NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:20 am

I may have an answer for that.

I thought there was a chance Nacho was a cop. The way he was SO SURE that AA9 and IaI were both scum (Especially IaI) made me curious. I figured there was a chance that he investigated AA9 on N1 because of the hammer and knew IaI was scum because he had a CC, but wanted to get AA9 lynched first w/o claiming. Turns out I was wrong, but it crossed my mind. Also he was pretty obvtown after the AA9 flip. He just seemed to have some reason for thinking she was guilty.

Also, lets face it, the mod error / force replace made it more likely he was a PR. Not that that is relevant now.

And it could be that there is a doctor and Chkflip was a vig shot. Need to check Rob's reads. In that case, scum know there is probably a doctor in the game and expected that person to target IaI (if hes isn't mafia). Anyways, Im not going to do too much until IaI posts.

pirate mollie · Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:22 am

why are you not voting matt ap

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:28 am

VOTE: Mattp

Because I want to hear I am Innocent claim a result first?

Also, if the setup is Doc/Cop/Vig/IC/Mason/mason, I don't think that is too town sided. The cop investigating the masons or the IC is a waste. The Vig shooting the unclaimed masons or the IC is also likely.

This setup makes sense in my mind with the AA9 Mafia Jailkeeper flip. I dont think the town power there is too much since the roles step on each other a little bit. And the JK + likely one other PR counter the cop a little.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:28 am

And Dan you should feel ashamed for thinking that Matt is cleared for his interactions with Om.

MattP · Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:35 am

In post 2724, pirate mollie wrote:oh so now you want to talk to me matt I FIND THAT FUNNY

I NEVER said I want to talk to you but go ahead and feel cool

pirate mollie · Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:36 am

jacob you better fucking post

ap it is a 3 person mason team and maybe the gm was counting on the vig being retarded cos it looks like they probably were!

it is entirely possible this is a multi-factional game and one of the scum teams is skipping their nks. I have done that shit in the past and it would explain the disparity of votes and the weird ass fucking play in this game.

MattP · Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:38 am

Who started the initial seed of doubt about me being town when I was an initial universal townread? Whoever that was, if they are scum then well done. I think it was UN. You get a pat on the back.

MattP · Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:39 am

Oh and btw a lesson for you all come end-game

Your first read is almost always your right read. Early game play is the world. Om was scum early game and guess what he flipped scum. I'll flip town. Take a lesson that your flipflopping isn't helpful if you have a

surefire

early read on a player.

pirate mollie · Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:39 am

In post 2731, MattP wrote:Who started the initial
seed of doubt about me being town
when I was an initial universal townread? Whoever that was, if they are scum then well done. I think it was UN. You get a pat on the back.

CAN WE PLZ LYNCH THIS BITCH IT WILL BE AWSUM I PROMISE

MattP · Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:40 am

In post 2733, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 2731, MattP wrote:Who started the initial
seed of doubt about me being town
when I was an initial universal townread? Whoever that was, if they are scum then well done. I think it was UN. You get a pat on the back.

CAN WE PLZ LYNCH THIS BITCH IT WILL BE AWSUM I PROMISE

Now now, don't be

too

antagonistic, it may get in the way of your clarity

MattP · Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:41 am

pirate mollie · Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:47 am

I hate that I have to self-censor on this site sometimes

MattP · Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:49 am

In post 2736, pirate mollie wrote:I hate that I have to self-censor on this site sometimes

Why are you so irate? It's a game of mafia. Sit back, relax

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:49 am

In post 2730, pirate mollie wrote:ap it is a 3 person mason team and maybe the gm was counting on the vig being retarded cos it looks like they probably were!

Did you just claim mason >.>

MattP · Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:50 am

Oh I totally missed that

MattP · Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:52 am

Oh yeah 3 confirmed townies and a cop

mhm real balanced

MattP · Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:57 am

I'm super excited to see IAI's investigation

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:59 am

Vifam threw out a few jabs at AA9 early on, but ends up voting ActionDan and talking about him when asked about who the best vote is. Vifam also ends up swinging to the JS wagon near the ends and then right back onto AA when it gets more steam.

Also his defenses include such atrocities as "This wagon on me is bad and isn't going to fly" and "I do X as town AND scum".

P-edit:..... We are waiting for IaI to claim a result.

PPedit: Good. Wait, what? why are you so sure he is scum again.

MattP · Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:00 am

I'm not SURE. I don't want him dead today either. I think this is INCREDIBLY unbalanced to have 5 confirmed town by D3 (not including cop)

But yeah let's let him throw out two or three more investigations we've gone over this

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:02 am

Who is your best read after IaI? All we got from you yesterday was that Nacho was evil. And your original list of Mastinero/Moz/IaI is now just IaI.

pirate mollie · Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:03 am

yes I am irate.

when I give a 98% read it should be treated as fact cos I am never wrong when I give 98% read. it either cos I know the player well enough to give that type of read or I have inside info. I had inside info on mozi which is why I gave a 98% town read. our mason board is pretty funny! I talked myself into a town read on nacho based on he did not drop his kill tell and then was talked out of it. now I am pissed cos I lost both mozi AND nacho. at least I could have written haikus with nacho and mozi would prolly have had to out today cos of teh retardz in this game and then we could have talked in the open in the game thread.

I feel so alone!

*sobz into arms*

MattP · Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:06 am

PV, JS, UN, and penguin are my four scummiest remaining reads

PM, I didn't do anything to you. Don't tunnel vision me to tunnel vision me. First day phase you had me as surefire town. Maybe you should reread to see why without a guard up

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:09 am

Vig + 3 masons + IC VS Mafia JK is really scumsided. There has to be another PR out there. I'd buy a cop, but then why didn't IaI get off'd last night?

I guess this wasn't a bad time to claim since you are basically conftown anyways.

Also a cop in a game with FOUR roles whose only job is to be conftown, does not mesh well. Same with Vig. So I dunno.

pirate mollie · Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:13 am

In post 2746, MattP wrote:PV, JS, UN, and penguin are my four scummiest remaining reads

PM, I didn't do anything to you. Don't tunnel vision me to tunnel vision me. First day phase you had me as surefire town. Maybe you should reread to see why without a guard up

you fake claimed in order to get IaI lynched you should be torched for that

MattP · Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:13 am

At the very least PM would have been NKd if IAI were town. Dream NK does not make ANY sense unless scum have a role cop and actually thought that was a more lucrative NK than a conftown NK

Scum didn't know PM was going to be confirmed. It makes perfect sense if IAI is scum to keep PM alive because when IAI flipped scum it would implicate PM who was a scumread already for a lot of people.