Micro 148: 50/50 Mafia (OVER)

[PimHel]

You didn't attack hard. After many posts that didn't go about Hamlet, you brought up your 'case' which was about posts from a few pages ago. Before that, you chose to attack theNE for his reasons for voting Hamlet. Looking back, you mentioned that scum love taking advantage of a FoS like theNE at the start of the game. You attacked no player who questioned the FoS. But you attacked Hamlet for going against Kid A, which could have been due to him questioning the FoS.

Lucky for you, I can't discuss one of those games yet as it's ongoing. Because it shows a whole different Zach.

[PimHel]

Mod

, could you prod Kid A?

[Kid A]

hi im alive gimme a sec to read

[Kid A]

I dont think hyperion is a good lynch, if he was scum he could have just said that he voted hamlet or something and he was saying that he reads kx as scum for ages

[zachattack]

And he didn't say a word about Ham. If he claimed to vote Ham, it'd be an obvious lie.

Lucky for you, I can't discuss one of those games yet as it's ongoing. Because it shows a whole different Zach.

Hmm?

As for my TNE stance from early Day 1, I questioned Kid A's response to the FOS. KX went through the same progression as I did on TNE before I replaced, so I had no issue with him. And yes, I didn't like TNE's reason for voting Ham. Which was no reason but gut. However, he seems a lot more like village idiot than scum.

[PimHel]

Ongoing game.

No, you attacked his defense, not his attack.
And to me, that's strange. You were barely pushing the lynch on Hamlet and then even switch your attention to somebody who was also suspicious of him.

[D3f3nd3r]

Thenewearth, mothrax, and Hyperion, get yourselves in here.

Please refrain from talk of ongoing games. I consider the bottom line of post 375 talk of ongoing games.

[thenewearth]

Whoops... Sorry

Will read when haz time

[mothrax]

In here. 14 hour work day. Post tomorrow

[thenewearth]

@Mod: More recent votecount, please

[D3f3nd3r]

@Mod: More recent votecount, please

No votes have been placed or removed since the last Vote Count. So no.

Oh yeah, I prodded Hyperion yesterday night.

[zachattack]

This was a fun game once upon a time.

I won't be anon voting Pimhel. He's bothered to post in the last week. I'd rather lose to active scum then inactive scum. That vote count shit was weak, and my town read is based on meta, so it's something I could be wrong about. And if Pim and TNE are both townie, I'd rather TNE on the block. Hyp and TNE will be my votes, and I'm really hoping it's Hyp who gets it. If somebody aside from those two get lynched, I'll anon vote Hyp.

[thenewearth]

I still don't buy KX's claim that much

[mothrax]

Ok. I know I have been bad about this but Hyperion has posted once today and that was on the 17th... Jeez.

I'm not fond of TNE still, but since his lynch isn't gonna fly...

I don't like Zachs recent take charge attitude. He almost got lunched and its all the sudden "oh shit, gotta play"
KX trying to direct lynches is also scummy, claimed PR or not. Since we don't know the setup, we don't even know if there is a cop... Grrrr. Gotta look at the Votecount.

[mothrax]

Ok, the more I look at Zach the less I like him. He went from "KX is clear" to "KX is scum" in less than a page...

vote zachattack

[PimHel]

I thought about KX. If KX and Hamlet were the scumteam, then KX claiming would have been the biggest gamble ever. Players had shown intentions of lynching Hamlet and there could be a cop in the game. Then they could have lost D3. Which is why I dropped the attack against KX.

Mothrax, what do you think of Hyperion?
And Kid A should come back...

[Kid A]

im still here but I don't have much to post because I haven't worked out a scumread yet

right now its between mothrax pimhel and tne

[zachattack]

Ok, the more I look at Zach the less I like him. He went from "KX is clear" to "KX is scum" in less than a page...

vote zachattack

Why is that scummy?

[mothrax]

Because its super opposite and KX didn't do anything to warrant it. You just clear KX because of the votes, then all of the sudden are like lolnope. It helps that other people came out against KX too.

@pim: needs more posting. I got a strong town vibe early on but he's fallen off the map... Needs to be replaced.

@kida: don't sit and wait for a scum read.... Do something. Pressure someone.

[D3f3nd3r]

Replacing Hyperion.

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And prodding KX.

[Kid A]

im not sitting and waiting im reading through old posts to look for something to pressure people with

[Kid A]

Hamlet never mentions zach at all

distancing?

[zachattack]

That's L-2 with people I'm confident are townies as the voters. I'd wait for Hyperion before that gets pushed further. Day started 9 hours ago, I'm not concerned by his absence yet.

I don't trust KX.

And yes, I do realize how bad this looks for me. Hopefully the anonymous votes will help to clean me a little, unlikely that 7/9 anonymous votes would be on mafia and the 2 on different people when voting is anonymous etc.

Situation didn't look bad for you at all, it looked like scum voted you. Why you so worried?

Inspected City, so yeah. Damn. City, why you play like that?

Anyway, mafia gain the most out of a non-mafia player being lynched, and as such would most likely try to control the lynch. This makes it seem like they would have all voted the same player. Of the votes, the only clustering were on Hamlet, who flipped scum, and so was most likely not who the mafia voted for, and Me. However, if PimHel claims to have voted me, it means we probably only have one mafia left, or PimHel is mafia. Also, we can probably assume whoever voted City is clean.

The other option is that both City and Hamlet flaked on the anonymous vote, and so ended up self voting.

Prescient guess. It's obvious that's what happened now, I dont think anyone lied about their vote, but it was a stretch at the time unless you and Ham were the scum team and you knew he self voted. You also knew the active town were all on you two so it was likely that CE flaked. I thought you were scums choice for anon lynch, but looking back, I think the 6 active townies were just really on the ball in the anon stage.

Vote:KX

These are the posts your referring to, correct?

Because its super opposite and KX didn't do anything to warrant it. You just clear KX because of the votes, then all of the sudden are like lolnope. It helps that other people came out against KX too.

Who were these other people? I believe my reasons for the flip were clear, him guessing the self votes well before it was obvious was a huge red flag for me. His choice of second target was another.

[KX]

Oh yeah, I'll try to get back to this game asap.

@MOD, we only have four days left, right? If so, we should really get decided on a lynch and anonymous lynch rather then waiting it out like last time. Tbh I can't really remember much, but unless we have anything important left to say, announcing who we want to lynch so we can get a consensus down seems like the best option. TNE and Hyperion would be my preferred options, but PimHel or zach are also acceptable.

[D3f3nd3r]

ArcAngel9 replaces Hyperion.

Deadline has been extended to 4/30. That's an extension of two days.