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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:11 am

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is this your case?
In post 732, Slandaar wrote:DJ is good enough to know scum don't just nk mislynch fodder.


explained. i don't agree with "twitch as mislynch fodder".

slaan wrote:Twitch was clearly a mislynch waiting to happen.
Mafia therefore would never kill Twitch.


your opinion. given the soft vanilla claim i can concede that "mafia" would probably not kill twitch. still does not "guarantee" a vig. when i claimed that twitch might be a mafia kill i had forgotten about the soft claim.

slaan wrote:If DJ were town there is no way he would not know this; look at his posts hes an intelligent guy.

Therefore DJ is scum.

There is no other argument that needs to be made here.


i guess its a matter of opinion then. i am a pretty intelligent guy, and i don't think that anything i've said contradicts that.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:18 am

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In post 761, don_johnson wrote:i am still unclear on the logic. i found it pretty obvious that twitch was town. maybe even power.

In post 599, Kingmaker wrote:Sorry for absence. Too many classes, too little time.

Vote Count 1.15


Bacde: 1 (Twitch da Woof)
don_johnson: 1 (Revenus)
mozamis: 1 (don_johnson)
Revenus: 4 (Slandaar, Ztife, mozamis, Keybladewielder)
russianov: 1 (Limo)
Twitch da Woof: 3 (Bacde, Remembrance, don_johnson)
Ztife: 2 (Deltabacon, Mac)


Not Voting: russianov


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch and 7 votes to go to night.



Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-03-14 13:30:00)

I am going to let this sink in for everyone
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:39 am

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again, lack of context.

from what i can see, bacde and remembrance were trying to lynch a townie. dj was willing to compromise. it also lends to the fact that you voted rev and twitch all day yesterday. noone else. both of your suspects have flipped town.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:42 am

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Mac: care to explain why your vote is parked?
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 am

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In post 755, Limo wrote:You're retarded if you think I'm about to toss you my town reads.


assuming this is directed at me, I asked you for your scum reads, not town reads.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:57 am

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In post 767, don_johnson wrote:why would a vig target twitch? an "obvious soft vanilla claim"? an obvious townie? you make little sense.
there is no vig
. are you an sk? setting up your fakeclaim?

p-edit: what is ad hom?


bolded looks like a slip. Pr's soft vannila all the time so if he was killed by the mafia they probably though he was wifoming it

In post 773, Slandaar wrote:Dear Don Johnson

Recently I made a case against you, if you could PBP like you say you can do for any case Rem makes against you I would greatly appreciate your thoughts especially regarding why you think scum would ever nk twitch I would love to get inside your mind and understand why that would ever happen as this just seems insane to me my tiny little mind cannot comprehend it!

Hope to hear from you soon

Slandaar


Why put the post like a letter?

In post 775, don_johnson wrote:is this your case?
In post 732, Slandaar wrote:DJ is good enough to know scum don't just nk mislynch fodder.


explained. i don't agree with "twitch as mislynch fodder".

slaan wrote:Twitch was clearly a mislynch waiting to happen.
Mafia therefore would never kill Twitch.


your opinion. given the soft vanilla claim i can concede that "mafia" would probably not kill twitch. still does not "guarantee" a vig. when i claimed that twitch might be a mafia kill i had forgotten about the soft claim.

slaan wrote:If DJ were town there is no way he would not know this; look at his posts hes an intelligent guy.

Therefore DJ is scum.

There is no other argument that needs to be made here.


i guess its a matter of opinion then. i am a pretty intelligent guy, and i don't think that anything i've said contradicts that.


don't like slans case just on don 'being a intelligent guy'

to me, this strikes as don being a possible Sk and slandaar a mafioso

In post 776, Slandaar wrote:
In post 761, don_johnson wrote:i am still unclear on the logic. i found it pretty obvious that twitch was town. maybe even power.


twitch didn't seem to scummy to me. I could understand why some people wanted him lynched though.

In post 599, Kingmaker wrote:Sorry for absence. Too many classes, too little time.

Vote Count 1.15


Bacde: 1 (Twitch da Woof)
don_johnson: 1 (Revenus)
mozamis: 1 (don_johnson)
Revenus: 4 (Slandaar, Ztife, mozamis, Keybladewielder)
russianov: 1 (Limo)
Twitch da Woof: 3 (Bacde, Remembrance, don_johnson)
Ztife: 2 (Deltabacon, Mac)


Not Voting: russianov


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch and 7 votes to go to night.



Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-03-14 13:30:00)

I am going to let this sink in for everyone


what do you want to sink in?
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:59 am

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missed out a quote tag there :(
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:01 am

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UNVOTE: Limo I don't think he'll get lynched today :(
VOTE: Don JonsonVOTE:
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:02 am

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if that isn't opportunistic then I don't know what is.

don my vote is parked because I think you are scum, I've gave my reasons. Voting twitch "as a compromise" is weak especially when you have just admitted you believed he was town all along.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:04 am

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VOTE: Don Jonson

stupid messing up my tags
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:07 am

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In post 777, don_johnson wrote:again, lack of context.

