Micro 179 - Mainstream Mini Mafia III [CULT WIN AGAIN]

TheIrishPope · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:01 pm

That's a bit harsh

But I guess I kinda understand it

Doc Holliday · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:18 pm

We were all newbies once. The key to surviving it is to take the lessons that come along with the lumps, recognize that you've got a lot to learn, and not take things personally.

Now, I'm getting really antsy for some quality ArcAngel posts. She said she'd catch up yesterday, and it's not like this is exactly a long thread.

TheIrishPope · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:20 pm

I do agree that Angel is pretty much crucial at this point. However, you know, real life.

Candillan · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:15 pm

"doesn't afraid of anything"
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Good point, though. Our potential scum list is narrowing very quickly, though, so I don't want to dismiss him as town so easily.

Angel will post soon, hopefully.

TheIrishPope · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:11 pm

Bump for Angel
She has been posting elsewhere
(Does that rhyme?)

Candillan · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:52 pm

Sigh
I noticed that too.
(No, I don't think that rhymes, sorry.)

Who · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:06 pm

If we were voting for a lynch, I would vote for Angel right now.

Angel: Stop lurking, start talking.

TheIrishPope · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:41 pm

Alright crazy idea incoming: Angel is lurking, right? To punish Angel, Who or Candillan hammers and she misses out on a lot of participation, right?
Or is that bad?
I truly have no idea.

Candillan · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:47 pm

Nope, I'd rather wait it out.
If she's lurking, we still have time before Election Day.
She might be replaced if she's flaking from the game overall.

TheIrishPope · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:56 pm

Alright, we'll wait out the ten days we have left.
But seriously, ignoring this game is harsh.

Candillan · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Yeah, it is.
And I think it's only another 24(?) hours until she can get a prod.

Candillan · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:01 pm

Okay, twelve more hours until a prod can be issued.

Doc Holliday · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:24 pm

*twiddle*

Checking in

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:47 pm

sorry people.. I wasn't lurking. I some how forgot about this game.
I was busy arguing over with someone on a other game.. I ll just post now..

Candillan · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:47 pm

Haha, it's fine. Glad you're here!

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:32 pm

So you all finally concluded that i would be flaking... LOL, I would never flake, or replace out or self hammer myself nor play against win condition. See my records!!!!!! Its just i am in too many games and i have gotten behind with few

But don't ask me why. I enjoy it in this way.
But again, Sorry for keep you guys waiting a bit...

Firstly, All of you note that this is a cult game which makes Cult has highest possibility of winning this game as in when the days increase, I am saying this out of my personal experience. I have played Mainstream mafia before with a 9 player setup.

Since we are 5.. there is only one Cult Leader and 4 townies. If we mislynch on Day 1 and Cult makes a successful recruit in the night, they win as they control the 50 % votes. So don't rush in lynching anyone one on Day1, we have to handle this very carefully. let's not push anyone's lynch out of assumptions. Remember once again that this is not normal mafia for scum hunt, you have to apply a strategic process to get hold of it.

If you ask me what we can we do with out a mislynch on night one? we can always "no lynch" becuz that would give us another day in the game.

And TBH, I am quite surprised with the Governor setup in this game. (seriously, what were you thinking CHK)
Anywayz, It doesn't matter who becomes governor as we don't know the anyone's alignment for sure.

All we could see the potential danger and impact if this power is on wrong hands. If a cult leader gets hold of Governor vote, He/She stops his lynch on Day 1 or Day 2, so "that's BIG" no.... We can't afford to have cult leader gaining the "GOVERNOR" ability.

SO, I happen to see someone doing some sort of Softclaim that proves that they are town..?
Whoever that is, can you confirm us if you're the Town IC? Becuz i am tending to believe that there is a high possibility of IC in this game(bec of the setup), If you're the IC ...then i have good plan...

And also i would like every to MASS CLAIM their roles and powers... becuz it might help narrow down the CL or his follower in day after based on the night actions...

Firstly.. Everyone please unvote your election.

