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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:42 am

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Votecount 2.04:

Jennifer - Klick, Arcangel
DrippingGoofball - Titan, RachMarie, zdenek, Jennifer, Underachivers
Antilles - DrippingGoofball, Rainbowdash, Human Destroyer
Klick - Bulbazak

Not Voting - Antilles, Jennifer, BBmolla, TheLurker, Ms Marangal, Arcangel, RachMarie, Metal Overlord

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to no-lynch.

The Deadline is in (expired on 2013-04-20 23:09:09) or by 10:10 PM on April 20th, 2013.


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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:43 am

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In post 1097, BBmolla wrote:DGB is bussing MO btw


Bus'ing MO?
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:53 am

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Well why'd you stop bussing him then
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 861, Titan wrote:
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I know that people have pointed it out since you replaced in, so I'm really not sure how to take your most recent post. There are no power roles in this game. Not one. There is a plurality? lynch. Right now, if not a single soul does anything. TUA's are getting lynched.

Your other head asked for claims two pages prior to this you guys should really talk
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 861, Titan wrote:
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I know that people have pointed it out since you replaced in, so I'm really not sure how to take your most recent post. There are no power roles in this game. Not one. There is a plurality? lynch. Right now, if not a single soul does anything. TUA's are getting lynched.

Your other head asked for claims two pages prior to this you guys should really talk
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:59 am

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Oh I'm dumb you never bussed him I misread a post.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:04 pm

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wow...

I'm not really seeing MO scum, mainly because of the ingenuity of the MS part of the post. Kx isn't all to horrible either, and I'm thinking that people are making him look worse then he actually is. the survival tells are weak for that slot, and there really isn't anything that's standing out. if anything, MS is actually trying his hardest to actually participate in this game evidence by him being upset that people are ignoring his wall post
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:24 pm

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BB, I would take Marangal's townslip with a grain of salt - she's fooled me with one before.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:31 pm

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In post 1089, Zdenek wrote:
You think it's townie to not vote for scum because the scum is lurking and you think that it's suspect to vote for lurking players?


I never said any of this. I said that I understood Jen not wanting to vote for a player that was V/LA, and that it was not a bad decision at all. Just because Key ended up being scum still does not make it a bad decision. That's Post Hoc.

That being said, I actually do not hold lurking to be the scumtell as others do. I find it to be null in terms of alignment, as both town and scum do it. It is the actual content of the posts that I judge. That's why I thought Antilles and TAM to be scum, not by their lurking, but by what they actually posted. And you are right in one regard, I do find it suspicious when someone focuses on a lurker for the sole reason of them lurking. Lurkers make easy mislynch targets, and it's easy for scum to excuse themselves after the fact. So yes, focusing on lurkers can be scummy.

Also, what exactly do you find irritating about my posts?

Not really liking BB's posts so far.

In post 1106, Ms Marangal wrote:
I'm not really seeing MO scum, mainly because of the ingenuity of the MS part of the post. Kx isn't all to horrible either, and I'm thinking that people are making him look worse then he actually is. the survival tells are weak for that slot, and there really isn't anything that's standing out. if anything, MS is actually trying his hardest to actually participate in this game evidence by him being upset that people are ignoring his wall post


First, ingenuity is not a towntell. Scum have every reason to be clever too, perhaps even more so than town. Second, how are the survival tells weak? Third, you try to vindicate the slot by saying there is nothing that stands out, and that MO is town partly based on MS being upset about ignoring his wall, but did you happen to read any of the walls, especially the back-and-forth between us? I brought out several things during that conversation. Heck, I even summarized it in a tl;dr post that highlighted the main points of the MO case. What exactly do you not understand/disagree with?
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:41 pm

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In post 1108, Bulbazak wrote:Not really liking BB's posts so far.

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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:14 pm

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Death list: Antilles and Klick
Maybe death: Molla, MM (this one is new), MO, Jen(?)

