Khan's Wacky Xylbot Mafia (Mini 1418) - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

I'm gonna hammer anyone at L1 just FYI

[MrObvious]

That's mighty scummy of you, Reck.

[shos]

^^^ true.

Kthx: no, it is scummy IN SPITE of yhe pedit. A townie doesnt say such.things.

[xRECKONERx]

It might be.

I just can't get myself interested in this game. Sorry.

[The Mini-Librarian]

Are you.fucking kidding me. Scooby s town. Kthx is scum. Just read last page, wtf.

He claims to have not understood the crumbs and just "guessed" correcyly that he will flip doc. He also said that if he is really a doc - then.he.sjould self hammee???

Wtf.

I'm trying to follow you here. I understand the second part and would actually like kthnx to explain his thinking there, but the first part ("claims to have not understood the crumbs and just "guessed" correcyly that he will flip doc") mr obv had already claimed before the post you quoted, so I don't know what you're talking about.

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It would be amazing if someone shot Reck tonight.

[Zang]

I'm still going to vote MrObvious. His doctor claim does make me less confident in my vote. However, I still can not really see any town motivation in his play.

TML- Who do you think is scum now that you unvoted?

I'm thinking if Kat is scum, I'd have been hammered already.

Why do you think this?

no scum in his right mind attempts to hrow SHIT at his voters, or being caustic as FUCK specially when he is at L-1

I completely disagree with this.

Thanks for the productive semantics battle Zang.

I don't know how many times I have to say this but it is not a semantics battle. Although based off of what may seem like semantics, it uncovered much apparent scum motivation in your play.

because Zang misrepped me

I never misrepped you.

Seriously, would a scum doctor claim Mafia Juggernaut? Scum aren't concerned with giving their role up, it's their alignment they want staying unknown. If I was a scum doctor, I would have just claimed town doctor right off the bat. A scum doctor would make that claim in a heartbeat because he would know there is no counterclaim coming unless the town doctor is brain dead.

Except that scum love WIFOM such as this. If anything scum have more motivation than town.

Doesn't it? If Katsuki is anti-town as both town and scum, how is acting anti-town not a null tell for him?

I never said it was. I'm saying that it's scummy to use meta to justify it.

Yes.

Then is there a reason why my read on katsuki is the only thing that you are responding to from the rest of the game? Do you have any reads?

Other than this discussion with me, it doesn't really seem like you are doing anything.

Then pointing to his town meta as scum becomes part of his meta. Is pointing to his town meta as scum part of his meta?

I have not checked. I don't really think it would matter though.

Why, exactly?

There is no pro-town motivation for being lazy and it is used too often as an excuse for anti-town behavior, especially by scum.

Ah, that clarifies things. How could Katsuki have defended against #134 in a pro-town way, then (as opposed to his defence in #136)? Can you give an example?

As I already stated, Katsuki could have explained how his previous posts were town motivated or instead, he could have asked for leafsnail to explain his case more so that he could address the specific issues that leafsnail had against him.

Then I think it's unreasonable that you criticised Katsuki as you did in my second quote of #331.

I didn't quote you at all in that post but I don't find anything that I said in that post to be unreasonable.

[MrObvious]

Thanks for the productive semantics battle Zang.

I don't know how many times I have to say this but it is not a semantics battle. Although based off of what may seem like semantics, it uncovered much apparent scum motivation in your play.

It uncovered dick. Meet me in post game, we'll see who the brainiac isn't.

because Zang misrepped me

I never misrepped you.

Yes, you did.

Seriously, would a scum doctor claim Mafia Juggernaut? Scum aren't concerned with giving their role up, it's their alignment they want staying unknown. If I was a scum doctor, I would have just claimed town doctor right off the bat. A scum doctor would make that claim in a heartbeat because he would know there is no counterclaim coming unless the town doctor is brain dead.

Except that scum love WIFOM such as this. If anything scum have more motivation than town.

In this case, it was the Town Doctor not wanting to reveal his role. Once again, see you in the post game, Sherlock.

[Kthxbye]

!vote Zang

Kill this now

[Leafsnail]

So, what am I now?

Mafia! Maybe a doctor too, why not.

I don't see how you can be acting high and mighty when you literally claimed scum.

[xRECKONERx]

Mod, please replace me. Some stressful stuff has come up in my life and I just can't handle this game.

[Zang]

Obvious- You did not answer the question that I asked you.

