Open Role 5: Switch Mafia. Over. - before 384

[IH]

Lowell.... did you reread when you came in? = D I can't remember your responses.

[spectrumvoid]

Hm... I'm back. I see we have gone nowhere. I'll will attempt to get it somewhere.

vote: Thok

[Lowell]

unvote, vote SV

for being drunk at the wheel.

FOS Romanus

for not voting scum.

IH- I'm not sure if I did that or not. I can go back and look and maybe give another post later.

[IH]

That would be nice = D

[Yosarian2]

VOTE COUNT

2 IH (klebian, SV)
3 Relyte (klebian, Romanus, IH)
2 Lowell (cardb0ardb0x, Romanus)
1 Klebian (Shadowlurker)
1 Shadowlurker (IH)
1 Spectrumvoid (Lowell)

Not voting: Relyte

SV, Thok's not in this game.

[IH]

unvote

Yos, my vote is on two different people. = D Now it shouldn't be on anyone.

[ShadowLurker]

Happy with my vote.

[Lowell]

I went back through to record my thoughts on everyone. Turns out that I already did. Sweet. (post 84)

All that craplogic I said still stands, excepting the part about romanus (he's been a little more active, and towny, since then).

Klebian, however, is useless.

It starts with his odd page 1 decry of "SK dead, we're kinda screwed" and doesn't get any better from there. He metagames and he comments about nothing and he generally behaves exactly how a good scum should behave in a game where IH is running around like a madman accusing everyone for no reason.

unvote, vote klebian

[Yosarian2]

Edit: Sheesh, sorry guys. This is confusing the heck out of even me here. I might have to just drop the pre-crash votes for the sake of simplicity.

UBER DOUBLE RE-CORRECTED VOTE COUNT

2 IH (klebian, SV)
2 Lowell (cardb0ardb0x, Romanus)
2 Klebian (Shadowlurker, Lowell)

[spectrumvoid]

Sorry, was suffering from a post-exam hangover I think...

I like that 'IH was running around everywhere running like a mad man bit.' My vote stays.

[Lowell]

So Romanus and Klebian are allowed to vote for, what, as many people as they want?

How do I get that power?

[klebian]

By being useless, of course.

[IH]

By being useless, of course.

........So are you being useless right now?

[Relyte]

Didn't the mod already say it was a mistake?

[Yosarian2]

Yes, vote count was a mistake. Should be right now.

Note: Kelly Chen will be replacing Conflux.

[Kelly Chen]

Hi all. I'll be reading this today.

[Yosarian2]

Jules will be replacing Brutal Assasin

[Kelly Chen]

Due to the crash it seems I'm in the dark on some things.

Here are some random thoughts by player.

IH: Like. In what posts remain, he sounds natural and comprehensible to me. I believe he's helping the town.

Relyte: I don't like Relyte much. I think IH's arguments (for instance 78 and 96) do show something weird about him.

I find a couple of Relyte's posts to be just awful, though maybe I'm missing some context. E.g. in 68:

I don't really care. It can't be fixed now.

You shouldn't use the crash as evidence against someone, because it's not as if the crash held game-winning evidence in it.

...and please don't misinterpret me. All I'm saying is, why are you so eager to bring back the pre-crash thread, when you won't even tell us the scummy thing you did.

Now don't misinterpret

you

again, I am not trying to incriminate you. I'm just wondering what it is you did, because honestly, if I can remember what I did and tell everyone what it was, you can too.

What!

and in 79:

IH just answer the question and then I'll shut up. I don't like missing pieces and you keep accusing me with it to try and get past the point I just want to know what it is.

Apparently IH ended up answering this question three different times and Relyte just didn't read those posts.

I didn't vote you until two people were on you? First off:

Who are you to say that I wasn't able to access my PC before the other two people so I couldn't voice my opinions before them.

Second: Are you implying I'm scum by hopping on the bandwagon? In this game that's not even close to majority. Three =/= Seven.

This complaint seems bizarre in a game of mafia.

I will and have openly admitted that I do FOS a lot, but seriously I don't see what's wrong with it. Someone isn't voteworthy so I give them a FOS.

Who and under what circumstances Relyte actually FOSd seems to be lost to me. But FOSing is something scum like to do in place of voting because it makes them look active without affecting the game state.

spectrumvoid and klebian: These two have defended Relyte. I find this rather suspicious, since I doubt Relyte's posts warrant it. There's crash material I can't read, but I still doubt this.

spectrumvoid argues that IH pushes a weak case against Relyte, but doesn't seem to comment much on it other than the FOS issue. Where, on that note, she deigned to FOS klebian after saying she "buys the case" for him. There must be an awfully high threshold for being willing to vote.

