Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[I Am Innocent]

Just realized that post by Asians that I quoted was #666, if that ain't a sign, I don't know what is!

SE-Asians (L-3): I Am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer, kuror0
I Am Innocent (L-6): Wisdom
buldermar (L-6): SE-Asians
borkjerfkin (L-6): pirate mollie
Bacde (L-6): Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz

Not Voting: Remembrance, AngelusW, borkjerfkin, buldermar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[I Am Innocent]

Btw if we're going through with this... Do we still random lynch or

just no lynch everytime

?

Holy friggin crap? Wisdom still think this slot is town????

[Wisdom]

Wisdom does not think that slot is town.

[I Am Innocent]

Why did you unvote here?

Because Wisdom actually made a decent point about the fakeclaim and I wanted to look into Mollie some more.

Can you quote me the post with the decent point? (I put this in a separate post since I know you don't like post by post analysis...)

[I Am Innocent]

Borky, because he's competent, and just because he has read me as town does not mean Scum won't point out townie things town do. I've done it.

Can you elaborate on this?

Why is not having scum reads indicative of a scum alignment? To me it's mostly quite the opposite. As scum you really want to avoid getting locked into too many town reads early on, don't you?

Scared to ruffle other's feathers is what I usually see from most timid scum.

Question: You think I'm scum right? But you just pointed this out. Are you ignoring evidence?

How about you stop trying to be cute and just say what it is you think I am ignoring.

I will admit that his "I want to last till D5" is a bit weird given this context

Has there been anything worse in this game to go on then? If so, please list it. If not, why do you refuse to vote Asians when you seem to think this slot may be scum and this is the scummiest thing to go on?

and hurt the town the least (claimed N5 power)

You should not underestimate N5 PRs. They might turn out to be as helpful for the town as the N1 ones. In the last Diffusion game most PRs were N5 PRs and they managed to form a auto-town win plan on D4 that utilized them. So don't go around saying that N5 PRs are useless and it's better if we lynch them than others.

Wait, I thought earlier you said you didn't want to vote scum Remembrance because he claimed a N1 PR. Now you are saying later PRs are just as effective....which is it:

As to why I unvoted you; I'm not lynching a N1 PR.

Yes I did put an effort to save him when people were using the claim to peg him as scum. But other than that, it's not like I want to protect him from a lynch.

Just 50 posts earlier:

Nobody will be wondering about the VT claim, it was obvious sarcasm/frustration. Whoever still doubts that can die.

also kuror I have been one of the top posters and certainly the biggest **** stirrer how do you not have a read on my slot

To be fair, I am having trouble reading you too.

This just in: I'm probably going to choke AngelusW to death next time I see him.

Get Thor please. The original reason I signed up.

VOTE: I am Innocent

Makes you feel like more of man now, doesn't it?

Wisdom does not think that slot is town.

Then vote it.

AND......ALL.....CAUGHT....UP!!!!!!!

[Wisdom]

No, you're a better lynch.

[I Am Innocent]

Stealing from the Mod:

Lean Town 1. Nachomamma8
Scum 2. Remembrance
Lean Town 3. mantisdreamz
Town 4. buldermar
Lean Scum 5. borkjerfkin
Lean Town 6. pirate mollie
Town 7. I Am Innocent
Null 8. AngelusW
Scum 9. SE-Asians (Lincolm + SorasAdvent + thenewearth Hydra)
Lean Town 10. Bacde
Town 11. Human Destroyer
Lean Town 12. Wisdom
Lean Town 13. kuror0

[I Am Innocent]

No, you're a better lynch.

Please answer the questions in the 4th section down in post 329

(actually please answer all my questions as they are all important)

[I Am Innocent]

Oh for future days, I suggest only cops claiming as per my response to scum Asians liking the docs claiming. Keeps the pool of unknowns larger for the scum.

What do you say that mr wise one?

[Wisdom]

Do you realise we just claim PR? What cops are you talking about?

[Remembrance]

Response to the two questions.
1. I am stating that revealing who is town or siding with town is something that scum do to demonstrate they're contributing to discussion. These arguments for why a player are town has elevated Borky into town territory, but notice where I sit. Apparently, some think I am scum, even though Borky has pointed out the town things I do. He's not actively contributing outside of making himself look town and asking people what they think of him.
2. Sure, I too was confused on the set up and demonstrated this by voting Wisdom. Yet, you ignored this and "didn't buy it," while pointing out your town perspective, yet refusing to think other town would share this perspective and thinking I am scum. But I don't mind, facts don't change just because people want them to: I'm town this game.

Pedit: Roger Ebert died.

[Wisdom]

Remembrance is town this game. Fact.

[Fate]

why the hell does Iaminnocent have to be town
I just want

to lynch it

[Fate]

I'll go for that asians guy based on the quote

Vote: SE-Asians

Saved me 40 pages thanks

[Remembrance]

VOTE: Fate
That was hard.

1. What do you think of your predecessor's play, don't iso him, just give your general impression.

[Remembrance]

I'll be frank. I think Se-Asian's is mislynch bait. Everyone is okay with voting him and I am tempted to as well. But that means scum are okay with his lynch too. EVERYONE is okay with Se. Ergo, scum are okay with his lynch. Scum do not play that way because it's intentionally suspicious, the arguing about and wanting to have the Doc's claim was not something scum would do because it's idiotic and suspicious to do so. Yes, I am going for the "too incompetent to be scum" argument. Why vote Buldermar? Why discuss it amongst the hydras if he wasn't town. Ultimately, he will probably be lynched anyway, I will follow tomorrow if he flips scum. But them's the breaks of having an opinion.

[kuror0]

I'll go for that asians guy based on the quote

Vote: SE-Asians

Saved me 40 pages thanks

So you replace and will just sheep the first bw you see to avoid any reading? You won't develop any read by your own or what's the idea behind this?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Fate

[Human Destroyer]

Remembrance is town this game. Fact.

No he isnt

[Wisdom]

I was mocking him, but I do think he's probably town.

[Human Destroyer]

But I'm pretty sure he isnt

[Human Destroyer]

Also wisdom you need to stop chainsaw defending your scumspects

I know you do it as town but its still weird as shit

[Wisdom]

How do you feel about Fate?

[Human Destroyer]

Bacde was town

Pushing Fate for not reading (?) is silly, I've seen him not read and vote as town.

[Nachomamma8]

Because the scum team is SE-A/Rem/IaI

i have a feeling that all three of these are wrong

Nacho: Null. Oh, boy. I have some real hard time deciding what to believe about nacho and have decided that I can't put him anywhere but null until more info has been provided. His plan is good but due to his previous game in the same format got me thinking a lot. First option is that Town-Nacho want to use the same plan that defeated him to win this game which is why he suggested it and etc. The second option is that maybe Scum-Nacho somewhere along his previous game, noticed there was a chance to break this strategy but it may have been too late in the game, so this time he can suggest the plan to get some easy towncred and try out a gambit to break the strategy. I may be being too paranoid but he claiming a N1 PR really got me nervous. So for now I will have Nacho sit here on my null space.

kuror0 is 100% legitimate town

Nacho get in here and talk sense to me. After you take your vote off and re-assess the game with me being town ofc

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