In this case, it was the Town Doctor not wanting to reveal his role. Once again, see you in the post game, Sherlock.

Of Course! Because if I don't want to reveal my role, the first thing that I think of is to fake claim as mafia. (sarcasm)

!vote Zang
Kill this now

Can you explain the reasoning behind this vote?

[Leafsnail]

Of Course! Because if I don't want to reveal my role, the first thing that I think of is to fake claim as mafia. (sarcasm)

While at L-2 and thus not actually in danger of being forced to claim yet

[MrObvious]

You two be sure to visit me in the post game. You two are on to nothing and wasting much effort on nothing. I am the Town Doctor.

[Shmugen]

Every single time I'm about to vote MrObvious, Kthx comes back from left field. I could really use a summary of the case on MrObvious before he claimed scum before I end up so lost that I replace out too.

[Kthxbye]

I don't think it really matters what the case on MO is or was or ever will be. He bread crumbed on PAGE 3 long before anyone was "suspicious" of him. More over, seeing as this is a Whacky Xylbot game, everyone and their mother probably has a power role as seen by the example game setup's. With that in mind, who the hell actually believes he bread crumbed a PR on page 3 as scum? Go ahead, raise your hands. If you raise your hand, go ahead and explain how bread crumbing that early (and it's not like DR could mean anything else) would be a smart move by scum.

^why I'm voting you Zang....you raised your hand.

As for how one acts/posts being scummy...well, I almost always do this when I have a town PR that I am certain I can either breadcrumb (really well) early or prove later. Acting town with a PR is pretty stupid in my book. As for the fake claiming scum thing, yeah, it was MO being aggravated and not thinking clearly. With the bread crumbed PR, lynching him is anti-town regardless of how he played.

[Kthxbye]

How the hell did the one guy (me) who was ready to lynch MO so hard after the AtE BS become the only one not wanting to consider lynching MO and making any sense right now?

[Leafsnail]

How the hell did the one guy (me) who was ready to lynch MO so hard after the AtE BS become the only one not wanting to consider lynching MO

Because you are dumb and don't seem to realize that a doctor has a 50/50 chance of being mafia/town in this setup. Seriously, check the test setups, it's basically a perfect split.

If you need an answer to the question "Why would scum do something that might trick people into thinking their town?" then, well.

[Leafsnail]

Should be "they're" in that last line.

[MrObvious]

Leafs, now ask yourself this, "what town motivation would the town doctor have in claiming a non-existent mafia role?" It's really a no brainer.

[MrObvious]

Also, did you notice that in my Mafia Juggernaut claim I gave the same clue I gave to you personally as to how to find my breadcrumb?

[MrObvious]

As for the fake claiming scum thing, yeah, it was MO being aggravated and not thinking clearly.

Actually I was thinking very clearly. In my obvious fake Mafia Juggernaut claim, I included a clue how to find my breadcrumb. I was hoping a townie or two on my wagon would pick up on it and remove their vote without revealing my true role to scum.

[Voidedmafia]

Leafs, now ask yourself this, "what town motivation would the town doctor have in claiming a non-existent mafia role?" It's really a no brainer.

Hmm, what motivation does any pro-town role (or at least anti-scum) have to claim such a nonexistant role?

(Hint: not a nonzero number)

[Voidedmafia]

B.) Obv should elaborate on why my pressing and TML's pressihg of the same point are dissimilar.

TML wasn't sheeping Zang's every word like you have been.

Trying to clarify what zang was saying doesn't even come close to matching any definition of sheeping. I wasn't that suspicious of you at the time, anyways.

Plus, between the two of us i was the first to raise suspicions about the contradiction. Yes, it was while you and zabg were voing at it, but i was th first to point it out. 0/2.

[MrObvious]

Trying to clarify what zang was saying doesn't even come close to matching any definition of sheeping. I wasn't that suspicious of you at the time, anyways.
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You weren't sheeping votes, you were sheeping thoughts.

Plus, between the two of us i was the first to raise suspicions about the contradiction. Yes, it was while you and zabg were voing at it, but i was th first to point it out. 0/2.

No, your addition to the conversation was nothing more than your confirming what Zang had already said. 2/2

[MrObvious]

Hmm, what motivation does any pro-town role (or at least anti-scum) have to claim such a nonexistant role?

(Hint: not a nonzero number)

100%. It was obviously a fake claim that included a clue leading to my breadcrumb.