NY 163: Void Mountain of the Nightless Temple (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

More time for what? Schizophrenic hydra disagreements?

[Zdenek]

To post things, so that I can get a stronger read on them.

[DrippingGoofball]

They posted up a storm just now, that's not enough?

[Zdenek]

Nope

[Zdenek]

TUA, can you explain why you thought that OtterHorse was being stupid.

[Zdenek]

These are my town reads:
ArcAngel
Titan
HD
Ms. Marangal.
Klick

These people are null-weak town.
Bulbazak
Robocoptor
RachMarie

[RachMarie]

@ DGB
I know you are pushing them as scum, but as I and Jennifer posted, the WAY they are posting and contradicting each other is definitely an issue they need to work on it is causing a LOT of issues here and will continue to do so in any other games they play. Get it together boys the QT is the place for that stuff... not the thread. Trying to read you guys is giving me a monumental headache... Also I think you mean MPD not schizophrenia there ...

[Zdenek]

Rach, is Jennifer scum?

[Ms Marangal]

I'm not exactly fond of DGB. there's something about her that I don't like

I'm liking Angel though

[Zdenek]

DGB is scum because Reek was scum.

[Ms Marangal]

that works fine I guess, though my read on DGB is stronger then what I had on Reek

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB is scum because Reek was scum.

Feel free to vote for me then.

[RachMarie]

@ Z dude and MM

Do you feel your read on DGB as scum is stronger than your read on the peeps you are voting for, if so why have you not voted for her?

[Zdenek]

Rach, is Jennifer scum?

[RachMarie]

oh yeah and I still need to take a look at Jennifer and predecessor to answer your question Z I have been more focused on a few of the other players for now since deadline is getting close.

Like TUA for example.

[Zdenek]

@ Z dude and MM

Do you feel your read on DGB as scum is stronger than your read on the peeps you are voting for, if so why have you not voted for her?

Nope, to your first question.

[RachMarie]

LOL I was typing that and posting it just as you posted your repeat too funny...

[RachMarie]

thanks for answering Z

[Bulbazak]

A couple of notes on pages 24-25 (since they're the same):

AA9 is being incredibly OMGUSy. The RVS accusation from UA had long since passed. There was no need to dwell on it. A whole lot of overreactions, which seems to be how you play. Makes you come off as childish. It might be beneficial to chill out and realize that if people suspect you or correct you, it's not personal. It's just how the game is played. (Overreaction coming in 3...2...1...)

KBW vote switches are bad. The UA one was definitely opportunistic. The DG one was OMGUS. I think I agree with Otter here, regardless of KBW's alignment, she's anti-town and needs to be lynched.

Moving on to page 26.

[Ms Marangal]

No, I don't think DBG is scummier then Lurker, in fact I'm thinking that they are probable scum buddies so, either way, my vote is sitting on scum.

[Bulbazak]

Page 26:

Not liking Lurker so far. Getting very strong scum vibes from him. This post, especially, screams scum:

I'm not fond of the lurker right now. Might be residue from my feelings of TAM, though his opening post rubs me the wrong way.

Why are you getting any feelings from TAM? Judging from his posts, he was obviously too busy to even play, rendering the whole thing null, maybe a few defenses here and there before he replaced out. It seems more like an unrelenting tunnel than something you've actually thought about. You should probably join one of the main two wagons instead of playing obtuse and continuing a rather unbased line of voting.

Few things: 1.) TAM's posts WERE scummy. He kept making excuses for why he couldn't read, none of which felt genuine. Yet there are several posts that show he was keeping up. What this tells me was that he had no desire to scumhunt, which is scummy. 2.) We actually knew why we were voting TAM. It wasn't something we all just randomly decided to do at one point. 3.) The last sentence can be summarized as "You should stop paying attention to me and join one of the more popular wagons." The end of the sentence attempts to further discredit MM and her reasons for being on his wagon.

Yeah, that slot is scum.

Page 27:

What was I supposed to do, call you and BT scum? I wanted to delay the lynch as long as possible until most players have read my (painstakingly) written #447, which unfortunately you denounced as "scummy", before judging and making the decision to lynch me afterwards.

Yeah, I may have been wrong when I said the entire post was scummy. However, the entire point of that post was to pacify me and dismiss the scumtells I identified, without ever addressing them. So while the post may have been well reasoned and not scummy in and of itself, it's purpose was scummy in that it was to deflect focus away from the previous posts, which were scummy.

Regarding the "reads", although I cannot deny the ones which was posted were manufactured and not really done with the sole intention of helping the town, do note that there are two heads in this hydra, with two different playstyles, and I appeal to you to create a solid read holistically by combining the reads of both heads together, and not just tunneling on a single "scumtell" from one head of what could have been a playstyle quirk.

So now I shouldn't think you're scum, because you're a hydra?

Question for you, bulbazak. Why would you think that I would want to buddy up to you, of all players in this game? I do not deny the "buddying", and in fact I'm glad you noticed it, but there's no scum motivation if I wanted to buddy you for malicious reasons.

As you said, you felt we had similar posting styles, and that you could therefore reason with me, or in this case, talk me down. I was essentially the main proponent of your wagon. By buddying up to me, you were trying to diffuse your wagon without having to deal with the case being presented. It was self preservation, plain and simple.

On to page 28.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey guys

Since you seem to be too wimpy to lynch anybody, just lynch me and put me out of my misery.

I'm a vanilla townie.

VOTE: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Boo hoo hoo

I want to give Mastin-hydra a little more time

And you know Mastin-hydra will disappear and lurk again and you'll lose focus, spin on your own heels and lynch a townie.

Let that townie be me and let's do it quickly.

[Titan]

What is that I feel?

Hmmm...

Oh I know déjà vous of scum dgb and how she behaved after replacing into mafia stuck.

Push for the lynch you want while ridiculing the town for wanting to be more sure about reads? Check!
Vote for yourself when someone has a scum read of you? Check!
Claim that town is too inept to do anything so might as well lynch you? Check!

Didn't make me think you were town there, doesn't make me think you're town here.

[Voidedmafia]

Antilles, keybladewielder, and Robocopter have been prodded.