Micro 151: Mafia in New-Newbie Land (Game over!)

[borkjerfkin]

Hey Mr e roll, all you ever do is ask questions and don't really provide analysis.

It's getting annoying. I also think it's a way to fake participation. Like hey I'll just keep asking questions to look like I'm helping but I'm not actually doing shit! I havent even given any opinions!

VOTE: Mr. E roll

(Shut your pie hole, Wisdom!)

Wisdom does this as well, and unlike Mr. E Roll, his questions/comments are pretty much pointless.

That being said, I don't like how Xegarus is essentially lurking at this point, so

VOTE: Xegarus

Quick post

I haven't posted in 20 hours and that makes me a lurker?
...
Stop grasping at straws.

I think other than the beetlejuice (and with a sample size of 1 I'm not going to worry about that too much) The tone here is off. I'm getting a "your reasons for calling me scummy are insufficient" rather than a "I can't believe I'm even having this conversation" vibe from this. I see scum subconsciously having the former attitude and town having the latter.

[mothrax]

@elvis: just saw your question.

Majiffy has not contributed to this game in the slightest and is super active lurkey. I'm not ok with that.

[Majiffy]

That's it? What are your thoughts on the Pala/CE exchange?

Unimportant.

Majiffy are you going to ignore all the questions I ask you?

Are you going to ask anything useful?

VOTE: Wisdom

Gut /

some of his stuff seems obtuse

That's just Wisdom.

Unvote, Vote: Majiffy

Do you commonly not wait for responses from players before jumping on their wagon?

Majiffy has not contributed to this game in the slightest and is super active lurkey. I'm not ok with that.

Do some homework and get back to me.

[Majiffy]

Actually, fuck it.

VOTE: mothrax

We can power lynch this now.

[Wisdom]

One reason?

[Majiffy]

Hopping on an RVS wagon, giving weak reasoning to make it "viable" when questioned on it.

[mothrax]

I don't particularly care about who else was voting for you when I did. I saw something scummy and jumped on it. Nice try thou sweetheart.

[mothrax]

Up to this point you had three posts, two of which were saying "I'll get to this later" and the third was calling someone town. Correct me if I'm wrong but the object of the game is scum hunting, right? If you aren't doing that I don't see much contribution going on. Loving the omgus tho.

[Wisdom]

Not seeing it, 'jiffy.

[Majiffy]

I don't particularly care about who else was voting for you when I did. I saw something scummy and jumped on it. Nice try thou sweetheart.

What did you see that was scummy between your last post where you asked me a question and the post where you voted me? Because I didn't post in that interim.

Nice try, sweetheart.

Up to this point you had three posts, two of which were saying "I'll get to this later" and the third was calling someone town. Correct me if I'm wrong but the object of the game is scum hunting, right? If you aren't doing that I don't see much contribution going on. Loving the omgus tho.

*A few people town, actually. And forming town blocs is a very powerful way to scumhunt... lrn2mafia.

Also, it isn't OMGUS if there's reasons.



This is scum freaking out because she just fucked with the wrong slot. Needs more lynching.

[mothrax]

Ummm. I called you out as soon as you "posted". Remember that? You just quoted it... I was satisfied with Palas responses and was ready to move on to my next scumspect.

Town hunting=lets tell the scum who to nk. Theory discussions aside and let's pretend I'm ok with that strategy for a moment. One sentence posts saying x is town =\= townhunting. Just saying.

As for me being intimidated or freaking out, please, I've put up with far worse. Bullying may be a valid tactic in your eyes but your going to have to try a lot harder to scare me. I've played with your type before. You aren't quality posters so you try to force your will through abrasive ness. I'm over it. Now, if your really town (big if) sit back, take a big breath and learn to play with the big boys. Tell me why you have your reads, do something other than make blanket statements without supporting them because that is in no way shape or form pro town.

[Majiffy]

There was actually a 13 minute period of time between my posting and you 'calling me out'. And as I said - do your homework. I've been very busy and not available the past five days or so.

