Open 492: Friends and Enemies (Game over- scum win)

[Majiffy]

For what it's worth, though, AA has been a relative non-issue in this game and I don't really see her "sheeping" me - if she has been, she's been very good at it.

[Does Bo Know]

I'm just worried because I still feel like you two aren't the same alignment.

Give me 5-10 to get to my laptop and bring stuff up.

[Majiffy]

Okie dokie.

I'm going to be getting off in about 20-30 so hurry up.

[Does Bo Know]

Ew gross

[Does Bo Know]

So I've already outlined here a theory of Majiffy and AA not being on the same team.

But there's also the N1 kill. Yeah, I know, more unreliable NK analysis but listen up.

awestfie's only post was:

Majiffy's "concern" regarding as to who the hydra belongs to makes me think that they're most likely not partners, since it's something they would have discussed in the pregame, had they been partners.

(Read: 51 and 61.)

awestfie was killed that night. So awestfie might've been

right

and could be a reason she was killed. Unless, awestfie meant "not partners" in terms of "not Masons or not Mafia" together, which the former is obviously true now due to 2 Masons being downed. Majiffy wouldn't be a Mason the way he tunneled Fuzzy, and AA doesn't seem like Mason material to me.

And AA's behavior regarding on-and-off Fuzzy hasn't been that different from Bowser's. I'd look for more posts but Majiffy has to leave soon.

I just can't see how Majiffy and AA are on the same team.

Thoughts?

[Majiffy]

Ew gross

Sicko.

re: your anti-associatives between me and AA; pretty solid. Seems like a dumb thing to kill someone off for, but awest hadn't done anything else notable so I suppose it's a possibility.

[Does Bo Know]

I'm glad you found that funny. Guess I'm still 12 at heart.

But yeah, I'm just wondering if you're willing to give AA a look tomorrow if Bowser flips town with my hammer. If Bowser flips scum, I'm probably going to be trusting you guys for a while.

Also, the fact that you accept the possible anti-associative tell further separates you two, and makes you more likely town, since you're more open to that possibility than I can see from scum-Jiffy. (Though if we lynch AA and he flips town...I'll start getting worried.)

Still waiting on AA; after his reads I'm either gonna hammer Fitz or go after AA again.

[havingfitz]

@Majiffy...

when I flip town who are you going to try and mislynch for the scum win?

Your wife. Have you stopped beating her, by the by?

If you flip town I'll probably just shut up and sit down.

Try to stop being a prick for a post or two (difficult for you I know) and just answer the question. It miiiiiiiight help town tomorrow realize you are in fact scum.

[Does Bo Know]

Fitz: Majiffy already answered my question, saying that VCA could reveal some stuff no matter your flip. So don't get your panties in a bunch because he won't answer a question twice.

[havingfitz]

Didn't plan on being cleared or anything if I hammered you, so don't worry.

Asking Majiffy and AA the same questions I did like 3 posts ago looks to me like you're looking desperately for an unvote through the "when I flip town" shit.

And then yelling "dumb-town" all the time ain't any better either.

I didn't notice your question or I probably wouldn't have asked mine. And from my perspective...replacing in after the D1 and D2 fiascoes and town headed for a third pants on head mislynch...dumb-town is appropriate.

Fitz: Majiffy already answered my question, saying that VCA could reveal some stuff no matter your flip. So don't get your panties in a bunch because he won't answer a question twice.

The answer below was his response to you and an

I don't know....duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....we'll see

isn't the answer I was looking for.

Not sure on either account. We've got enough interesting wagons that VCA will be pretty telling.

So basically he's being non committal so as to not piss anyone else off today and to leave his options open for tomorrow. I'm town...I think he and AA are scum...and I'd like them to say who, based on me being town....which I will flip, they will be going after tomorrow. So how about you not defend him when he isn't answering anything as far as I'm concerned and is just being a prick with the answer he did give.

[Majiffy]

ZzZzZzZzZzZzZz because I ever play to 'not piss anyone off'.

Wake me up when Fitz is dead.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE COUNT 3.6

With 9 alive, its 5 to lynch, 4 to no lynch.

