Mini 1454 - GAME OVER

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.8:

notscience:

jon_h61, Nobody Special, JuanJuan, AngelInFreezer (4)

HookerPunch:

Amrun, marcmann2, Aj The Epic, notscience (4)

bubbajack8:

fuzzybutternut, HookerPunch (2)

fuzzybutternut:

JKMatthews (1)

Amrun:

bubbajack8 (1)

Not Voting:

pitoli

With 13 alive, it takes 7 players to reach a lynch.

V/LA:

Mod V/LA from 5/27 to 5/28 for moving back to college and getting internet set-up at the house I'm living at in June. Information about a back-up mod stepping in for this brief period will be forthcoming.

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-06-10 22:45:00)

Please take special note of the announcement about my V/LA above.

[notscience]

Voting is not scummy. I'm sorry. Trying to rush people to vote, is. I have already said I'm inexperienced on MS but experienced in mafia. I'm not a
Spoiler:
And I refuse to be treated as one. I'll make decisions on my own.

Also this is bubba-town.

@notscience: the only time town say such thing is out of frustration. I don't see frustration in your post. What you're doing basically is "lol he sux lynch him! your attack on me is shit, do better!" and doing nothing remarkable yourself.

-G

LOLWUT? How the hell is this even remotely true. I've been voted for what exactly? Voting someone who disrupts my game, making it hard for me to actually decipher others because I'm too focused on his slot? Tell me how that's not incredibly frustrating. I pushed who i think is scum. I changed my vote because HP is pinging my scumdar harder atm. Still not liking fuzzy.

[AngelInFreezer]

Give me your opinion on bubba.

-G

[notscience]

I'm not liking him. Whereas before I could see justification for his lack of sustenance, he seems to post in the following categories-
1) I'm not a noob!
2) Noobs shouldn't be lynched!
3) Random nonsensical stuff that helps noone in the game!
4) Content>Amount. Last I checked, look at what he has done.

[Rob14]

Mod Announcement:

Maestro is now the back-up moderator for this game. He will cover for me during the V/LA I mentioned a few posts ago. Hopefully, that's the only time you'll see him.

[bubbajack8]

Yes, but scum in threads are a greater threat than lurker prodded.

I fully agree. I was just making sure you understood why he was voting him.

So, in your minds a distraction is someone who I think is town? No. A distraction in my case is someone whose play waffles back and forth so much I want to vote them just as much as sheeping them. And bubba, I'm not about to stand by anyones points in this, noone has brought up anything that I can actually find a common thread in my own thoughts.

I didn't understand a word of this except the waffling thing. Which I don't see a problem with unless it's 3 way lylo.

Juan, I don't quite know what you mean with 3P. I do better when we have people who aren't screwing around messing up things, I find it a giant pain to have to sift through. I don't care if you wrote the manual to reading fuzzy, I'm not trusting anything anyone says about him until he either gets serious or flips town.

I actually said I think fuzzy is town as well. Like a million times.

Early in the day? Hell, we have 10 days. This is the shortest dayspan I've had. So, forgive me for rushing some, but come on.

>Lynching before we have all come to an agreement.

Since people are taking my "he's either scum or town" sentence out of context, I should clarify in I said he's either scum or a townie, but not a power role. I figured that was apparent in my last post, but I guess not.

It was apparent. And extremely scummy to out someone as a non-PR. You should have been happy we let it go.

Oh, dear God.

Don't leave this queue or the mini normal queue, then. This is a really nicey-nice game.

Perhaps I am misremembering, then, I don't doubt it could happen. I know by the end of my last run, I was the one in fuzzy's position, but otherwise the discussion was civil.

Discussion Civil on Mafia? Lol!

@AJ: While I am not posting as much as others, I would argue that I am attempting to contribute, but whatever. I won't fight a worthless battle of definitions at this stage in the game.

At least he is attempting to contribute unlike some other players this is true.

In any case, I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt to bubba, but his last post is bothersome to me, mostly due to the "I'm a proud black woman who don't need no meta" routine, but something about it feels...off? Perhaps it's just fear, but this whole time bubba is being defensive to an almost scummy degree, if that can be a thing.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: bubbajack8

I've said before in games I don't meta. And I've said that as town. It's carried over from EM. I can't believe you are voting me because I refuse to partake in something I don't agree with. (to some degree)

Come back when you have a better reason for me.

VOTE: notscience

-G

Lmfao. I was about to ask what you reasoning for this vote was. Then I realized it. 10/10

this puts him in either the role of a scum or townie

I don't like this. I feel like that statement altogether is very anti-town. (I'll play along with you all for a moment and assume fuzzy is town) So, if fuzzy is town, you've essentially just made it easier for the mafia to pick a target. To me, that statement sounds like something the mafia would debate during the nighttime. I don't like it, it comes off VERY scummy in my eyes.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hookerpunch

I agree it's scummy but you should have involved the part where he says fuzzy isn't a PR.

Come back when you have a better reason for me.

