Mini 1456: Revenge (Game Over!)

[Keybladewielder]

No, I'm saying everyone is different. Monkey is leaning scum each post.

[Chenoan]

What the hell? It's page 4 and I can't help it if Sora accidentally messed up the VC. L-2 is alarming for any player, town or scum this early in game. Either way Chenoan was still briefly on the wagon, right now everyone from the their person to vote Emilia (that's Monkey) to the most recent person to vote him are still in my scum radar zone. Give me one reason that a page 4 L-2 or even L-3 on ANYONE is good.

I what?

...

Did you even read any of my posts. Like at all? The only votes I've had out were an RVS on Elyse and a current vote on Monkeyman. So what are you on about?

I agree that early wagons are bad when they're for no reason. Which is why I questioned the enomis wagon. But you're throwing about accusations and stuff with absolutely no basis which is just as questionable.

What's your deal?

[Chenoan]

I agree that Monkey's scummy right now though. But not because he's pressuring you.

Because he's ignoring the cases against him.

for someone who seems to think people should be accountable to their actions you're ignoring anyone calling you out on yours, Monkey. Why is that?

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm not ignoring them, they're just wrong. I haven't done anything scummy, calling someone town that is acting town is pro-town.

[Nul]

vote null

because i hate random voting it give the mafia to much time to role fish in my ex.

I think he means he is voting NO ONE. Not that is he is voting me. Notice how he used double L, NULL instead of NUL. This would explain his second statement. By the way can anyone give me a summary of what's going on at the moment?

[enomis]

Seriously? Because while drawing conclusions using logic and evidence is the foundation of the game, leapin wildly to them is incredibly counter-productive. Observe the absurdly premature clearing of Hoopla by monkeyman. Hoopla's attitude conforms to a certain Townish perspective, but it is by no means strong enough to clear him. It disregards to fact that Hoopla is highly experienced and clever, and quite capable of faking a mild Town-tell. Monkeyman has leapt wildly to a conclusion, which has the possibility of allowing scum to skate by on a free Townread.

Asking stupid and obvious questions will not redirect attention from your eyebrow-raising overreaction to being voted.

Then you expect 13 of us to sit down and wait for Solid evidence to Poof and appear when we were on page 2? You expect us to scumhunt with no information? Ok. Legit.

Random Elyse vs Mario tension is random. Either town v town or maybe forced distancing. I can't decide.

Why not Town x Scum? Unless you have information we don't have? Hmmmm...

@KBW: Go Read the First few pages... It looks like you are doing some half-hearted scum-hunting effort... Not even bothering to read the first few pages.... The voting count thing and you are asking blue yoshi reasons for his RVS vote? What?

@MonkeyMan: You seem terribly convinced that I'm Scum. I take from your tone that you are 90% sure?

[mario and lugi]

nul

your right i voted for no one in random voting stage because it was a waste as you can see with everyone ban wagon voting monkeyman.

[MonkeyMan576]

Seriously? Because while drawing conclusions using logic and evidence is the foundation of the game, leapin wildly to them is incredibly counter-productive. Observe the absurdly premature clearing of Hoopla by monkeyman. Hoopla's attitude conforms to a certain Townish perspective, but it is by no means strong enough to clear him. It disregards to fact that Hoopla is highly experienced and clever, and quite capable of faking a mild Town-tell. Monkeyman has leapt wildly to a conclusion, which has the possibility of allowing scum to skate by on a free Townread.

Asking stupid and obvious questions will not redirect attention from your eyebrow-raising overreaction to being voted.

Then you expect 13 of us to sit down and wait for Solid evidence to Poof and appear when we were on page 2? You expect us to scumhunt with no information? Ok. Legit.

Random Elyse vs Mario tension is random. Either town v town or maybe forced distancing. I can't decide.

Why not Town x Scum? Unless you have information we don't have? Hmmmm...

@KBW: Go Read the First few pages... It looks like you are doing some half-hearted scum-hunting effort... Not even bothering to read the first few pages.... The voting count thing and you are asking blue yoshi reasons for his RVS vote? What?

@MonkeyMan: You seem terribly convinced that I'm Scum. I take from your tone that you are 90% sure?

You've done two scummy things in my book. It's still Day 1, so I'd say I am about 50% sure you are scum. That's about 5 times as scummy as anyone else on my scum-dar though.