Unvote

I am sorry candillan, you could be town but i just want to make sure that we do this in right way so that this town don't handover the Governor ability straight to the cult leader

I really wish i could comment on each of the posts you guys made especially TIP posts.. dude.. there were so many flaws in your posts but its okay, you get hold of this in no time.

Now can we all do the claims in an order...

My preference is..

TRP
Doc Holiday
Candillan
who
Myself..

if anyone has objections, please free to talk about it.. I can claim first too.. and again i have nothing against anyone becoming a governor except i want to make sure that it goes on safer hands than wrong hands.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:54 pm

In post 90, ArcAngel9 wrote:All we could see the potential danger and impact if this power is on wrong hands. If a cult leader gets hold of Governor vote, He/She stops his lynch on Day 1 or Day 2, so "that's BIG" no.... We can't afford to have cult leader gaining the "GOVERNOR" ability.

Small correction here.. Cult Leader can't stop his/her lynch on day 1 phase..
but he could do use it on his recruit.

Candillan · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 pm

Personally, I feel like Who should claim last, as they claim that they're provable. Other than that, I'm fine with a massclaim, and I do feel that TIP should go first.
Or, maybe we should do it popcorn style? Either one works.

What does the "Town IC" entail?

I'm fine with holding off on the election. Good point on how a CL-Gov could stop a lynch on his recruit, I missed that.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:14 pm

Town Innocent Child.
Becuz I rather want to handover the governor ability to town IC, that would be safest way to know that its not ending up in wrong hands.

We need to mass claim today before we knew who we are giving authority to stop lynches.. this could also help us seeing if CL is faking about their role info or not. Remember again.. If we mislynch, CL wins this game with a successful night recruit , if we go for no lynch, we will be in lylo on Day 2

Candillan · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:18 pm

Oh, Innocent Child. I just looked it up on the wiki.

pedit:
You ninja'd me, welp.

Good point, and if that's the case then I have no problem with your plan. If we lynch the CL, the recruit can't recruit others, right?

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:28 pm

there are variations in setup process... but it depends on MOD. Since that CHK didn't give us much information about setup.
Its possible that Cult followers would be powerless.

Mod, Can you confirm if Cult Leader manage to recruit a cultist, can a cultist is able to re-recruit someone?

But i don't know why we even talking about this..i don't think this game go that long considering the amount of players is actually less.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:31 pm

In post 94, Candillan wrote:Oh, Innocent Child. I just looked it up on the wiki.

pedit:
You ninja'd me, welp.

Good point, and if that's the case then I have no problem with your plan. If we lynch the CL, the recruit can't recruit others, right?

Let's see if there is any IC in the game.. If they are.. they would probably be 1-shot IC as the game didn't open with a confirmed IC.

Doc Holliday · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:02 am

I really strongly disagree with ArcAngel's proposed claim order, and am automatically suspicious of anyone placing themselves last in a fixed order.

I suggest popcorn* instead, and I am willing to go first. That said, I agree with the logic of claiming right away, though I doubt it will actually help. This game likely has numerous unique roles, and we

*@TIP: Popcorn is a method of mass claiming by which one person is selected to claim first and designate the next claimant, and so on. It has the strength of forcing the communally-determined scummier players to claim first, thereby denying them the flexibility of knowing what everyone else is before making a fake claim. A fixed order, as proposed above, can let a sneaky scum write the order themselves to their own advantage.

Because this game is composed of unique roles, I violently oppose the idea of mass claim. This game is broken in favor of the CL without the presence of a Psychologist-type role (or similar) and a mass claim would only expose them. No scum points awarded to ArcAngel for suggesting mass claim, as I initially liked the notion. Scum points for a self-serving fixed order stand.

Doc Holliday · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:04 am

Also, IC is nonsensical in a Cult game. There is no common role that jumps to mind that Who could be soft claiming, reinforcing my unique roles suspicion.

I am intentionally and pointedly choosing not to unvote my election choice.

Who · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:16 am

I said verifiable, not IC.

I'm not sure about a mass-claim. I think that given how we are hoping not to go past day one, it could be a good idea, but if we do have to go past day one there are probably roles which would turn it into LYLO day one rather than MYLO.