Do you know who say these stuff the most?

Scums who got caught for wrong reason.

-G

Lmfao, so telling him to come back with a decent reason of a vote is scummy? So by your logic there, anyone saying anything related to someone not having a good reason to vote is scummy, no?

I think he may be thinking more along the lines of, "instead of saying Come up with a better reason, show yourself as town" Could be flipping balls.

bubba
drop your EM logic
it just doesn't work there

The meta logic? or?

G, are you GIF?

yes.

no. He's Yeong! <3 Alts.

Hmm? You were voting for bubba? In truth, I hadn't been paying attention to the vote distribution much, since I don't have much to say regarding where votes are placed at the moment. And you had already changed your vote to me when I wrote my post. Fair enough, follow your heart and all that, but I will say voting bubba was not an attempt to save face with anyone.

Actually, that's a half-lie. I didn't realize that votes for lurkers are apparently out-of-vogue. Now I do.

Who is this talking to? Cause I'm pretty confused.

Voting is not scummy. I'm sorry. Trying to rush people to vote, is. I have already said I'm inexperienced on MS but experienced in mafia. I'm not a
Spoiler:
And I refuse to be treated as one. I'll make decisions on my own.

Also this is bubba-town.

@notscience: the only time town say such thing is out of frustration. I don't see frustration in your post. What you're doing basically is "lol he sux lynch him! your attack on me is shit, do better!" and doing nothing remarkable yourself.

-G

LOLWUT? How the hell is this even remotely true. I've been voted for what exactly? Voting someone who disrupts my game, making it hard for me to actually decipher others because I'm too focused on his slot? Tell me how that's not incredibly frustrating. I pushed who i think is scum. I changed my vote because HP is pinging my scumdar harder atm. Still not liking fuzzy.

Lynching a nuisance is NEVER a good idea. As said before. It's good you changed your vote and gave reason for it, so I don't understand what's going on anymo.

I'm not liking him. Whereas before I could see justification for his lack of sustenance, he seems to post in the following categories-
1) I'm not a noob!
2) Noobs shouldn't be lynched!
3) Random nonsensical stuff that helps noone in the game!
4) Content>Amount. Last I checked, look at what he has done.

1. Fact.
2. I actually wasn't saying that, Amrun was. And I was pointing out his flaws.
3. Like?
4. I believe I've posted actually content. It's not as if I'm posting fluff.

[fuzzybutternut]

Mod Announcement:

Maestro is now the back-up moderator for this game. He will cover for me during the V/LA I mentioned a few posts ago. Hopefully, that's the only time you'll see him.

inb4 Maestro modkills me for no reason.

HEY M!

[AngelInFreezer]

K. It seems that you're just doing fine.
Now give me the reads that you promised me yesterday.

P-Edit: to notscience.
-G

[fuzzybutternut]

So, in your minds a distraction is someone who I think is town? No. A distraction in my case is someone whose play waffles back and forth so much I want to vote them just as much as sheeping them. And bubba, I'm not about to stand by anyones points in this, noone has brought up anything that I can actually find a common thread in my own thoughts.

Juan, I don't quite know what you mean with 3P. I do better when we have people who aren't screwing around messing up things, I find it a giant pain to have to sift through. I don't care if you wrote the manual to reading fuzzy, I'm not trusting anything anyone says about him until he either gets serious or flips town.

Early in the day? Hell, we have 10 days. This is the shortest dayspan I've had. So, forgive me for rushing some, but come on.

I love how I got a vote just for having my vote on someone for my own reasons. Anti-town for not adhering to his statements? No thanks. Come back when you have a better reason for me.

Son of a bitch. What fucking part of "I'm completely serious right now" do you not understand.

*facepalm*

[fuzzybutternut]

Now then, can we please lynch Bubba?

[AngelInFreezer]

@bubba: stuff like vote - lynch.

P-Edit: fuzzy, your "serious" reason consisted of "oh my rvs vote is usually on scum"
If that's serious to you, go take a break, and come back with fresh mind.

-G

[AngelInFreezer]

@bubba: stuff like vote - lynch.

P-Edit: fuzzy, your "serious" reason consisted of "oh my rvs vote is usually on scum"
If that's serious to you, go take a break, and come back with fresh mind.

-G

[bubbajack8]

@bubba: stuff like vote - lynch.

P-Edit: fuzzy, your "serious" reason consisted of "oh my rvs vote is usually on scum"
If that's serious to you, go take a break, and come back with fresh mind.

-G

ok?

If that's serious to him he didn't read my spoiler.

[AngelInFreezer]

Mod Announcement:

Maestro is now the back-up moderator for this game. He will cover for me during the V/LA I mentioned a few posts ago. Hopefully, that's the only time you'll see him.

I'm pretty sure he will like this hydra.

-G

[fuzzybutternut]

@bubba: stuff like vote - lynch.

P-Edit: fuzzy, your "serious" reason consisted of "oh my rvs vote is usually on scum"
If that's serious to you, go take a break, and come back with fresh mind.

