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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:12 am

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Yeah, they would, regardless of alignment, I would think. Why?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:19 am

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In post 321, borkjerfkin wrote:...that's all you got?
slow down hero.. I am at work..so was finishing something.. readint through..
ferret posts are nightmare..
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:20 am

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In post 325, borkjerfkin wrote:Yeah, they would, regardless of alignment, I would think. Why?
Never seen a real vig before. I thought all deaths end the day.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:27 am

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Oh fuck, I just realized

Werewolves can fucking be masons in this (well, 1 could)

Mod: what would happen if Town Mason and Werewolf Mason were both pulled? Would they be grouped together and not told true alignment? How does that even work?
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:32 am

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In post 201, Xegarus wrote:
In post 170, GuyInFreezer wrote:Fuck you and your reaction. It didn't help me anything with my read. (It was fake obv)
Fuck you and your stupid reaction test.
Why do one this early?
What were you expecting?

If the vig was real, it would be stupid for multiple reasons and would only make you look bad. This makes it all the more likely for everyone to believe it was a reaction test.

Now as it was fake and thus testing reactions, and people are assuming something is testing them, it has no chance in hell of working. So what is the point in doing it? It just becomes noise. I understand that this game has been slow. But that is no reason to do something useless.
It's better not to say anything than to chat shit.
Cause atm, it just looks like you are trying to look like you're doing something.


Pedit:
You'd vote no lynch?
Question for everyone. What is your opinion on voteing no lynch on day 1 of a game this size? I haven't played such a small game and so would like to know if opinions are still similar as to always vote day 1.
With a game this size, shouldnt the chance of hitting scum day 1 be greater than say in a newbie format?
I don't think there are any VIG's on this game. VIG's will be too much for a micro setup. So ..NO
and no lynch is bad idea.. We take the lynch today....
In post 207, borkjerfkin wrote:I've played with Mollie quite a bit; she usually doesn't fuck around this much and when she probes people there is usually some sort of follow up
Agree, Town mollie is more active.
In post 209, borkjerfkin wrote:my daughter is in meltdown mode so I'm gonna deal with that, but did you mean how you think he's lying about his experience level?
You have a daughter? Awww.. that's sweet. :)
In post 213, Xegarus wrote:Although that may be likely, i can see town doing that too. Everybody wants to look town, even town. If you are under the impression that you have an advantage in being able to do so, wouldn't you?
Although it would be morally wrong if you are correct, i still don't see it as alignment based.

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You day vigged.
This early.
And your reason? PoE. Basically out of the blue.
An PoE this early being the motivation to day vig this early would only make you look bad if it was real.
And the thing i have noticed is that people dont say shit about a reaction test until the 'subject' says something. So what would you expect me to say? Not call out the fact that it was a rather stupid thing to do at the time?
Xeg, you're arguing over a case that is not even viable.
I don't feel GIF and Xeg arguments are just townie twonie.. One of them seems SCUM!!!
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:33 am

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In post 328, borkjerfkin wrote:Oh fuck, I just realized

Werewolves can fucking be masons in this (well, 1 could)

Mod: what would happen if Town Mason and Werewolf Mason were both pulled? Would they be grouped together and not told true alignment? How does that even work?
As an answer, I will quote from the Great Idea Setup page in the MafiaScum wiki:

If more than 2 Masons or Lovers are pulled, then all the Masons form one mason group, and all the lovers form one Lover group (rather than separate pairs).
As was intended by the setup creator, I have interpreted this such that ANY Mason or Lover that was pulled during setup creation will form a Mason or Lover group with ALL other Masons or Lovers that were pulled during setup creation. That is all I can/will answer with regards to the question.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:38 am

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@Mod, that's great, but would the masons be told straight up that their partners are town masons? or would they just say "mason"


I'm pretty sure we're entitled to know this.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:38 am

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@AA

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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:40 am

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In post 329, ArcAngel9 wrote:Xeg, you're arguing over a case that is not even viable.
What do you mean viable?
I was trying to make a point. Trying to explain why i thought his vig reaction test was not good.
In post 330, Maestro wrote:As was intended by the setup creator, I have interpreted this such that ANY Mason or Lover that was pulled during setup creation will form a Mason or Lover group with ALL other Masons or Lovers that were pulled during setup creation. That is all I can/will answer with regards to the question.
In post 329, ArcAngel9 wrote:I don't feel GIF and Xeg arguments are just townie twonie.. One of them seems SCUM!!!
Agree'd
VOTE: GiF

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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:41 am

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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 288, borkjerfkin wrote:I think we should lynch outside of the claimed Masons today just because if they're town scum pretty much have to kill them soon or risk an innocent investigation on them which gives 3 confirmed town.