Why is saying x is town =/= townhunting? You can't 'just saying' a claim that seems pretty obviously not the case. If I said I am hunting for white cars, and then say "x is a white car", looks pretty clearly like I'm hunting for white cars. Just saying.

Also lol @ calling me a not quality poster. I refer you to my earlier statement of do your homework.

[mothrax]

Quality of posting and personal attacks aside, a townspersons job is to not only find scum but convince the resto f the town that they are scum. Just saying x,x,x, and x are town so z must be scum isn't very convincing.

And I've done my homework. I know there wasn't much time but I was done questioning Pala, I had already established I wasn't satisfied with your play. It makes sense that I would head to the next player. I found you scummy from your third post. Thus, I voted for you. Now, you are posting and we are getting somewhere.

You are super overreacting to one vote but I'm ok with that because it means you are actually contributing, and it means I'm gonna get a clearer read. Two things can happen here: you can affirm my suspicions and dig yourself deeper, or you can change my mind and convince me you're town. Either way is good because it means I can either push harder for your lynch, or I can pack off and follow my next lead. It's a win win.

[borkjerfkin]

Scumreading Wisdom and Xegarus right now. Everyone else is town or null. Mothrax is very town. Elvis seems genuine.

Need more from CE in particular -- her townreads are parrots of what Majiffy said and that's not good.

[Wisdom]

mothrax is town.
Majiffy, find someone else to push because I'm not flowcharting you on this one.

[Majiffy]

Can't help but notice you're putting everything aside that you bring up first and I shut you down on.

POE is actually very powerful and therefore very convincing. I'm surprised someone with a 2010 join date doesn't know that.

Please explain

what

you found scummy from my third post. Because you haven't actually contributed anything of merit from that angle.

I wouldn't say I'm 'super over-reacting' at all. You put someone at L-2 on shady reasons, trying to turn an RVS wagon into a viable wagon. That's scummy as fuck, and downplaying it isn't helping.

[Majiffy]

Need more from CE in particular -- her townreads are parrots of what Majiffy said and that's not good.

I noticed that too.

[mothrax]

Like I said, active lurking, and a lack of reasoning for reads.

That person with the 2010 join date took an 18 month sebatical. Do your homework. You will notice my last completed game was Mafia Personality, run by Vi, quite some time ago.

And when I said personal attacks etc. asside, I meant that I was done going back and forth with you over stupid crap that didn't pertain to this game. I'm not pulling back from calling you scummy, I'm not pulling back from my original reasoning for doing so, but I'm not going to argue about how well you play the game, or whatever it may be about you personally that I find annoying, this isn't the time or the place and it just distracts from the game.

[Majiffy]

Except if you did your homework - how many times do I have to say this? - you'd know that I wasn't active lurking. I merely

wasn't available

.
Lack of reasoning for reads can have any number of town motivations or reasonings, so that isn't scummy either.

Try again.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Xegarus

[mothrax]

I believe we have different definitions of active lurking.

[Majiffy]

I believe your definition is probably not active lurking.

[Majiffy]

By the by, how does someone "active lurk" on page 3?

[mothrax]

Active lurking: posting without content, contribution. Things like "I will catch up on this later" etc.

Note: you came out to play when someone attacked you and you're playing a heck of a lot of defense. Who other than me is scummy? Do you have any other actual reads other than me being scummy for pushing you?

[Majiffy]

Active lurking: posting without content, contribution. Things like "I will catch up on this later" etc.

Active lurking = posting just enough to avoid prod dodges, playing under the radar.

Your definition is "busy posting". As in, "I'm currently too busy to give this the proper amount of attention at the moment". Which isn't a tell either way.

Note: you came out to play when someone attacked you and you're playing a heck of a lot of defense.

Coincidence*, and you're the only one interacting with me, so of course I'm "playing a heck of a lot of defense". What did you expect?

*do your homework?

Who other than me is scummy? Do you have any other actual reads other than me being scummy for pushing you?

Yeah I have a few town reads. And it's not that you're scummy

for

pushing me, it's

why

you're pushing me that makes you scummy.