Context:

DJ: VOTE TWITCH
Next Day
DJ: TWITCH WAS OBVTOWN!!!!!

If he was so obvtown there is no way you vote him; you do not compromise on people you think are obvtown (as town)

I don't think the context helped your cause.
In post 777, don_johnson wrote:
from what i can see, bacde and remembrance were trying to lynch a townie. dj was willing to compromise. it also lends to the fact that you voted rev and twitch all day yesterday. noone else. both of your suspects have flipped town.

OK I voted only town yesterday. So, what? you voted a lot of town yesterday; twitch, rev, moz probably more; bacde very very likely.

Were they trying to lynch town, or lynch someone they think is scum; do you really only see people trying to lynch townies when the person flips town? no, I don't think this is a town mentality.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:09 am

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wait what the hell was that declan post?

UNVOTE: DJ
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:44 am

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In post 786, Slandaar wrote:wait what the hell was that declan post?

UNVOTE: DJ


he said 'there is no vig' this is a slip for him being sk
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:02 am

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No its not.

You should vote me and make a case.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:12 am

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my twitch vote was a compromise. it was day 1. mac, you are trying to make static, what was a dynamic opinion. i was willing to lynch twitch if need be. at times he seemed content to let me defend him, but overall, in the large scope, i generally understood what he was saying and thought the arguments against him were poor.

super: again. CONTEXT!

i have not seen so many cherry pickers in one place in a very long time.

Slandaar wrote:
In post 777, don_johnson wrote:again, lack of context.

Context:

DJ: VOTE TWITCH
Next Day
DJ: TWITCH WAS OBVTOWN!!!!!

If he was so obvtown there is no way you vote him; you do not compromise on people you think are obvtown (as town)


no. you are ignoring the context of the vote. nowhere did i say that twitch was "obvtown all day long". and even if i did, it was day 1 and lynches often have to come through compromise. and like i have explained, twitch accepted my defense readily. it would be egotistical of me to think that twitch could simply "not be scum". not all mafia act scummy. going into night phase, twitch was not one of my suspects. so when someone comes out and says "hey look! twitch got vigged!" it makes me a bit suspicious.

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OK I voted only town yesterday. So, what? you voted a lot of town yesterday; twitch, rev, moz probably more; bacde very very likely.


bacde? really? what i get from this is that you agree that you voted two conftown and noone else. so if you are town, maybe your scumdar ain't what you think it is.

slaan wrote:Were they trying to lynch town, or lynch someone they think is scum; do you really only see people trying to lynch townies when the person flips town? no, I don't think this is a town mentality.


my point exactly. it works both ways. so you just nullified your own point. well done. "compromising" on a lynch is town mentality. it is clearly different than oppurtunistic wagon hopping. speaking of which... who the hell votes for an sk when there is apparently a vig soft claim on the table from another player? scum. thats who.

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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:15 am

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submit too soon.

mod: please prod the inactives


i have to get going to work and have a difficult next few days. it looks like the case against me is a laid out as its gonna get. so i will switch places with one of the inactives here and be
v/la until wednesday
. checking in, but can't devote time to my thoughts. please don't lynch til then. i would like time to look into a few things that i have not had a chance to reread.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:21 am

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In post 789, don_johnson wrote:vote:super


oh my god u suck DJ. That vig thing was a clear SK slip. This will reduce the number of kills in a night to 1. Your whole case on me is 'CONTEXT' please explain the context of saying 'there is no vig'

Twitch looked scummy to alot of people so I would have thought a vig may have shot him. You explicitly said that there was 'no vig' meaning that you know there is a SK and the only way you could know that is by being a rolecop or a SK with SKbeing more likely. END OF. Mafia are more likely to have rolecops and an SK would probably show as a vig?

Slandaar wrote:No its not.

You should vote me and make a case.


My scum read on you has reduced a bit if you're talking to me. DJ slipped. Well and truly.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:24 am

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No

He really didn't.

And considering you think he is an SK there would never be a reason for me to defend him.

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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:30 am

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In post 789, don_johnson wrote:
bacde? really? what i get from this is that you agree that you voted two conftown and noone else. so if you are town, maybe your scumdar ain't what you think it is.

Yes I agree because it is fact I am hardly going to disagree am I?

My scumdar is very good. Unfortunately I have one inherent weakness; VI's.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:35 am

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In post 792, Slandaar wrote:And considering you think he is an SK there would never be a reason for me to defend him.

Who do you think is right Declan?


Because you're slandaar. I just don't get you

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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:37 am

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Declan I have told you; you are wrong.

I clearly wouldn't lie so one of us is wrong.

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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:59 am

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In post 795, Slandaar wrote:I clearly wouldn't lie so one of us is wrong.


you might be lying if you're scum.

I'm right though. There's no point n arguing as you're not going to change my mind
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:03 am

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UNVOTE:

Declan why would Slan defend DJ if he was SK?
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:12 am

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In post 797, Mac wrote:UNVOTE:

Declan why would Slan defend DJ if he was SK?


because he's sland? I don't know but regardless of who defending him, he slipped
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:20 am

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that doesn't make sense

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