Any way you slice it scum claiming mason pair is a ballsy as shit play.

That and Mollie has done nothing but try to snark people into not pressuring her.
I hope that you see the risk behind this...
Lets assume that they two are scum...and hoping to push a mislynch today...
1 mislynch and 1 night kill.. it will be 3 townies VS 2 scums.. (and we will be in an assumption that they stil be masons)

We lynch one of them now.. the other flip as confirmed town... Scum takes a night kill.. and town will know the 2 confirmed townies,
and it will be 3 townies (2 confirmed ones) vs 2 scums.. What do you think?
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:51 am

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In post 331, borkjerfkin wrote:
@Mod, that's great, but would the masons be told straight up that their partners are town masons? or would they just say "mason"


I'm pretty sure we're entitled to know this.
Masons are masons.. they both aligned to one group, that's why they are called masons.
if they alignment is not told to them means..its i neighborizer role not masons.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:52 am

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In post 333, Xegarus wrote:
In post 329, ArcAngel9 wrote:Xeg, you're arguing over a case that is not even viable.
What do you mean viable?
I was trying to make a point. Trying to explain why i thought his vig reaction test was not good.
In post 330, Maestro wrote:As was intended by the setup creator, I have interpreted this such that ANY Mason or Lover that was pulled during setup creation will form a Mason or Lover group with ALL other Masons or Lovers that were pulled during setup creation. That is all I can/will answer with regards to the question.
In post 329, ArcAngel9 wrote:I don't feel GIF and Xeg arguments are just townie twonie.. One of them seems SCUM!!!
Agree'd
VOTE: GiF

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Cute kid and name, bork. How old is she?
Becuz VIG topic itself a pointless discussion here...
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:52 am

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In post 334, borkjerfkin wrote:year and a half
Awww... Cute, you're daughter is adorable. You're truly blessed :)
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:53 am

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My role pm states that my partner is confirmed town and I'm town mason so I don't think ww is mixed in.
Also we know that I'm not the one who made a daykill.

AA9 I'm not following your logic there.

If it's 3 townies with two confirmed town after mislynching one of us, who are the two confirmed towns?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:54 am

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In post 339, GuyInFreezer wrote:My role pm states that my partner is confirmed town and I'm town mason so I don't think ww is mixed in.
Also we know that I'm not the one who made a daykill.

AA9 I'm not following your logic there.

If it's 3 townies with two confirmed town after mislynching one of us, who are the two confirmed towns?
Innocent child and the other Mason....
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:56 am

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Pretty sure you were talking about living townies.

IC is dead and when one of us flip town scum's gonna go for other, which leaves no conf town by d2 providing we don't have a cop or something.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 337, ArcAngel9 wrote:Becuz VIG topic itself a pointless discussion here...
The vig part was not the main part of the topic.
The main part was the reaction test.


And like Maestro said he grouped all masons and lovers together. So it doesnt matter what thier alignment is, they can still be masons.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:57 am

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In post 330, Maestro wrote:
That is all I can/will answer with regards to the question.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:01 am

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In post 341, GuyInFreezer wrote:Pretty sure you were talking about living townies.

IC is dead and when one of us flip town scum's gonna go for other, which leaves no conf town by d2 providing we don't have a cop or something.
It would be the same risk if we don't lynch one of you...
If we have a mislynch today, If IC is taken down by scum in the night... we will be 3:2 scums and if you both are scum. Town is lost!!!

Since mislynch is worth of risk today.. We lynch one of you....and have the other confirmed as town. Since that scum can't target both IC & mason at one night, One of them still lives...

There might not be cops in this game but i am sure there is some sort of protection role or watcher around...
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:03 am

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IC IS DEAD ALREADY.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:03 am

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In post 344, ArcAngel9 wrote:We lynch one of you....and have the other confirmed as town
There is no confirmation that either is town regardless of either's flip.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:04 am

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In post 345, GuyInFreezer wrote:IC IS DEAD ALREADY.
What, how did that happend, I just saw that... i am not sure how i missed that post.. Oh shit!!!
this is not good.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:05 am

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xeg, my role pm says my partner is confirmed town. Unless maestro is lying to me, we're both town.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:06 am

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In post 348, GuyInFreezer wrote:xeg, my role pm says my partner is confirmed town. Unless maestro is lying to me, we're both town.
Or you are lying to us.
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