Mini 1429 - Hunt in the Dungeon - Game Over

[Deltabacon]

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Limo demonstrates a desire to shift the blame for potentially bad lynches onto others

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When you have time, please explain how this makes Limo scum.

I've worded that quite badly - I mean it as in he's happy to sheep developing wagons with a lot of pace, whilst looking around for ways to blame others and absolve himself of involvement in the case of it flipping town. Now, he knew DJ was going to flip scum (being scum himself), and so he put the question regarding towncred forward in there to try and slip through the net, allowing him to claim town points given the flip. He distanced himself from the decision and logical process of the wagon, and so I think he's crossed the line between Reckless Townie-ism and Opportunistic scum-play.

[Limo]

@Rem - I'm scum because of those few posts at the end of yesterday? If you seriously think that incriminates me, then you need a check-up. There will probably be no changing your mind if I said the buddying was obviously a joke and if I called your "town triangle" dumb, inherently flawed, and bullshit. With this, you're essentially just widening your horizon and not taking a strong stance - even though scum has flipped. Pretty not so townie, dude.

Delta's explanation is extremely lackluster. First, your perspective is not one that of town. Town doesn't make a case and start with well-poisoning words that obviously come from a subjective view. "...demonstrates a desire to shift the blame for potentially bad lynches onto others..." is one such instance. It's even harder to read if he pulls out nonunique reasoning like "potentially bad lynches" because there's always a "what if..." element to something. Second, not making an effort to scumhunt isn't alignment indicative.
Third, you quoting a post made by me where I'm voting KBW is supposed to...what? He posted a scummy post, and my reads changed.
Fourth, if you think my end of the day actions come from scum, you need to be doing one of two things: reread up on mafia theory if you're town, and stop being so scummy if you're scum. From a scum perspective, tell me why I'd say the things I did; why I'd ask if I'd get town cred, why I'd bus in the most awkward fashion in the world, and any other questions you may have. This isn't too much WIFOM as it is an application of Occam's Razor. Simplicity is best option - scum know this. That's why they won't draw themselves into the spotlight with ridiculousness and be under scrutiny. It's why ridiculousness is generally a town tell.

I'm also not understanding why Super is town. Reread his ISO and it's full of shit. Horrible offense, and a nice level of hyperdefensiveness.

Vote: Super

[Deltabacon]

>Makes a case on me, saying all my case on him is pretty superficial, to sum it up-
>Votes for Super, with Superficial reasoning.

Yeah no.

[Limo]

Yeah...yeah?
A majority of it is defending myself.

Awkward.

[Remembrance]

Well, well, welly, well, look at what we have here.

[Slandaar]

Look just trust me

KBW/Mac is most likely the scum

[Remembrance]

Okay

[Remembrance]

You sure though? That was a serious wifom post with faux outrage to boot.

[Superdeclan]

you should probably vote Limo if i understand your meaning. His reasoning on me is terrible and vague

@ limo, please quote EVERYWHERE where I have done what you said i did

bah, slandaar is town

Look just trust me

KBW/Mac is most likely the scum

Limo is scum but

UNVOTE: Limo
VOTE: KBW



I did not like his read on slandaar in the quote i've said a couple of times

[Mac]

I am not scum Slandaar. Get it out of your head.

[Limo]

Have a look through your own ISO, Super. Either you're bad at Mafia, or you're bad at mafia.

[Slandaar]

KBW could be scum or could just be a VI.

So much could-be scum. I reckon KBW is just a VI though.

Mac doing exactly what KBW has been doing;

Here is the facts when someone is new they are either new town or new scum they are not 'noob town or scum' the difference is actually huge.

Mac you are trying to say KBW is a VI here, FINE, why isn't he a SI (scum idiot)?

[Slandaar]

Like maybe my example isn't good enough; if someone is awful as town they are not going to be a god at playing scum they are just not are they? common sense.

So, to say you think someone is a VI not an SI there must be a differetial so what is it?

[Mac]

I don't know if KBW is village or scum. I get the feeling from him he's a bit of an idiot though: i called him a VI but he could be a scum idiot too.

[Slandaar]

So much could-be scum. I reckon KBW is just a VI though.

Does any one interpret this as;

I don't know if KBW is village or scum. I get the feeling from him he's a bit of an idiot though: i called him a VI but he could be a scum idiot too.

?

[Slandaar]

What do you think of my KBW case Mac? have you looked at the vote timing on Declan?

[Mac]

Yes I agree with your case. I voted him yesterday too, you know.

[Slandaar]

Did you? sorry I am blind can you show please

[Remembrance]

@Limo, why did you ignore Don and our interactions with him until the end of the day?

[Mac]

By yesterday, i mean day two.

[Remembrance]

It's not actually a triangle you know, I formed it because I wanted to see how the scum would react to it (using my strongest town reads as a base for the group). The scum reacted well, and affirmed that there was only town in it, when Don posted his post about me being a serial killer. He practically confirmed that there was no scum on it. And scum are the only people that could do that. I had no plans of inviting any one else on it. Bacde dying also provided a lot of information for us. I'm not so hot on Superdeclan joining either, I just planned to work with Slandaar from now on.

Anyway, I've noticed that my scum reads match up comparably with yours,

so we can start the next day off on the right foot.

Here is why I think you're scum, Limo. Do you see the problem?

[Superdeclan]

Either you're bad at Mafia, or you're bad at mafia.

This can be interpeted in two ways.

1. You think I'm town but I can't play
2. I'm bad as playing as mafia.

which is it?

I'm not so hot on Superdeclan joining either

slandaar wanted me in as I'm good as confirmed town in his eyes. I never really thought about it that way when I saw the flip but whatever

[Superdeclan]

Have a look through your own ISO, Super.

explicitly not answering my question. He'll say 'you're mafia so I wont answer your questions!' but he should just do it. He's lazy scum

[Slandaar]

By yesterday, i mean day two.

I don't see how that indicates you agree with my case

You agreed with it before I made it?

[Mac]

By yesterday, i mean day two.

I don't see how that indicates you agree with my case

You agreed with it before I made it?

No, I'm just pointing out your case wasn't the first one on KBW.