ShadowLurker: I'm not sure if I think he's town or not. He has been helpful sometimes. His side of the fight with IH seems plausible, but not helpful except in boosting his post count.

I was going to follow SL on klebian, but I get the impression there is some kind of OMGUS thing between them.

I didn't get a strong impression from other players, but glancing at a "view all by" of Romanus and Lowell, I like Romanus and am pretty eh on Lowell.

vote: Relyte

, I think it's good.

[spectrumvoid]

BA has been active elsewhere... weird. Hi Jules and Kelly!

I have a pretty high voting threshold, and other people like MBL have commented on it in many of my other games. I see FOSes as a nice tool to clearly show where I stand, ie, that I think a player has shown scumtells, and I generally vote only when I really want a lynch. I don't think I have enough scumtells and there hasn't been enough discussion to start pushing for a lynch.

I think your quotes are missing context. The first one happened in a squabble between IH and Relytye regarding how pages was the thread. IH was accusing Relyte of not posting much (I think.) The bizarre complaint was in response to IH accusing Relyte of wagoning. I think what is more noteworthy is the 3 =/= 7 bit.

Edit after preview: IH's case on Relyte now seems to hinge on the Relyte pushing IH for an answer bit. It's dinged on my scumdar, but I've seen townies do exactly the same thing.

[IH]

I think your quotes are missing context. The first one happened in a squabble between IH and Relytye regarding how pages was the thread. IH was accusing Relyte of not posting much (I think.) The bizarre complaint was in response to IH accusing Relyte of wagoning. I think what is more noteworthy is the 3 =/= 7 bit.

That was about how many FoS's Relyte's done. He defended it by saying the game was only 2 pages long I believe. That's how it degenerated into the argument that came about I believe.

...How many votes to a lynch, and does Relyte have any current votes on him than Kelly's. XD Sorry YoS, but your corrected vote counts and such confused the hell outta me.

[Yosarian2]

2 IH (klebian, spectrumvoid)
2 Lowell (cardb0ardb0x, Romanus)
2 Klebian (Shadowlurker, Lowell)
1 Relyte (Kelly)

There are 10 people alive, 6 votes for a lynch.

So yes, Kelly is the only vote on Relyte at the moment.

[Romanus]

I could have sworn that I did this already, but it has been a weird week. This is long overdue:

unvote

I'm all about pushing a Relyte wagon again

Vote: Relyte

[Lowell]

I'm getting strong townie vibes from Kelly.

I'll go with her gut for now,

unvote, vote relyte

[Relyte]

I didn't get a strong impression from other players, but glancing at a "view all by" of Romanus and Lowell, I like Romanus and am pretty eh on Lowell.

vote: Relyte

, I think it's good.

Funny how both of them suck up to you after the posts. And jump on the beginning of a bandwagon.

@Kelly: I will admit I missed those answers. I will admit, stuff pre-crash does matter. (Something I believe I said that got deleted in recent crash.)

My bizarre thing was bizarre, but that's what it was meant to be: Bizarre. It was an example. It obviously didn't happen, but he didn't have proof that, I hadn't gotten around to reading this thread before someone else while jumping on him.

As for the questions being answered. The first time he answered it, I missed it and thought I read everything pre-crash. The second time I acknowledged it. Then I didn't read the thread for 5 days. (Dates.) I must have forgotten.

I did contradict myself, I will also admit. Wanting the info. IH said, but I did say, I only wanted to know what it was.

Why you guys are trying to push scum on me because I didn't remember the exact number of pages left: I don't have a clue in hell.

I think it was because after that bandwagon thing, I said something along the lines of "Maybe you really did mean it" or something, and that we shouldn't jump on so quick for the statement, but I either voted you or FoSed you one or the other.

Also I do not mean that FoS's are suspicious, I just personally think it's strange to use only FoS's. I myself only use them if we're in a Lynch or Lose situation, or if I feel strong with my vote and don't want to change it.


Also I think I know where I'm getting this excess of FoS's from you, because you are in a few other games with me, and I was getting all those FoS's mixed together in my head I think...

There's your answer, already answered last page.

I'll answer the rest later.

IH can you point me in the direction of "the rest." I either missed it or you haven't posted it yet.

And I promise this time I'll read it. ^^;

[klebian]

I did contradict myself, I will also admit. Wanting the info. IH said, but I did say, I only wanted to know what it was.

Eh?

Oh, and, nothing got deleted in recent crashes, I believe.