Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[Remembrance]

I'll Iso him and think about it.

Requestiong Prod of IaI

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Human Destroyer, kuror0
Nachomamma8 (L-6): pirate mollie
Wisdom (L-4): borkjerfkin, Fate, Nachomamma8
Fate (L-4): mantisdreamz, Remembrance, SE-Asians

Not Voting: RachMarie, Wisdom, buldermar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[Nachomamma8]

And while you're thinking, you can take care of that other question

[I Am Innocent]

Bork, what are your current reads on Remembrance and Asians?

3. Se-Asians, I think is mislynch bait and I want to interview him when he gets on to demonstrate he is probably town. I have already taken a stance on this, but I will see what comes of it.

Interesting that you want to interview him, yet you already seem to know the outcome of the interview "demonstrate he is probably town". Is the interview for your benefit, or their benefit?

Then why did he follow bulder's and didn't insist on his own?

Fair question. I don't think Nacho realized how good his plan was.

Or am I misunderstanding the second part? I'm pretty much starved on scum reads. Hopefully I will be able to get something juicy from SE.

Why would this be your hope if 32 posts earlier you say "I want to interview him when he gets on to demonstrate he is probably town"?

The flaw of Nacho's plan is when the scums claim as cop. When you know this, this is safe play. The flaw of Buldermar's plan is when the there is only 1 town PR or no town PR. This is totally random.

Now you know it.

Not saying I agree with you, but why in the world would town-Asians tell scum what the safe play is? Who are you trying to help?

Additional question, when you're done answering that one. I asked a fairly difficult question to Bork, about his reads on Kuror, Bacde, and Nacho. He responded in two minutes, it takes me about 4 to make up stuff as scum. Does this affect your position on Bork in anyway?

Really?

I'll Iso him and think about it.

Requestiong Prod of IaI

Chill out, I'm here.

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@Mollie, you feel so certain about Nacho that you are willing to risk a N1 power role? Who is your next best suspect?

@Rach/Wisdom/buld, everyone has N1 claimed and now chimed in, time to vote.

[I Am Innocent]

@Asians, what are your reads on Remembrance and Bork (want this from all 3 heads)?

[Remembrance]

I noticed it, but it's such an obvious agenda playing. He can't possibly believe it is going to work. Aren't scum more subtle about this kinda stuff?

How could Wisdom go about discrediting me in a subtler way?

Because he isn't doing anything.

Isn't it a bit late to be voting someone for being lazy?

1. For example, like Mollie. She has super secret personal tells for town and scum you right? "he hasn't dropped that tell" leads to instant suspicion, if people buy into the ethos reputation that she has worked on building. She brings in her reputation, mentions other successes in other forums, where she always gets lynched day 1 for being such a threat to scum. If you buy it, this lends credence to the idea that you might be scum.
2. Never too late, it often brings them out of their laziness.
a. There are two aspects to this game type for town IMO. Night game and day game. We want to correctly lynch scum in the day, and investigate or protect the right people at night. If Fate continues playing as he has played, he is not contributing to the day game. Similarly, like you said, can investigate Wisdom at night, so why kill someone who might be actively contributing over someone who only has worth as a power role so far?

[borkjerfkin]

Remembrance is town.

SE-Asians I still lean scum on for pretty much universally anti-town play. Other than that I can't tell wtf he's (they're?) even saying and tend not to read his posts.

[Remembrance]

1. I don't know the result, but I think the question force Se-Asians to reveal alignment information. He might be scum, but I don't think he is. If it reveals he is town that is equally juicy as revealing he is scum.

[borkjerfkin]

It's possible I should be reading SE-Asians as null. I want to policy lynch the slot eventually I guess.

[Remembrance]

I think it will demonstrate he is town, because I think he is town. It might reveal the opposite, in which case, that is equally good for town. The point being, I want to bring in some definitive results.

[Wisdom]

If Nacho continues like this I might consider lynching him despite his claim.

Why the hell are you voting me again?

[Nachomamma8]

For example, like Mollie. She has super secret personal tells for town and scum you right? "he hasn't dropped that tell" leads to instant suspicion, if people buy into the ethos reputation that she has worked on building. She brings in her reputation, mentions other successes in other forums, where she always gets lynched day 1 for being such a threat to scum. If you buy it, this lends credence to the idea that you might be scum.

But this is something Wisdom distinctly cannot do.

Never too late, it often brings them out of their laziness.

It won't bring Fate out of his laziness because it is a wasted vote.

a. There are two aspects to this game type for town IMO. Night game and day game. We want to correctly lynch scum in the day, and investigate or protect the right people at night. If Fate continues playing as he has played, he is not contributing to the day game. Similarly, like you said, can investigate Wisdom at night, so why kill someone who might be actively contributing over someone who only has worth as a power role so far?

So you think that we should policy lynch, then?

[Wisdom]

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

[Nachomamma8]

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

Also,

VOTE: Fate,

since deadline approaches and we've still seen nothing that resembles content.

are you fucking kidding me
the best you can come up with this entire game is a lurker vote??

[Remembrance]

Why does everyone always say, "policy lynch" I want to pressure him. I've meta'd Fate, he usually brings more to the table.

[Remembrance]

How often does town you do that Nacho?

[Remembrance]

@#post1287.

[Wisdom]

The only better thing I can do is vote you.

[Wisdom]

(@Nacho)

[Nachomamma8]

Why does everyone always say, "policy lynch" I want to pressure him. I've meta'd Fate, he usually brings more to the table.

Because you are voting him for lurking. That is a policy lynch. Is lurking in his scum meta? No, not at all. Does he usually bring more to the table? Yes, he does. That doesn't matter much.

How often does town you do that Nacho?

I don't do it often, but sometimes it's necessary.

[Nachomamma8]

The only better thing I can do is vote you.

Then stop pussyfooting and vote me.

[Wisdom]

I'm not going to have support on lynching a claimed N1 PR, so why bother.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm not going to have support on lynching a claimed N1 PR, so why bother.

And if you're not going to vote me, then why posture?

[Wisdom]

Because you're either scum or terrible town and you're not usually terrible as town.

[Nachomamma8]

What has been wrong with any of my play? You've been happy to attack it, but pretty hard to pin down when we're actually talking about reasons.

[Wisdom]

For starters, you're voting me.