Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[Majiffy]

ffs mollie

answer my question. it's not hard.

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (L-6): SE-Asians
borkjerfkin (L-6): pirate mollie

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz, AngelusW, kuror0, Remembrance, borkjerfkin, Wisdom, buldermar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[buldermar]

Well for this game you'll have to ask mollie to provide specifics as I was not in it.

So you know that he usually does shit like this because mollie says so?

Hey, I was in that game too.

Lincolm claimed 1-Shot BP. Told us he fakeclaimed, then claimed Mass Roleblocker with no restrictions. He was actually a normal roleblocker.

Basically he can be like this. Don't judge him or us.

For now, knowing Wisdom's town and scum meta, this reminds me of Micro 86, his scum meta. He posted short answers very quickly and quickly built up a townread on himself. It's not nearly enough to incriminate him though, and I still want to believe that he is helping the town.
HD is probably misguided town. As we know we're town, HD has been tunneling on us and stating all the reasons why we're scum without even contemplating the possibility that we're actually town. He has been trying though: reminds me of what he did in Timeshift.

I don't think that's analogous to this game because here he fake-claimed a role that isn't a part of the setup. However, I'm glad that you shared this with me nonetheless.

[buldermar]

Mollie you still haven't answered my question about why you think buld is town. :/

hell no am I outing town meta on buldey. he will just update his game with it and he is super sneaky as scum. I gmed a game with him in it and his team won in a flawless victory.

but with this latest flurry of posts it solidifies my town read.

eta: lol @ buldey

you can whisper it in my ear?

[pirate mollie]

this is going to be an extremely aggravating game for me isn't it

also keep ignoring me that's nice.

I think, in retrospect, she's trying to call my initial vote on Asians "stupid or scummy [and I don't think you're stupid]" so I have to come back to that, cause I don't think it was either of those.

Let's start here because it's the crux of whatever the fuck is going through your head right now.

if you are town then putting a player at L1 at that point in the game when there are a ton of players who have not even checked in then it was stupid.

so far I have never known you to be stupid. I did it once and a special got lynched without ever getting a chance to claim. I didn't expect someone to hammer with out at least giving him a chance to claim (he didn't get one).

I can go with you having a moment of stupidity cos we all have them but nothing you have done since looks even remotely town.

[buldermar]

hd, would you feel better if I said it was a gut read at this point?

@HD No, I was referring to what mollie was saying about Lincolm being incompetent as town. With the blocking the freezing and stuff.

I am starting to think that you, bc and scummy borky are the only ones who actually read my posts

Sweetheart, I promise I'll read your posts from now on. How can I make it up to you?

WHERE IS MY FOOT MASSAGE

In Denmark xD

[buldermar]

Uhhh so a few notes;

1) I'm busy tonight. So... You shall not receive vote counts!
2) You might get them tomorrow morning before I go to work. Might.
3) Failing this, you will get them Wednesday.
4) Thursday night through Saturday night I will be indisposed and probably not even online.

Don't lynch anyone till I'm available, yeah? Haven't even typed up the night 1 flavor yet...

VOTE: Majiffy

[Wisdom]

lold

[buldermar]

So mollie, who is scum?

borky so far

Why is borky scum? I really don't see it. Is it activity related?

[buldermar]

Well for whoever cares the (unofficial) vote count looks like this:
SE-Asians (3) - I am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (1) - SE-Asians

and everyone else is not voting.

I unvoted SE fwiw.

[borkjerfkin]

if you are town then putting a player at L1 at that point in the game when there are a ton of players who have not even checked in then it was stupid.

I don't even remotely agree with this. If he's scum and he self hammers or whatever crap you claimed to be worried about then we just lynched fucking scum. I obviously didn't fucking hammer the guy.

Your last sentence looks like filler for a realization that your initial point was bad.

[Wisdom]

Well for whoever cares the (unofficial) vote count looks like this:
SE-Asians (3) - I am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (1) - SE-Asians

and everyone else is not voting.

I unvoted SE fwiw.

I know, read that again.

