Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

PeregrineV (1): wind-up
wind-up (1): Slandaar
Not voting (5): Jal, penguin_alien, PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, Allyra

With

7

alive, it takes

4

players to lynch.

Day 6 ends in (expired on 2013-04-06 19:00:00).

[Allyra]

i also have a hard time swallowing edosurist as a scum partner giving tml a town read because he's playing differently than how he did as a mason and thinking he'd play as scum as he did as mason.

[PeregrineV]

OK, now Arc.

[PeregrineV]

I'm big time leaning PV here and this big delay of everything isn't making me feel any better. I've seen him do this as scum twice before. I think he loses steam towards the end.

Interesting. What games did you see me "lose steam as scum"?

[PeregrineV]

Did Arc ISO. Looks town to me.

Did Jal ISO again. Looks town, althoguh there is a weird emphasis on hunting for bluescum.

[PeregrineV]

Also, I remember now another reason I had a strong Jal townread. His predecessor HeatherA.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[PeregrineV]

PV reads town because he challenged me too much

Scum don't do that like ever once I take over the town because they don't want to encourage me to lynch them they want to leave me on my path.

Lynch Windup.

Since we're lynching bluescum today, and you've dismissed my argument about why windup isn't scum, then respond to 3424. It looks like what I was trying to say, but apparently communicates it better.

[Jal]

I was specifically thinking of Open 410 and the recent First Time Mafia. In the former you didn't put up much of a fight prior to going V/LA, and chose rather to argue with me a little. First Time Mafia I can't even remember you towards the second last day (your quick lynch the last day doesn't count).

Slandaar, your logic doesn't make sense with whom you're targeting.

[PeregrineV]

I was specifically thinking of Open 410 and the recent First Time Mafia. In the former you didn't put up much of a fight prior to going V/LA, and chose rather to argue with me a little. First Time Mafia I can't even remember you towards the second last day (your quick lynch the last day doesn't count).

Slandaar, your logic doesn't make sense with whom you're targeting.

This is a little off-topic, but Open 410 I replaced into a scum role, and when we were 4:2 had to bus my teammate drmyshotgun because he was so scummy. I then had to claw my way to the end with pretty much 5 confirmed town. I pretty much felt that was a hopeless game, and I admit to not trying to hard, since I was the obvious lynch choice.

First Time mafia was similar. Partners dead day1 and day2, killed blocked night2, surrounded by 6 confirmed/confirmable town. Not sure what my strategy could have been. Any protestation of my lynch would be suicidal, since as town I would be happy to take one for the team, and we'd still have 3 mislnches left (or something to that effect).

But, tl;dr, not relevant here.

[Jal]

410: You replaced into a scum slot midway through D1 and you and drmyshotgun weren't suspect. It was me vs Lastsurvivor so that whole thing doesn't matter much, and you weren't the obvious vote in our LYLO. In our three person LYLO, the other guy had me as his main scum read as did you, but he remarkably changed his read later on the last day.

But look at both scenarios. You were the last one left. In this scenario you'd be the last one left and there's a good possibility of your lynch. How wouldn't they be relevant? These scenarios are the same.

[Slandaar]

Less than 2 days

You all need to vote. I have shown you Wind is blue; do what you want.

[Jal]

I'm not seeing blue scum wind-up in that.

[StrangerCoug]

Only a day and a third left, people.

[Jal]

VOTE: PV

[PeregrineV]

410: You replaced into a scum slot midway through D1 and you and drmyshotgun weren't suspect. It was me vs Lastsurvivor so that whole thing doesn't matter much, and you weren't the obvious vote in our LYLO. In our three person LYLO, the other guy had me as his main scum read as did you, but he remarkably changed his read later on the last day.

But look at both scenarios. You were the last one left. In this scenario you'd be the last one left and there's a good possibility of your lynch. How wouldn't they be relevant? These scenarios are the same.

In both I was 1 scum in 5 or 1 scum in 6.

Here I'm 1 in 4 town with 3 scum left. Big difference.

[PeregrineV]

i know it's been asked before but i don't think it got answered or at least satisfactorily.

if wind-up is blue scum, how did he not get hammered yesterday?

VOTE COUNT

DeasVail

(2): PeregrineV,

Allyra

mcqueen

(5): Slandaar, penguin_alien,

Lurker

,

mcqueen

,

Darthe

Not voting (3): ArcAngel9,

DeasVail

, Jal

With

10

alive, it takes

6

players to lynch.[/color]

To accept that wind up is bluescum, we have to accept that when red scum came back in Post 3038 he opted not to hammer someone else to save himself and that neither of his other partners which would have to be peregrine, jal, or arcangel did either. I have no idea why deasvail didn't hammer, which he should have if wind-up is not red scum. The only explanation I can think of is that they wanted blue scum alive for the other night kill, but that doesn't make sense if they were just willing to sacrifice their bp. It just makes more sense to me if windup is either redscum or town.

am i missing something?

If redscum doesn't know he's bluescum, then they might not want to take the chance of lynching town. Although that makes little sense also, redscum probably plans to shoot thier way to the finish instead of relying on mislynches.

[penguin_alien]

PeregrineV, who do you think is blue scum? Because I don't see where you think anyone else is.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV, who do you think is blue scum? Because I don't see where you think anyone else is.

It pretty much has to be between you and wind-up, with an outside chance at it being Jal, Slandaar, Arc. But, I think Slandaar is most likely redscum or (outside chance), town. But if he's town then I'm wrong somewhere else.

Yes, this is mostly PoE, but since I've posted my reasons for all reads and how they came about, it can be easily found in my ISO.

Vote: wind-up

[wind-up]

Peregrine gives in. Thanks for playing!

[wind-up]

PV reads town because he challenged me too much

Scum don't do that like ever once I take over the town because they don't want to encourage me to lynch them they want to leave me on my path.

Lynch Windup.

Since we're lynching bluescum today, and you've dismissed my argument about why windup isn't scum, then respond to 3424. It looks like what I was trying to say, but apparently communicates it better.

You know, casually reversing his read within 11 posts.

[Allyra]

VOTE: pv

[Allyra]

i know it's been asked before but i don't think it got answered or at least satisfactorily.

if wind-up is blue scum, how did he not get hammered yesterday?

VOTE COUNT

DeasVail

(2): PeregrineV,

Allyra

mcqueen

(5): Slandaar, penguin_alien,

Lurker

,

mcqueen

,

Darthe

Not voting (3): ArcAngel9,

DeasVail

, Jal

With

10

alive, it takes

6

players to lynch.[/color]

To accept that wind up is bluescum, we have to accept that when red scum came back in Post 3038 he opted not to hammer someone else to save himself and that neither of his other partners which would have to be peregrine, jal, or arcangel did either. I have no idea why deasvail didn't hammer, which he should have if wind-up is not red scum. The only explanation I can think of is that they wanted blue scum alive for the other night kill, but that doesn't make sense if they were just willing to sacrifice their bp. It just makes more sense to me if windup is either redscum or town.

am i missing something?

If redscum doesn't know he's bluescum, then they might not want to take the chance of lynching town. Although that makes little sense also, redscum probably plans to shoot thier way to the finish instead of relying on mislynches.

So, they decided instead of taking a mislynch or a lynch on blue to take a lynch on one of their own?

[ArcAngel9]

i am really really done with this game.. I don't know why we are not going behind the obvious red scum
lets hope this is worth it...
VOTE: PV

That's right, this is the game Hammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Keeping my figures crossed.

[Jal]

If PV is not scum then I just hate my life.

[wind-up]

I think PV is very likely to be scum after his complete change in read.