-G

It is serious, considering.
I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum.

[bubbajack8]

I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum.

Now then, can we please lynch Bubba?

Lol Fuzzy you have to be kidding me right?

[Amrun]

That is one of the worst things I've ever heard.

I deserve a hug for having read that.

[bubbajack8]

/hugs Amrun.

[JuanJuan]

@bubba: stuff like vote - lynch.

P-Edit: fuzzy, your "serious" reason consisted of "oh my rvs vote is usually on scum"
If that's serious to you, go take a break, and come back with fresh mind.

-G

It is serious, considering.

I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum

.

#209 Now then, can we please lynch Bubba?
#214 I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum.

[JuanJuan]

EBWOP: Damn you, bubba, beat me to it.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum.

Now then, can we please lynch Bubba?

Lol Fuzzy you have to be kidding me right?

Did I say sheep me? No, I didn't. Cases have been made against you. Others think you are scum. Usually, when people think they find scum, they want them lynched.

[notscience]

AJ- He doesn't really have all that much content. What he does have is actually good, but he doesn't have a lot. Leaning town.
Amrun- All he has done is QQ about new people, complain, and try to correct people incessantly. Nothing going on for him, yet he claims to be experienced. So, leaning scum.
AIF- Null. I really disagree with a lot of his stuff but the intent is still there. I feel like he keeps going back to "this person hasn't posted enough to be commented on" and I hate excuses.
JKM- Not a whole lot of stuff he's said. Looking at his posts (I'm counting them as 5 because one was just to fix a vote tag) 3/5 are vote switching. I don't like his waffling incessantly, and he's not asking questions.

There's a few, I'll comment on anyone I haven't already spoken about later.

[JKMatthews]

So I work full time... the number of posts I need to catch up on every time I come online is sometimes hard to digest. However, I am reading the whole game, and if I were able to comment amongst some posts I would, but then I read the next 20 and realise a) my opinions had already been expressed or b) have changed.
I also read a hell of a lot of what's been happening as a dick-measuring contest, which really I'm not interested in getting involved in (cos I usually lose them )

I'm still not liking fuzzy or bubba, but really I'm letting my dislike of their playstyle get in the way of my scumhunting. If that's how they play either way, it's annoying as shit and I hope they're the night kills tonight, but I need to start looking elsewhere for scum.
I wish I'd been on earlier, because AiF beat me to pointing out the dodgiest thing that's happened yet imo. notscience gets his back up at the smallest sign of pressure, goes into full sarcasm mode, gets a mention from others, then flips the switch and makes the above post with a few vague reads.
Let's make it 4/6 posts that are vote-switching.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: notscience

[bubbajack8]

AJ- He doesn't really have all that much content. What he does have is actually good, but he doesn't have a lot. Leaning town.

Content > Amount.

Amrun- All he has done is QQ about new people, complain, and try to correct people incessantly. Nothing going on for him, yet he claims to be experienced. So, leaning scum.

This.

AIF- Null. I really disagree with a lot of his stuff but the intent is still there. I feel like he keeps going back to "this person hasn't posted enough to be commented on" and I hate excuses.

Understandable.

JKM- Not a whole lot of stuff he's said. Looking at his posts (I'm counting them as 5 because one was just to fix a vote tag) 3/5 are vote switching. I don't like his waffling incessantly, and he's not asking questions.

Is waffling always scum to you?

I'm not asking anyone to sheep me because of it, but i'm fairly certain bubba is scum.

Now then, can we please lynch Bubba?

Lol Fuzzy you have to be kidding me right?

Did I say sheep me? No, I didn't. Cases have been made against you. Others think you are scum. Usually, when people think they find scum, they want them lynched.

I wasn't the only one who pointed that out....

So I work full time... the number of posts I need to catch up on every time I come online is sometimes hard to digest. However, I am reading the whole game, and if I were able to comment amongst some posts I would, but then I read the next 20 and realise a) my opinions had already been expressed or b) have changed.
I also read a hell of a lot of what's been happening as a dick-measuring contest, which really I'm not interested in getting involved in (cos I usually lose them )

Lmfao.

On a serious note: In what way did your opinions change? This section is rather vague.

I'm still not liking fuzzy or bubba, but really I'm letting my dislike of their playstyle get in the way of my scumhunting. If that's how they play either way, it's annoying as shit and I hope they're the night kills tonight, but I need to start looking elsewhere for scum.
I wish I'd been on earlier, because AiF beat me to pointing out the dodgiest thing that's happened yet imo. notscience gets his back up at the smallest sign of pressure, goes into full sarcasm mode, gets a mention from others, then flips the switch and makes the above post with a few vague reads.
Let's make it 4/6 posts that are vote-switching.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: notscience

At least you aren't voting me because you hate my playstyle. Town Points for that.

Vague reads? I mean at least you gave somewhat reads here, but your beginning part of this post was "vague" Lol.

[fuzzybutternut]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Amrun

This slot needs more attention.