[buldermar]

re: meta

I am primarily a meta player so is wisdom. but it is certainly not the only tool I have in my bag.

buldey has played at tr and tell you the speed at which I am able to obtain reads off of players. see his sig? that is cos I got a scum read off of her second post. she is an extremely strong player and everyone was oh so convinced while I was giving myself a nervous breakdown cos I knew she was scum. the cop wouldn't view her. it was only I made nacho promise me that if I say she is scum and I wind up dead lynch/nk her. day rounds last 24 hours and on d1 I usually have at least 3/4 of the players sorted.

buldey just finished a game on another site where d1 lasts 12 hours. I have been the default n1 kill for over a year and a half. I usually can spot 3/4 of the scum team on d1 hence why I am always the n1 kill. you would think people would start sheeping my reads once I am dead but no, only amok or mantis will do that.

so now that we have cleared that up, I would like to emphasize

this

point:

I am primarily a meta player so is wisdom.

but it is certainly not the only tool I have in my bag

.

Darling, I really like your signature. How did you come up with that? ♥

[buldermar]

yeah you gonna just ignore me at this point? is that where we're at?

Ok I need to stop the angle from which I'm pushing Mollie

; her latest response indicates she doesn't understand the point I'm trying to make which makes that line of questioning worthless.

I think, in retrospect, she's trying to call my initial vote on Asians "stupid or scummy [and I don't think you're stupid]" so I have to come back to that, cause I don't think it was either of those.

It probably was a little dickish though. My entrance in general was. Sorry.

Anyway some people have town hardons for mollie right now -- why?; I can see some of the other common townreads (Wisdom, Bacde) as town but she's not pinging me either way as of yet.

Buld seems town to me from first glance once you get past the fact he's been catching up and has thus been out of sync thus far.

you gotta new angle for me there bud?

this is who we should be lynching:

VOTE: borky

mollie, I thought that post was quite sincere from borky. He was trying to convey a message that you seemed to miss and from what I read he simply concluded that it wouldn't yield any information regardless if you didn't understand the point he was attempting to make. What about his post do you dislike?

[buldermar]

Was that really necessary?

No it wasn't, I just couldn't help myself. I'll apologize for that one: sorry.

[borkjerfkin]

Fair enough.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie you still haven't answered my question about why you think buld is town. :/

hell no am I outing town meta on buldey. he will just update his game with it and he is super sneaky as scum. I gmed a game with him in it and his team won in a flawless victory.

but with this latest flurry of posts it solidifies my town read.

eta: lol @ buldey

you can whisper it in my ear?

no

[buldermar]

Well for whoever cares the (unofficial) vote count looks like this:
SE-Asians (3) - I am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (1) - SE-Asians

and everyone else is not voting.

I unvoted SE fwiw.

I know, read that again.

Oh, my bad.

[borkjerfkin]

Also, my feelings on Mollie as of now:

#449 reallyreallyreallyreally looks like conf-bias town.

Everything else re: me is obtuse and I don't like.

[pirate mollie]

So mollie, who is scum?

borky so far

Why is borky scum? I really don't see it. Is it activity related?

that and his posts are not coming from a town oriented POV. the initial fos was to get him engaged his reaction to pressure is to flail and I am not seeing town flail yet. if he can...I don't know scumhunt or something but so far all he is doing is trying to engage me with ridiculous questions that he doesn't even seem interested in the answers to, ask everyone why they have me as town. he isn't scumhunting at all.

if you are town then putting a player at L1 at that point in the game when there are a ton of players who have not even checked in then it was stupid.

I don't even remotely agree with this. If he's scum and he self hammers or whatever crap you claimed to be worried about then we just lynched fucking scum. I obviously didn't fucking hammer the guy.

Your last sentence looks like filler for a realization that your initial point was bad.

yes. yes of course. that is exactly it.

town reads:

wisdom - actively scumhunting
buldey - meta + recent flurry of posts come from a town POV
hd - actively scumhunting

leaning town:

bc - it was his reaction to my sarcastic post to rememory (that is your new name remembrance), the fact that it made him laugh is exactly how I expect town to act.

scummy:

borky - not scumhunting
mantis - thread avoidance is mantis's #1 scumtell do NOT let her get away with it.

[Remembrance]

VOTE: Mantis

Cool. I'll do that then.

[Wisdom]

^bad post

[Wisdom]

Why do you trust mollie's words so easily, "rememory"?

[Remembrance]

Negative reinforcement. Which is controlling behavior. Do not interfere with my scum hunting again. Thanks.

[Wisdom]

@mollie
Really? Thread avoidance? I bet she just doesn't have time to read 20 pages yet. Same goes for Nacho. If they post and THEN start avoiding the thread, then you will have a point. But not now.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Remembrance