Mini 1456: Revenge (Game Over!)

[Zionite]

Okay so.

Random RVS wagon on Nul for no reason?? Like literally no reason? Why?
But it looks like that's already dissolved. I think?

I'm kinda with Mario here on disliking RVS. It seems to be a necessary evil to start the game, but I'm glad that it seems to be over already. And relatively quickly, at that.

Random Elyse vs Mario tension is random. Either town v town or maybe forced distancing. I can't decide.

denis's self-vote is weird to me too. What's the logic there, denis?

I really don't understand the logic on the enomis wagon at all. Can someone explain this?

OMGUS isn't a reliable scumtell. Like at all.

Why are so many people sheeping this enomis wagon? O_o

UNVOTE: Elyse
VOTE: MonkeyMan

Pushing what looks to me like a BS wagon is probably the scummiest thing I've seen so far this game.

You don't present many opinions of your own in this post. You don't take a position on anything except the OMGUS tell and the MonkeyMan wagon. That's a lot less content than it seems at first.

[Zionite]

I will however, agree with you that MonkeyMan has been scummy enough to vote. I particularly don't like this post:

I'm not trying to convince you just giving my opinion.

Scum typically only explain themselves when questioned, but town will actively try to convince others of their own reads. His unwillingness to show us what he sees without us consistently asking is a reliable scum tell.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MonkeyMan

Please merge my posts if anyone can.

Done.~Sora

[Chenoan]

You don't present many opinions of your own in this post. You don't take a position on anything except the OMGUS tell and the MonkeyMan wagon. That's a lot less content than it seems at first.

Because half the points in my post were questions. Isn't like half of scumhunting asking the right questions? Presenting opnions only gets you so far in a game that's based off of people's interactions so far.

Right now I have way more leaning-town or null reads than anything else. I mean granted it's still hella early day one, but yea. The only way to get the information I want in order to solidify any reads is to ask questions.

Speaking of questions. If you actually read through my post you'd see plenty of them - such as me thinking that the enomis wagon is bad, the Nul wagon was bad, and that Elyse and Mario are probably either both town or both scum.

So why the concerted effort to try to misrep my post, Zionite?

[Keybladewielder]

Hi guys.

Vote: Mario and Luigi

[Doc Holliday]

Why? We're no longer in RVS

[Zionite]

You don't present many opinions of your own in this post. You don't take a position on anything except the OMGUS tell and the MonkeyMan wagon. That's a lot less content than it seems at first.

Because half the points in my post were questions. Isn't like half of scumhunting asking the right questions? Presenting opnions only gets you so far in a game that's based off of people's interactions so far.

Right now I have way more leaning-town or null reads than anything else. I mean granted it's still hella early day one, but yea. The only way to get the information I want in order to solidify any reads is to ask questions.

Speaking of questions. If you actually read through my post you'd see plenty of them - such as me thinking that the enomis wagon is bad, the Nul wagon was bad, and that Elyse and Mario are probably either both town or both scum.

So why the concerted effort to try to misrep my post, Zionite?

Not misrepping, just pointing out that it's not a lot of content from you that I can use to get a read. It doesn't make you scum or town, which is the issue. Hopefully pointing it out is all I need to do to fix it.

[mario and lugi]

You don't present many opinions of your own in this post. You don't take a position on anything except the OMGUS tell and the MonkeyMan wagon. That's a lot less content than it seems at first.

Because half the points in my post were questions. Isn't like half of scumhunting asking the right questions? Presenting opnions only gets you so far in a game that's based off of people's interactions so far.

Right now I have way more leaning-town or null reads than anything else. I mean granted it's still hella early day one, but yea. The only way to get the information I want in order to solidify any reads is to ask questions.

Speaking of questions. If you actually read through my post you'd see plenty of them - such as me thinking that the enomis wagon is bad, the Nul wagon was bad, and that Elyse and Mario are probably either both town or both scum.

So why the concerted effort to try to misrep my post, Zionite?

you know what i think you and monkeyman are working together because you have been really quite this whole time

[SoraAdvent]

Back and forth. Back and forth.
Can't one guy just take the helm instead of having to wait for everyone to agree?

Votecount 1.3

Voting Nul

-mario and lugi(L-6)

Voting MonkeyMan576

-enomis, Zionite, Chenoan(L-4)

Voting mario and lugi

-Blue Yoshi, Keybladewielder(L-5)

Voting denisatp

-denisatp(L-6)

Voting Doc Holliday

-Nul(L-6)

Voting enomis

-Hoopla, MonkeyMan576, Doc Holliday, Elyse(L-3)

Not voting

-Chevre

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in twelve days from now: June 7th, at my former post's(read first post) hour.