Voting for:

Does Bo Know-

havingfitz-(4) Majiffy, Mac, Amethyst Actor, thenewearth

Amethyst Actor-(2) Rondar, havingfitz
Belisarius-
Mac-
Your Troubles Will Cease-
Rondar-
Majiffy-

Not voting (4): Your Troubles Will Cease, Belisarius, Does Bo Know

You have (expired on 2013-05-21 14:00:00) until day 3 ends.

[Amethyst Actor]

Don't have time, I'll be back Tuesday and maybe Wednesday for some of you guys. What are you waiting for Bo?

-Mom

[Does Bo Know]

Sorry, all I'm wondering is what you possibly plan to do tomorrow depending on Fitz's flip. If you could answer that some time tonight, that would be great. Chances are I'll hammer Fitz after you answer that question.

[jmo16mla]

Mac and thenewearth have been prodded.

[Belisarius]

@Bo are you sure about hammering Fitz this soon?

@TNE and Mac : are you still sure?

My scumread still hasn't gone away, but I'm not entirely sanguine about ending the day phase so early and my brain's still being an asshole WRT 'jiffy

[Does Bo Know]

I was about to come in and post this after the prod but Beli beat me to it:

@TNE
@Mac
Are you two comfortable enough with a Fitz lynch today? I'm considering hammering soon and if you don't want the lynch to go through yet, unvote now.

[Belisarius]

I was about to come in and post this after the prod but Beli beat me to it:

@TNE
@Mac
Are you two comfortable enough with a Fitz lynch today? I'm considering hammering soon and if you don't want the lynch to go through yet, unvote now.

OK, that makes me feel better about a potential Fitz lync and preserves your status as my top town read.

[thenewearth]

Sorry for my absence. T'was busy with college enrollment.

@TNE

Is your vote just a Majiffy sheep or does it have some actual substance behind it?

I actually have fitz as a scum read

[Does Bo Know]

Cool.

What points do you have on Fitz?

[thenewearth]

Are you two comfortable enough with a Fitz lynch today? I'm considering hammering soon and if you don't want the lynch to go through yet, unvote now.

Yes. Very much

[Belisarius]

What points do you have on Fitz?

answer prz TNE

[thenewearth]

The highest point of my suspicion is that he's too defensive with accusations. Especially to jiffy. And a bit of AA. I'm pretty sure town would act a different way. His defensive posts pretty much says scum every time

[Mac]

I'm cool with a fitz lynch. Agree with most of what tne said, add in the fact he hopped on AA's wagon on the basis lf an associative tell which is just silly.

[havingfitz]

@TNE...why do you think town would act any differently than I am?  When you are town and someone presents a case on you do you not defend yourself?  If not....that's pretty pathetic and not in support of you wincon.  As Majiffy's weakass case on me is one of my reasons for suspecting him of course I am going to continue to point out how ridiculous it is.  I doubt you have read my exchanges with Majiffy because any competent person would be able to see the failures in his logic (which I think are based on the fact he has nothing to work with since he is making a case against town).  BTW, the fact you correctly asessed that Bowser was frustrated town quitting this game makes your "he's defending himself" case on me even more terrible.  I think we know which side of your inconsistent play is evident in this game.

@Mac...same above to you.  You don't defend yourself when you are town?  We're one mislynch away from LYLO.  I'm town and lynching me is going to get you/us there.  Then your margin for error becomes zero.  I would suggest you put a little more effort in to finding scum once your safety net has completely disappeared.  As for me voting AA for an associative tell...that's blantantly not true and you obviously haven't been keeping up.  I have brought up several suspicions towards AA, the least of which is the fact I think they are scum with Majiffy.  It's silly that you would not see that. I'm voting AA because town is blind to Majiffy's scummy play and I'm not going to waste my vote on him when my 2nd top suspect has a counterwagon to mine.  Capisci?

I'm resigned to being mislynched.  I think town deserves nothing less with their play throughout the game so far.  In fact...if I had read through the entire game before replacing in I probably would have run the other direction.  But I did not and I've given an honest effort to pointing out who I believe are scum.  It's probably better to let the day last longer and discuss other suspects as well but I doubt that will be the case....since that would be detrimental to scum.

tl:dr;

Tomorrow lynch Majiffy who at that point will have led you by the noses to three mislynches and then AA the next day.  In 3 person LYLO town would be on their own.  I assume at least 2 of the players in a 3 person LYLO situation would be Mac and TNE.