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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 6:21 am

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^ Mod, this is not role related question
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 6:59 am

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Hypothetically, if someone were to die D1 via a killing action, D1 would continue with a reset vote count.
"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 7:02 am

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Thanks MOD, this is what i needed to know.

Who's your information is now contradicting... what is your explanation?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 7:11 am

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In my role PM, the verb for what happens to my target is "lynch" and not "kill".
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 7:24 am

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The Wiki says..
The Executioner is a role designed to stop mass roleclaiming. Working similar to a vigilante,
the executioner is able to kill a person who has acquired half-the required lynch votes on a given day. Typically speaking, this ends the day and begins the night phase.
The Executioner may be either town or mafia,
but is traditionally a mafia role.
Depending on the game, this kill may or may not count as a lynch, so it may or may not be subject to a governor's pardon.
Also the executioner is usually prohibited from using this ability during consecutive days, or can only use it a certain number of times in the game. It doesn't work against bulletproof individuals, and a bomb hit by an execution blows up the executioner.
I found few interesting theories on Wiki page about Executioner. Firstly I no longer believe that your role could be verifiable becuz, Executioner can also be a mafia role, considering that town has Governer ability, I am leaning to believe that there may be a high possiblity that WHO could be the mafia Cult Leader with an Executioner ability.

Now I actually feel this setup makes more sense.... Imagnie what is the use of GOVERNER? If the players all decided to wagon up and lynch a player. Why would CL does quick hammer someone and makes him/her as obvious suspect? But an Executioner can always PM MOD and cause an execution which can only be stopped by GOVERNER. This is a perfect balance.

Don't be stuborn please, and listen to me carefully. Becuz I am a town player. and it should makes sense to you about WHO's soft claim on Day zero that his role could be verified, this way he was trying to earn the town cred so that he won't be the lynch target.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:02 am

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In post 267, TheIrishPope wrote:I am a bit hesitant on AA9's death myself. We have time still, so no worries.
In post 266, Who wrote: Pope: Doc defends him well.
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I would not see you as probable town by myself, but given what Doc has said about newscum, I see you as probable town.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:44 am

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Let me get this straight - Angel has now called two people out on claiming roles that are slightly different from the common version listed on the wiki. What, are we both supposed to be independent CLs? That's the only way wed both have something to gain by lying.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 9:54 am

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DOC - STOP Derping!!! Its annoying now!!!

Governor V/S Scum Executioner , what could be the better balance. Why it is so hard for you to even listen?
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 10:24 am

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First, this is not totally standard mafia.
Second, how that would go:
Day 0: We elect a governor
Day 1: Executioner executes, governor stops it, 4/1
Night 1: CL recruits, 3/2
Day 2: Townies question what is going on, Cultist votes, Executioner votes, Executioner executes. 2/2
Cult wins.
Finally, why are you still alive if I am scum executioner?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 10:49 am

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^Exactly

Who is Town
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:28 am

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In post 283, Who wrote:First, this is not totally standard mafia.
Second, how that would go:
Day 0: We elect a governor
Day 1: Executioner executes, governor stops it, 4/1
Night 1: CL recruits, 3/2
Day 2: Townies question what is going on, Cultist votes, Executioner votes, Executioner executes. 2/2
Cult wins.
Finally, why are you still alive if I am scum executioner?
Becuz Governer can stop the execution... and more over i don't believe that this execution would take the day to night 1, so you need another mislynch to win the game...

And your obvious next target is either pope or Doc.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:30 am

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In post 284, Doc Holliday wrote:^Exactly

Who is Town
It wasn't your question, don't post fluff in between.
If you can't make a reasonable case, just sit quite.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:38 am

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AND GUYS BELIEVE ME OR NOT.. THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE

I know Chk very well.. I was so confused and angry with the setup at the begining when he said that we need to elect a GOVERNOR, QWhy the hell we need Governor in this game when this is a cult setup??? It just doesn't make sense to me. Its not like Cult leader would be idiot enough to jump in and quick hammer some one , Isn't it?

the obvious GOVERNOR play in this game is to stop the unexpected Executioner KILL.

And WHO planned it so well that if he could convince Town that some how he could have town believe him that it is poosibel to verify his role as town, Town will end up mislynching someone. Who wouldn't win this game just by executing, He needs another kill or recruit..

And His plan is to execute and call up a mislych while he can be shadown himself in the fake town reference...

And the only reason Who couldn't execute me.. A) I haven't reach the half a votes yet B) and if executes me withoug town's approval, Governor can stop the execution and he knew he would get lynched right away..
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:17 pm

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Candillan, I meant waiting for chk to answer Angel's questions :P
What is this discussion of two CLs?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 1:12 pm

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I think Angel's calling Who's role the potential CL role.
Which is odd, considering the fact that both your role AND Who's role are primarily given to scum. For that reason, I doubt either of you are scum.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 1:26 pm

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Candillan,

you want to read the below.. the bold is exactly is what stated in my profile that it may be possible that i might end giving my an additional PR to CL, in those case i wouldn't know what it does to them... and it also makes sense to me that your fisher man role likely possible in this game along with the Inventor.
Setup-wise, an Inventor fills the same niche that a Jack of All Trades does: they are less powerful, but more versatile, than other equivalent power roles because the gadgets that they give out are one-shot.
However, an Inventor is usually weaker than an equivalent Jack of All Trades. This is a combination of both the possibility that an Inventor gives a gadget to the Mafia instead of Town, and the fact that an Inventor may not know the effect of the gadget they are giving.

Inventors that are not False are confirmable upon their claim, especially if they have given Inventions to multiple living players.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 2:39 pm

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You are not confirmable though, given how you haven't given any inventions to anyone and if we don't lynch anyone today the cult almost certainly wins.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 2:43 pm

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Mmmmkay
Who, are you still thinking or reconsidering or waiting or something?
What are your thoughts right now?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 2:47 pm

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I am waiting for you and Candillan to approve. At this point I find it very hard to believe that Angel is not scum, but I'll wait for everybody to see it that way before voting and executing.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 3:03 pm

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It's up to Candillan, really. He is the Governor after all.
I'm still not totally convinced, but it is our best bet.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 4:17 pm

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In post 293, Who wrote:I am waiting for you and Candillan to approve. At this point I find it very hard to believe that Angel is not scum, but I'll wait for everybody to see it that way before voting and executing.
Approve? why are faking it? You can't execute until there are half votes on me.. So NO, you can't kill me right now until there is another vote..

it would be such tragic that this town can't see the obvious, this is whole level of derping.... huh
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 4:21 pm

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I take offense in that.
VOTE: Angel
Who, let's do this once and for all.
just the tIP
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 4:25 pm

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^ SCREW you POPE, who cares how you feel...
do you realize how pathetic you're at this game ?. Shame on you and you're going to fucking loose this game big time... I feel terrible for signing this game with the bunch of NOOB players...
I am done defending..... OUT OF HERE!!!!!!
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 4:26 pm

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When I flip town after execution.. Lynch the shit out of the WHO!!!
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 5:19 pm

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Wait what the fudge just happened

You know what fine go ahead
If doc was CL color me not surprised wheeeee

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