Chenoan and Chevre are both on V/LA through the 27th.

denisatp has requested to be replaced: I will find one as soon as I can.

[Keybladewielder]

Ok, not liking how everyone is blindly jumping on this wagon, including Chenoan. It's 4 pages in, and he's L-2. I think we need some unvotes. MonkeyMan and Chenoan jumping this wagon seem really bad on them, because

for Monkey: third to jump on. I usually see only 2, with third being scum. (I've done that before)
Chenoan: putting at L-2. simple as that

Unvote, vote: Chenoan

[Keybladewielder]

also, Yoshi, elaborate on your Mario and lugi vote. Why is he you're vote?

[SoraAdvent]

jmo16mla replaces denisatp very quickly. Welcome him!

[Keybladewielder]

Welcome, jmo16mla

[jmo16mla]

Erm,
UNVOTE: myself

That's the first time I've ever had to do that.

Reading up.

[Keybladewielder]

Why would your predecessor vote for himself? Trying to earn town points by showing he's brave enough to vote himself without a wagon worry? I've got my eyes on you.

[jmo16mla]

Ok, not liking how everyone is blindly jumping on this wagon, including Chenoan. It's 4 pages in, and he's L-2. I think we need some unvotes. MonkeyMan and Chenoan jumping this wagon seem really bad on them, because

for Monkey: third to jump on. I usually see only 2, with third being scum. (I've done that before)
Chenoan: putting at L-2. simple as that

Unvote, vote: Chenoan

Chrnisn is voting monkey.

mod can you fix this?

Well, if you mean Chenoan, I noticed and yeah, changed his vote to MonkeyMan.~Sora

What's your opinion now kwb?

Not exactly why people are giving hoopla town reads four pages into the game. She's a good player. Suspicious of this.

[Keybladewielder]

Who's a good player?

I'm gonna keep my vote on Chenoan for now, see what results it gets out of everyone.

[Chenoan]

I don't even. KBW comes in and RVSes for no reason, then votes for me because of I guess a vote count error or something? But then when that is shown to be an error, he keeps his vote on me.

So he's voting me for literally no reason right now.'

KBW are you just VI or what? You make no sense.

[Chenoan]

Not misrepping, just pointing out that it's not a lot of content from you that I can use to get a read. It doesn't make you scum or town, which is the issue. Hopefully pointing it out is all I need to do to fix it.

Okay, I tend to throw the term misrep around a lot. So. Yea.

However I stand by that I have a decent amount of content right now for how early in game it is, including in that post. But what exactly do you mean by "fix it"? I'm not sure what needs to be fixed since what I did was assess the game so far, and ask questions about things that confused me or that I thought stood out.

No one's answered me yet with a reason for why that wagon happened so fast, btw.

[Chenoan]

you know what i think you and monkeyman are working together because you have been really quite this whole time

... I was on V/LA? Also the game has been going for like 2 days. And I posted the first day. So I'm really confused.

Also how does that tie me to monkeyman, of all people? O_o

You're making really random accusations.

[Doc Holliday]

Ok, not liking how everyone is blindly jumping on this wagon, including Chenoan. It's 4 pages in, and he's L-2. I think we need some unvotes. MonkeyMan and Chenoan jumping this wagon seem really bad on them, because

for Monkey: third to jump on. I usually see only 2, with third being scum. (I've done that before)
Chenoan: putting at L-2. simple as that

Unvote, vote: Chenoan

Your numbers don't add up and you seem to be mixing wagons up. Either way, L-3 is not the 'hey this is alarming' stage.

Failure to critically analyze posts and eagerness to pull people off of a wagon, smells like a scumbuddy. Stayin on enomis for now, but put a pin in this theory

[Chenoan]

Why would your predecessor vote for himself? Trying to earn town points by showing he's brave enough to vote himself without a wagon worry? I've got my eyes on you.

As much as I'm wont to ask you a question about why your predecessor would do something... self-voting is really odd. An answer to this question would be appreciated by me too.

[Keybladewielder]

What the hell? It's page 4 and I can't help it if Sora accidentally messed up the VC. L-2 is alarming for any player, town or scum this early in game. Either way Chenoan was still briefly on the wagon, right now everyone from the their person to vote Emilia (that's Monkey) to the most recent person to vote him are still in my scum radar zone. Give me one reason that a page 4 L-2 or even L-3 on ANYONE is good.

[MonkeyMan576]

Because enomis is reacting poorly to pressure. Voting is what you do with scum.

[Keybladewielder]

So? I react poorly to pressure in practically every game I've ever played. 85-15 times I'm town. I ironically act less poorly to pressure when I'm scum than town.

[MonkeyMan576]

So you're saying reacting poorly to pressure is a towntell.

If you're not going to make people accountable for their actions there's no point in playing.