[enomis]

nul

your right i voted for no one in random voting stage because it was a waste as you can see with everyone ban wagon voting monkeyman.

So What ya read? I thought you think chenoan and monkey is working together? Why not vote one of them? Why are you sitting on the fence?

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: monkey man

The above post has town vibes.

[Keybladewielder]

Ypure right Chenoan and enomis, I made a mistake

Unvote, Vote: Monkeyman

for reasons I've already stated and states by others

[enomis]

UNVOTE: MonkeyMan576
Don't like this wagon.

[Keybladewielder]

This isn't a wagon. This is a genuine scumhunt case. enomis jumping off a wagon this early on a legit case seems fishy, as well.

[enomis]

This isn't a wagon. This is a genuine scumhunt case. enomis jumping off a wagon this early on a legit case seems fishy, as well.

You say this isn't a wagon then say enomis is jumping off a wagon.... OK. Nah. Don't feel like he is scum. The case is weak too.

[Keybladewielder]

Ok, my mistake there.

[jmo16mla]

I'm not ignoring them, they're just wrong. I haven't done anything scummy, calling someone town that is acting town is pro-town.

So if someone acts pro town 3 pages into a game, they are town?

You're calling people town this early and I've done it as scum to buddy early on. I wouldn't put this past you.

Do you typically give people town reads early on in games?

[Nul]

@Doc Holiday, would you be happy with an enomis lynch? And what is your read on Chenoan?

[Keybladewielder]

Monkeyman is pretty high on my scum list right now. Elyse, what's your opinion of him?

[Hoopla]

i like enomis' unvote

UNVOTE:
VOTE: keyblade

sup

[Hoopla]

I feel like mario and lugi is going to be impossible for me to read this game, as I wifom myself into guessing the level he is thinking on, which is masked by the language barrier and his seemingly random lines of thought.

I was initially vibing with the Monkey wagon, but a lot of people I'm mildly suspicious of or at least have as null seem pretty eager to jump on it. Occam's Razor: Monkeyman is scum and a bunch of us see it as once? There is scum in the mix influencing the wagon?

Right now, I think the latter.

[Keybladewielder]

I didn't jump on it, I started it. What makes you think I'm scum.

[Blue Yoshi]

also, Yoshi, elaborate on your Mario and lugi vote. Why is he you're vote?

Mostly he is making no sense, but the way he's doing it makes it seem like he just wants to lynch the person that has the biggest bandwagon.

vote null

because i hate random voting it give the mafia to much time to role fish in my ex.

Putting nul at L-3, and apparently not a random vote.

@ blue yoshi yes it does give the mafia time to role fish as you can see from

enomis post #57

he voted for monkey man..

Implying enomis is scum, with him being at L-4. Not voting but clearly showing that he would.

you know what i think you and monkeyman are working together because you have been really quite this whole time

Says both chenoan (who was v/la) and monkeyman (who is at L-4) are scum.

To me this just seems like opportunism, considering he's already nailed 4 people as scum, so he'll join any bandwagon he wants.

Consider my vote no longer random.

[Hoopla]

I didn't jump on it, I started it. What makes you think I'm scum.

No you didn't?

Didn't like your vote. And I think your reactions have been weird, despite the meta you've claimed. They seem overly defensive, and that mindset trickles over into a few of your accusations - stuff like...

Why would your predecessor vote for himself? Trying to earn town points by showing he's brave enough to vote himself without a wagon worry? I've got my eyes on you.

...seems like scum overcompensating, and I think novice liars tend to behave that way.

[Elyse]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BlueYoshi

Terrible, terrible vote on mario and lugi. Did you even read the game? He stated that he voted "null" as not voting. You also assume that he would vote for enomis when he didn't and never said he would.

It's obvious that he isn't an A-lister as far as skill and communication are concerned. He only said that he thinks two people are working together. One of your assumptions is flat out wrong, and the other you interpreted wrong.

Your vote seems like you don't want to ruffle any feathers and go for the easy lynch.

Also KBW seems off to me this game.

[Keybladewielder]

Somebody's being aggressive... And I'm almost positive I started it.

2nd part: Or, it could just be a player who's finally starting to get good at the game scumhunting.

Pedit: How am I off Elyse?