for the not as smart as me's....

It's fairly easy. I'm playing the simple odds game. Near 100% chance odds say 1 scum was on Elleran's wagon. Very good odds (above 50%) say 2 scum were on Elleran's wagon. Let's look at the wagon.

Where do you get these odds? Is it just an artificial surmising thing?

Also,
YOU DECEITFUL SONUVAFEMALE. YOU HAD ME THINKING YOU WERE A COP. I WILL DESTROY YOU.

Om/Psyche - Comes out of argument with Slandaar poorly, that unvote was weird and looks like whipped scum. His replacement, Psyche, has done little more than sheep Kthx (of all the people to sheep, really) and discuss the nights goings on. Scumminess resides here.

I do hate that exchange with Slandaar (and I wish Om had achieved closure on that issue before leaving) as well as the fact that I haven't had time to do some psychical magic, but I'll get to that. Promise. Scumminess resides elsewhere.



...oh, that's all the posts?

Okay. I still kinda sorta need to finish reading the thread. >.>
But I'm totally posting tonight. A good post. There will be something in it for everyone.