Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)


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Post Post #3350 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 9:48 am

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I'm not sure. He has been saying he is out of it this entire time, so he has his excuse. I've made mistakes like that all the time as town. I will be rereading the whole thread tomorrow. For now, I can see it just being a miscount. That is to say, him derping it up.

But it could be a scum derp. From what I can understand he is going forward with the proposition that the last scum are within that field of players. He might have simply meant to write: "The hypothesis that the the team is within these three players"

Or something to that effect.

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jon_h61 (L-2): Remembrance, pirate mollie

Not Voting: buldermar, jon_h61

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is on Thursday, May 30th, at 10:00 PM EST.
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Post Post #3351 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 9:57 am

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@Rem : K, that question deserve an answer, that is how you play. Perhaps it will help you generate your read in IaI. I hope it can...

I really don't see the pattern how Nacho play, even though I like to spectating his game. But, I think it was serious. Even though it tried to see other people's reaction, it still a read. Stubborn is how I play in mafia also.

I'm really not sure about Jon's slot. Bork dislike this game, so I consider his play. Rubicon also busy, so I consider it again. Meh... Probably Jon like to vote IaI I think. His flip-flop perhaps because he replaced with 125++ pages. Indeed we need someone to trust to read more easily in that condition.

I think your question is meta things, not a WIFOM. Self-meta isn't going to help IMO, you need to know his meta. I always allow WIFOM around because I like them. You can see that in day 3, I and IaI discuss about the night kill, all of them are WIFOMs.

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So, about Jon. Let me seek for a while.

So, in post #3178 and #3187, Jon speculating about our role. Actually, all the roles already outed, especially to mafias. If Jon is scum, then he know what the fuck is my role without reading, but he still speculating it (and his speculation was wrong). Maybe he know this so he forced to post this, but post #3178 seems not contrived because it is big post. Dunno then...

Any way, if I'm right about the time, there is 18 hours? I probably sleep first right now. Will check again after wake up.
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Post Post #3352 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 10:17 am

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Why would he know that?

He knows the number of roles, but not who has them unless he read your claim. For example, he assumed you were a cop. Instead of a doc and that someone must have fake claimed. But where does that assumption come from?
Rubicon made the same assumption strange, I didn't understand it then either.
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Post Post #3353 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 10:18 am

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*strange assumption
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Post Post #3354 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:30 am

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I'm going to die today by some means, so bring it on! Town will have to know scum was in on this kill. It just may be better if I'm the lynch. It may make narrowing the scum down easier. But I can't self vote, it's against my win condition.
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Post Post #3355 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:34 am

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How about this, I DARE YOU to vote me. Nobody can resist a dare.


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Post Post #3356 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:54 am

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Why did you assume Se-asians was a cop? Jon?
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Post Post #3357 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:57 am

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All I ever said was he was a N5 PR. I never, ever said anything else. If I even insinuated it, you'll have to show me, because I sure don't remember it.
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Post Post #3358 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 11:59 am

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In post 2912, Remembrance wrote:From what I remember:

Day 1: Nacho(doc), Rem(Doc), Mollie(cop).
Day 2: Rach(cop), buldermar(doc), Kuror(cop), IaI (cop)
Day 3: Wisdom (doc), HD(cop)
Day 4: Rubi (cop)
Day 5: Se-Asians(?)

Mantis(?)

If SE is claiming a N-5 PR, one of our cops is lying about being a cop.
It also means I won't get an investigation tonight. To keep from getting too big a headache outta this mess, I may just lend my vote to my biggest Town read (Buldemar). Would prefer IAI or koror0.
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Post Post #3359 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:00 pm

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You wrote that bolded part, my bad. I fucked up that quote.
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Post Post #3360 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:00 pm

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List of roles is mine, text below is yours.
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Post Post #3361 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:11 pm

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@ SE tomorrow's the deadline, but we don't have to wait to the very last minute.

Fluff - I'm interested to see what Majiffy has for my flavor.
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Post Post #3362 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:12 pm

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Um. Are you ignoring me?
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Post Post #3363 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:14 pm

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You're okay with being lynched even though the play isn't optimal for town?
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Post Post #3364 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:14 pm

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This is a pretty awful, awful bluff because it's ignoring your POV.

Which you kept forgetting anyway. :neutral:
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Post Post #3365 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:16 pm

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I'm sorry, did you ask me something? I'm tired right now and may have missed it.

pedit Well I don't really know what else to argue. And I know scum will have to be in on my lynch, but you all will have to figure that out. Good luck
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Post Post #3366 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:16 pm

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No, no bluff, you'll see when I go.
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Post Post #3367 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:17 pm

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In post 3361, jon_h61 wrote:Fluff - I'm interested to see what Majiffy has for my flavor.
I have an excellent interview between Thompson and Buchanan at the end of Campaign Trail '72 that I'll probably use.
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Post Post #3368 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:18 pm

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In post 3364, Remembrance wrote:This is a pretty awful, awful bluff because it's ignoring your POV.
Explain

pedit cool, I'm looking forward to the after game material
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Post Post #3369 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:21 pm

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I actually grew up watching all the campaigning on TV. My family were big Nixon fans before Watergate. Watched that too.
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Post Post #3370 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:21 pm

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Assuming, you're town for a moment They're not going to use much reasoning because of the deadline. :/ we're not going to catch scum jumping on you, we can't pull them to the side of the road and interrogate them that well right now.
Why are you okay with being lynched when it is not optimal for the town to do so. You should be arguing.
Second, why did you assume Se-Asians was a cop. And why did you react the way you did to me accusing you of it?
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Post Post #3371 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:23 pm

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It's a bad bluff because if it's not a bluff it's anti-town.

You know you are town. Why are you okay with putting us in a mylo situation?
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Post Post #3372 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:31 pm

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Remembrance, I don't really want to be lynched, but I'm certain I'll be NKd. Maybe you can just call it resignation that I'm out of the game, by the deadline one way or another. I'd think the players that have a better chance of being here tomorrow would be on here trying to figure out what they're gonna do tomorrow. All I'll be able to do is cheer them on from heaven, or hell, which ever I end up in. :)
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Post Post #3373 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:34 pm

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Yes, but how you die actually affects our chances of winning or losing.
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Post Post #3374 (ISO) » Wed May 29, 2013 12:36 pm

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In post 3370, Remembrance wrote:Second, why did you assume Se-Asians was a cop
I don't even know where you're getting this. there are only three claimed docs, so the only thing SE could be is a... N5 PR. :P

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