Lets go something like that
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:16 pm

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Why is everyone pushing someone who will be replaced?
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:17 pm

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In post 1111, RachMarie wrote:Why is everyone pushing someone who will be replaced?


Because that doesnt change the fact that I think the slot is scum.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:20 pm

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UNVOTE:

Can I ask how I placed a spot on the death list, aside from not really doing much?

Town reads feel really easy here, but I really don't feel like I can peg anyone as scum.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:20 pm

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why not go for someone who is playing and then see what the replacement is like? After all Antilles really did not post much at all..



BTW at mod now that he has replaced out can we know who the heads were?
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:22 pm

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I see you don't like the letter M...

RBD, isn't it better to wait to hear from Antilles's replacement before getting all gung-ho on their wagon? I'm 50/50 on whether their posts were evidence of scum or just of a two man hydra where neither could make time for the game. Plus, some of the attention he's gotten lately has made me very nervous regarding that slot.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:23 pm

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In post 1113, Klick wrote:UNVOTE:

Can I ask how I placed a spot on the death list, aside from not really doing much?

Town reads feel really easy here, but I really don't feel like I can peg anyone as scum.

This is nightless, Town reads are more important anyway.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:26 pm

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Yeah, but I've observed that when you're in situations like that, your townreads usually get killed by paranoia over time.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:28 pm

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This game being a perfect example.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:29 pm

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grumble grumble grumble yeah had you put me and Elmo later in your "plan" Maybe we would have gotten Mhork I just knew he had to be scum.....
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:32 pm

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Yeah it sucked. The plan WORKED, but it was enacted in the worst possible way.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:40 pm

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@Rainbow, our discussion on KBW was nonexistent. Me and MS have been running a very disconnected Hydra, not really talking about the game much together. I believe the extent of it was a few words about if we were for policy lynches or not, but even that I'm not sure about. Also, you asked a question for how we are about bussing, I don't have any scum meta, and not sure about MS. You can check Friends and Enemies, which was already linked in the thread, for me as a Mason though, were I ignored one of my partners for the most part and formed a rather awkward (imo, though apparently people bought it) negative relation with the other.

@Bulbakaz, a question, you failed to disprove any of the defenses I raised against your points regarding me aside from that I ragequit, which, as far as I know, isn't alignment indicative. What do you currently think of me in particular? Also, want me to make a compilation of all the horrible arguments/responses you've made?

@HD, why do you find our slot scum?

How is Antilles even still in the game? Anyway, would be fine with their lynch.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:41 pm

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well, yeah I realize that being Genuine in your posts and stuff isn't a town-tell though it's incredibly hard to sound Genuine and Honest in what you say or do as scum, hence why I believe MO's genuineness is a sign that he is in fact town.

and then there's the fact that the walls between you and that slot was actually an argument between you and Kx. the ones you did have with him didn't feel malicious in the slightest.

I also couldn't help but realize that people were pegging active members as somewhat scummy because they weren't as activity here doesn't match their activity else where? I can't help but think that it's a weak reason to suspect a person, especially because this is a large game. it's alot more easier to lurk in a large game then it is in a smaller game. I also couldn't help but notice that people who called those people out didn't add me in that list even though I havn't been incredibly active here either. I'll find those people later and question them

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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:43 pm

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In post 1114, RachMarie wrote:why not go for someone who is playing and then see what the replacement is like? After all Antilles really did not post much at all..



BTW at mod now that he has replaced out can we know who the heads were?

I do not reveal heads unless the 2+ people in the hydra do so, intentionally or not.

I still don't even know one of the heads.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:44 pm

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In post 1113, Klick wrote:Can I ask how I placed a spot on the death list, aside from not really doing much?


D1 camp on TUA while attacking (yet never voting) DGB paired with early passive defense to later ignoring KBW.

Then how the D1 attacking of DGB really hasnt rolled over to today bugs me too.
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