In post 249, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 244, Tammy wrote:You say you read ny160b (which some at the end of the game said was underpowered anyway) and still say nacho is always scum?
I mean that's fine for an rvs vote, but 10 pages in?
wait you actually believe him when he says things like this?
In post 249, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 244, Tammy wrote:You say you read ny160b (which some at the end of the game said was underpowered anyway) and still say nacho is always scum?
I mean that's fine for an rvs vote, but 10 pages in?
wait you actually believe him when he says things like this?
No. That's why I called it a potential dumb tell that felt fake, and that it was a fine excuse for an rvs vote, but not 10 pages in. 
In post 224, Tammy wrote:In post 222, Johhog wrote:Elaborate.
Well hi! That was a fast catch. In the last two games we've played together where you've been town, you've felt really dynamic. Here you feel like your watching the party more than enjoying it. I'm only on page 3...4...do you get better?
In post 248, Wickedestjr wrote:
-The comment(s) that accompanied her penguin vote struck me as unusually confident (even if it was not serious). I'm not entirely sure why the town voting block idea felt scummy to me. Perhaps it relates to the fact that the suggestion makes the assumption that the other players mentioned are all town or at least demonstrates a lack of interest in determining their allignments (even if it was not serious).
-a.) She calls you obvtown but in the same post she gives herself room to change her mind. Note also that she wasn't even asked to give her read of you- I have no clue why she talked about you in post 50.
b.) IIRC, she asks CTD to reconsider his suspicion of her because Empire, the player CTD had voted, had nullread her. I don't see why that's a reason for CTD to reconsider. I also got the impression that Shadoweh is trying to make her meta defense look like an effort to discern CTD's allignment- that looked suspicious.
In post 239, Tammy wrote:So, that and his feeling like I did on konowa's first post makes me feel town, but ces can read him right? Am I on crack?
In post 245, Tammy wrote:Ces what's your read on crash text dummie?
In post 258, Shadoweh wrote:Empire didn't post a wall on me and now I don't feel special. Procrastination says fuck it and find other lynchable reads. Guess I'll check out Johhog, DeasVail, Konowa for weak scum. And I GUESS the main wagon even though I don't feel interested in him which is usually my subconscious telling me to sleep through reading town lynches.
In post 261, Tierce wrote:Please explain why you don't have a read on me. There is a pretty much universal Townread going about--what are your feelings on it?
Your reads feel fairly safe. Please come back with more.
Shadoweh wrote:1: The comment(s) that appeared too confident quote unquote is referring to everything I said about my dream team? I would have called the emotion unbridled optimism.
2: I'm quite sure all three of them are town. Just by posing the question I expect reactions that help determine that alignment.
3: Re: Tierce: Why would you need a reason to talk about Tierce? I vaguely recall someone mentioned her and reading her around that time though.
4: I'm not sure what you mean about the CTD thing. I didn't say he should reconsider. I asked why he hadn't mentioned the connecting opinions there. My meta defense is 100% sarcastic derision of someone voting me for Being Shadoweh. Kind of like being suspicious of me for wanting to make a voting block which I clearly haven't been voting with.
People are already started with the penguin who made a post that screams VOTES HERE PLEASE.
In post 261, Tierce wrote:1: Please explain why you don't have a read on me. There is a pretty much universal Townread going about--what are your feelings on it?
2: Your reads feel fairly safe. Please come back with more.
In post 67, DeasVail wrote:What do you mean?
I don't think I'm being anti-town, because I think looking back it should be clear where I was going with it.
In post 96, Llamarble wrote:Johhog is comfortable / assertive.
"Whoa why did you get a different impression from mine" is town because town expect others to agree with them whereas mafia realize they have a different perspective.
Lack of absolute contribution to the game. N-scum feels fairly detached from the game, while N-Town might be snarky, but is definitely willing to provide reads in a proactive manner and without going with the flow, which is what he's doing. The fact that he is apparently conscious he is doing this doesn't much alter this read, as he has played with a lot of the playerlist before as Town and scum and knows people know him. (i.e. admission of actual facts in his present participation or lack thereof doesn't really weigh his alignment one way or another, as he doesn't lose anything by doing so and gains "honesty" points.)In post 264, Wickedestjr wrote:Also, why is N probably scum?
What is this? N has seen me as Town and as scum, he has been my scumbuddy, and this is all he has to say about me so far. I ask him for reads, he gives an empty Nacho read and doesn't do anything else. It's hollow, doesn't have any meat, and doesn't feel like the Town-N-pissed-off-at-the-game in general that I know and love. THAT N is participative, throws his weight behind what he believes in, does stuff. This feels much closer to the lurkerscum N that occasionally snipes in with a pretense at weak commentary.In post 110, N wrote:Tierceflail
In post 243, N wrote:I can understand both the Llama and Johhog wagons, but I dunno - Nacho is always scum.
...In post 246, N wrote:I should have made that clearer: he's always scum in games with me.In post 244, Tammy wrote:You say you read ny160b (which some at the end of the game said was underpowered anyway) and still say nacho is always scum?In post 243, N wrote:I can understand both the Llama and Johhog wagons, but I dunno - Nacho is always scum.
I mean that's fine for an rvs vote, but 10 pages in?
In post 269, Tierce wrote:PEdit: I still have no frigging clue how to read Vi. Ask Empire.
In post 267, Tierce wrote:Back to N for a moment:
What is this? N has seen me as Town and as scum, he has been my scumbuddy, and this is all he has to say about me so far. I ask him for reads, he gives an empty Nacho read and doesn't do anything else. It's hollow, doesn't have any meat, and doesn't feel like the Town-N-pissed-off-at-the-game in general that I know and love. THAT N is participative, throws his weight behind what he believes in, does stuff. This feels much closer to the lurkerscum N that occasionally snipes in with a pretense at weak commentary.In post 110, N wrote:Tierceflail
Seriously, I have no clue. I wish I had. I am as clueless about Vi's scumplay as I was a year ago, and I still have bad memories of Chrono Trigger Resurrection. Open 463 was essentially us flailing around and hoping to cause as much damage as possible due to the playerlist. Ask Empire, I believe he has a better grasp on Vi.In post 271, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Mind you, I'm not talking about the quirky "emulating Glrok" type of anti-town; I'm talking "let's just push this mislynch hard". Given your hydraing with Vi as scum (with the quickhammer and everything), you must have some idea of how much of the latter Vi's scumplay has.In post 269, Tierce wrote:PEdit: I still have no frigging clue how to read Vi. Ask Empire.
I just did.In post 269, Tierce wrote:Vi, either you explain 'marblescum (and I agree this feels somewhat like the annoyed Llamarble-Town in Abarat, though that is an easy attitude to have as either alignment and doesn't hinder his play as scum/Town), or I'm out. N and Konowa are looking far worse than him.