Mini 1456: Revenge (Game Over!)

[Hoopla]

I like Elyse's #123. BlueYoshi is a good vote.

[Nul]

@Doc Holiday, would you be happy with an enomis lynch? And what is your read on Chenoan?

Doc, please respond. I know you're online.

[Doc Holliday]

@Doc Holiday, would you be happy with an enomis lynch? And what is your read on Chenoan?

As I said very early in the enosis wagon, I think he's reacting very badly to pressure and not getting better. Squirming under the spotlight and splitting hairs is not a way to redeem oneself.

Chenoan is pretty null for me. Not really getting the wagon.

KBW is really confusing. I get a chain sawing kind of vibe from him defending one of the wagons, but he's so incoherent I'm not even sure who he's defending. Leaning towards a scum buddy suspicion.

Monkeyman seems null-Town to me. The people voting him seem to be focusing to on scummy things, but rather on the low-hanging fruit of his oddities and idiosyncrasies.

Elyse's post just now was good

PE: Already was writing it. Town points for caring enough to pay attention. Scum are more likely to fire and forget their challenges

[Elyse]

@KBW
I don't know. Your posting is different or something.

[Chenoan]

I'm not ignoring them, they're just wrong. I haven't done anything scummy, calling someone town that is acting town is pro-town.

Not acknowledging votes and arguments on you doesn't count as ignoring them?

Seems legit.

[mario and lugi]

@ everyone i'm not voting till you can prove you are lyching scum and not a town member. because if you lynch a townie then the scum will have a chance to pick one of us off in the night phase so pick you victum carfully.

[Hoopla]

the wifom begins. i think mario is town...

[jmo16mla]

@ everyone i'm not voting till you can prove you are lyching scum and not a town member. because if you lynch a townie then the scum will have a chance to pick one of us off in the night phase so pick you victum carfully.

You realize even if we lynch scum, they can still kill one of us as night?

Even if we lynch scum twice in a row, they can still NK us.

[Keybladewielder]

the wifom begins. i think mario is town...

Care to tell us why?

[Hoopla]

His post 130.

I think he believes what he's saying - so why all of a sudden chime in with that as scum? That'd be a really random, non-sequitur lie for the sake of it. I reckon he's genuinely concerned about it, no matter how misguided and wrong it actually is.

[Zionite]

That's how I've been reading it as well. It doesn't even make a difference trying to explain how it's wrong, but it reads as genuine.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Blue Yoshi

[SoraAdvent]

Strangely though, instead of looking for evidence of WHO-FRICKIN'-KILLED me, they're analyzing people inside out. What are they thinking?

Votecount 1.4

Voting Nul

-mario and lugi(L-6)

Voting MonkeyMan576

-Chenoan, jmo16mla, Keybladewielder(L-4)

Voting mario and lugi

-Blue Yoshi(L-6)

Voting Doc Holliday

-Nul(L-6)

Voting enomis

-MonkeyMan576, Doc Holliday(L-5)

Voting Keybladewielder-

Hoopla(L-6)

Voting Blue Yoshi-

Elyse, Zionite(L-5)

Not voting

-Chevre, enomis

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in eleven days from now: June 7th, at my former post's(read first post) hour.

No mod announcements, yay!

EDIT: Fixed.

[Keybladewielder]

Hoopla, I want a logical explanation of your vote.

[Keybladewielder]

Hoopla, I want a logical explanation of your vote.

[mario and lugi]

@ everyone i know if we lynch a scum they can still kill us at night but then the cop or doctor could act if i read my rules correctly ? then things are more or less easier with lynching scum but if your if your wrong our mod could allow the rear double night kill. i know as a new player there is a slim chance i'm wrong but its 50-50 with this call right or wrong ?

[jmo16mla]

I don even understand the question man.

[Chevre]

Back from V/LA!

First of all, I'd like to say that before the game started I tried to read games with members of the playerlist in them. I didn't get to everyone, but I did read Mini 1426, which had Blue Yoshi, Elyse, and Keybladewielder in it. If they had anything interesting to say about that game, that'd be lovely.

I like this one.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: enomis

No.

I don't like this.

Elyse

, what don't you like about this? The wagon forming on enomis, his response, or something else? From your later reaction, I assume it was enomis's reaction, but let's make sure.

@ zionite

your not going to get a read on me this is my second game here.. [...]

I find this suspicious. It feels like mario and lugi is saying "nyah nyah nyah, you won't catch me through meta!"

Don't like enomis' reaction, monkeyman's was fine, if very premature.

Doc Holliday

, What reaction of MonkeyMan's are you speaking of? enomis was reacting to a wagon on him, but I see no similar phenomenon with MonkeyMan576.

Chenoan's Post 73 stood out to me as fishy for some reason, but Zionite nailed the reason in Post 75: It's a lot of questions and contemplation with few actual stances.

Chenoan

, how do you feel about the answers to the questions you posed in 73? Did you glean any useful information?

Ok, not liking how everyone is blindly jumping on this wagon, including Chenoan. It's 4 pages in, and he's L-2. I think we need some unvotes. MonkeyMan and Chenoan jumping this wagon seem really bad on them, because

Keybladewielder

, why did you single out the MonkeyMan576 wagon when both Nul and enomis had also experienced wagons of equal or greater votes?

So you're saying reacting poorly to pressure is a towntell.

If you're not going to make people accountable for their actions there's no point in playing.

Or, it could be that reactions to pressure is not a reliable scumtell. Personally I agree with Keybladewielder and think it depends on the player.

Keybladewielder

, what do you think of Chenoan's question in 91 that you are a VI?

Nul

, could you answer the same questions you posed to Doc Holliday? For reference: would you be happy with an enomis lynch, and what is your read on Chenoan?

VOTE: Chenoan. This is mostly gut right now. I don't really like the way he's responding to pressure, and no one else stands out at the moment. I might vote Keybladewielder, but after seeing his play in 1426 I'm hesitant. I agree with others that mario and lugi's bolded demands, though illogical, seem genuine.

[Keybladewielder]

ok, so. first, im singling out the enomis wagon. I don't like how almost everyone jumped on it.

and second, chenoan is just a jerk all around. ever since I met him, he's been rude to me.

mini 1426... hell's bottom, right?

[Chevre]

OK. Even so, what legitimizes the MonkeyMan576 wagon? The Nul one I'm much less concerned about since it was quite obviously RVS, but I want to know why you think the MM576 wagon and the enomis wagon are different.

Yes. 1426 is Hell's Bottom.

[Keybladewielder]

I'm just suspicious of Monkey jumping on a wagon being the third. this early on, one or two on a wagon is ok, but monkey was third. I've seen scum do this a lot.

[Chevre]

That seems like an interesting conjecture. Can you show me some examples in other games?

[Zionite]

3rd on the wagon can be a tell but it's not a very reliable one. I've seen town and scum do it. Why is it this 3rd vote thing that's scummy and not the other aspects of his play?

[Keybladewielder]

No, I can't show examples, I don't look at past games - and most are offsite

[Doc Holliday]

@Chevre-Monkeyman saying Hoopla is Town was criticized, but I thought it was just fine

[Doc Holliday]

Stupidly premature, but not scummy