In post 691, Psyche wrote:Bitch, plz. (I'm so sorry for calling you that; it's not serious; just go with the roleplay; it'll be fun)
Let me 'pretty much summarize the basics of this case' as you seem to have a problem understanding it. I just made a wallpost - a fucking wallpost - laying out a case against you. And you have the nerve to say that there's barely anything around? Let me make this crystal clear.
I don't give a damn how crappy your ideas are. I've played a lot of games with very many very terrible very stupid players with very many very terrible very stupid ideas. I cannot even begin to relate to you just how frustrating these experiences have been, but I am inured. I am quite comfortable with the fact that townies can be terrible. But you aren't a townie. You are opportunistic, disingenuous "insta-frustrated" (quote tags for the 'yeah, right' effect) scum.
The fact that your reasons for voting slandaar are terrible aren't why I'm voting for you. Lots of terrible votes have happened, even in this game. I'm voting for you because you are scummy.
this block of text says nothing
In post 691, Psyche wrote:You jumped onto the Slandaar wagon for dubious reasons. It was a huge jump; you'd defended him just a couple posts beforehand. But there was a tide, and you saw a chance. Opportunism, not crap, is what attracts me to you. Who is attracted to crap? That's not evolutionarily adaptive at all. >.>
goodmorning is opportunistic
In post 691, Psyche wrote:And when confronted about this opportunism, your response has been sooo weak. It literally doesn't make sense. The principles of rationality are violated thoroughly. Why? Because you're looking for a way out but there isn't one. You can only avoid the gravity of the case by 1) avoiding the case with vague whatevertheheck674was 2) recharacterizing it to make it less threatening (post 679), and 3) AtE the hell out of everyone.
And now your AtE has been uncovered as fiction. A lie. The lie, itself, is another scumslip. You're producing bullshit to cover up bullshit.
and i didn't like how you responded to me earlier case
SO SORRY EXCELLENT CASE SO FAR SORRY FOR IGNORING IT
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 671, Psyche wrote:No, this still sucks. When a player does something you find suspicious, you always examine his supposed reason for doing it. Especially for proposing a massclaim. Because his supposed reasons for doing it are the ONLY way you can differentiate between town seriously thinking something is a good idea and scum trying to pull a fast one.
If you don't examine the justification, you are deliberately skipping a critical step in the whole scumhunting process. It doesn't make any sense.
What you're saying is also dubious. You are definitely voting Slandaar for theoretical reasons - because you think massclaiming is a bad idea, rather than because Slandaar has done something suspicious.
so goodmorning is scum for voting slandaar for pushing massclaim. okay.
In post 671, Psyche wrote:all you say about Slandaar in this post is that his theoretical argument is no good and announce that you want him dead.
oh this is saying the same thing. i guess reiteration is a good thing sometimes!
In post 671, Psyche wrote:Town suffering from a behavior =/= behavior being scummy.
That's the distinction between antitown and scummy. I'm sure you aren't ignorant of it. You are playing stupid and now backtracking from a terrible but opportunistic bandwagon.
oh... i guess... this still says the SAME FUCKING THING
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
@kwll - You should really read the thread for yourself, but for now you can pretend to be town and hammer GM.
I started the wagon based on PoE (mostly on recent activity in thread) and VCA of the Elleran lynch. Psyche later put together a full blown case, his summation of which is quoted below for your benefit.
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In post 715, Psyche wrote:
Let me do the summarization thing again, and then add a few more ideas. Should I do a bulleted list? I will do a bulleted list. Bitches love bulletted lists. HOW THE HECK DO I SPELL BULLETTED?
- Opportunism (as evinced by your scantily thought out reasons for wagoning Slandaar, specifically the way they concern play quality rather than play scumminess and explicitly refuse to consider presented justifications for play which is just plain irrational)
- Crappy Response to Censure (Let's be specific!)
General Theme: "You're looking for a way out but there isn't one." (tm)
1) avoiding the case with vague whatevertheheck674was
2) recharacterizing it to make it less threatening (post 679), and
3) AtE the hell out of everyone. BONUS: With lies! (PS: I'm fine with AtE, but this is more about contributing to the general theme above. Fight
the theme, not the AtE accusation!)
4) Completely failing to properly explain what actually sensical thoughts why you think/thought voting for Slandaar was reasonable from a townie perspective
- BONUS: With lies!
"I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
You know those times when you wish you could think of something really funny or interesting to say, but just can't?... Yep, this is one of those times.
Let me do the summarization thing again, and then add a few more ideas. Should I do a bulleted list? I will do a bulleted list. Bitches love bulletted lists. HOW THE HECK DO I SPELL BULLETTED?
- Opportunism (as evinced by your scantily thought out reasons for wagoning Slandaar, specifically the way they concern play quality rather than play scumminess and explicitly refuse to consider presented justifications for play which is just plain irrational)
- Crappy Response to Censure (Let's be specific!)
General Theme: "You're looking for a way out but there isn't one." (tm)
1) avoiding the case with vague whatevertheheck674was
2) recharacterizing it to make it less threatening (post 679), and
3) AtE the hell out of everyone. BONUS: With lies! (PS: I'm fine with AtE, but this is more about contributing to the general theme above. Fight
the theme, not the AtE accusation!)
4) Completely failing to properly explain what actually sensical thoughts why you think/thought voting for Slandaar was reasonable from a townie perspective
Because I've explained myself. You keep asking the questions that I've answered already. I'm not planning to repeat myself.
4 does look a bit different from things that have been said, though.
Why aren't you asking the other folks who saw fit to hop on that train?
OK, so you'd probably not get an answer from kthx or kwll. Why aren't you questioning DRK or Nacho on this? Slandaar accused DRK of opportunism and AtE, and Nacho gave less reason than I did. If my vote on Slandaar was really so opportunistic,
See the part where I explain why your vote screams opportunism.
(as evinced by your scantily thought out reasons for wagoning Slandaar, specifically the way they concern play quality rather than play scumminess and explicitly refuse to consider presented justifications for play which is just plain irrational)
These aren't present as far as I know in other players.
Please quote the post where you "explained yourself" in a way that addresses 1-4 convincingly.
In post 531, goodmorning wrote:DRK is probably one of my better Townreads ATM and Slandaar's argument on the massclaim is indeed bullshit (as I mentioned before).
What shall I do now? What shall I do?
I shall jump all over this wagon.
Vote: Slandaar
Even in this post what has DRK being a townread got to do with... anything?
It does not make me scum because I think someone she thinks is town is scum.
Hammer her, she doesn't need to claim because quickhammering has no deficit to town (her words)