Mini 1452 - Inevitable Mafia (Game Over)

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

Bah.

I apologize for not being active up to my death, I was in the hospital getting my appendix removed

Sorry for not being townier, I guess.

GL town

[RadiantCowbells]

I shot Rob13. So, four possibilities:

1) Mafia killing role was roleblocked last night.
2) Mafia chose to attack the same target to introduce doubt as to my alignment.
3) Mafia chose to kill Rob13 because they thought I was going to kill Gorckat.
4) Someone received doctor protection.

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that number four is the most likely one, and me the most likely one to have been docced.
None of the options seem particularly likely.

If there is a doctor, I suggest that the doctor not claim unless he or his save is at threat of being lynched.

I am genuinely shocked at Rob13's town flip, but that was entirely his fault for tunneling me like a doughnut.
With a town confirmed in Rob13, I've lost alot of my enthusiasm for the CoolDog lynch.

VOTE: Yates

[Hoopla]

5) Mafia no-killed for wifom reasons
6) You're mafia

just to be conclusive.

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that number four is the most likely one, and me the most likely one to have been docced.

no you weren't, silly

[BROseidon]

RC, thanks for the claim. Going to obviously want you to claim an action each night.

VOTE: Yates I think at least one of Yates and gorckat is scum (everyone else on the letters wagon is either dead or among my strongest townreads).

[RadiantCowbells]

RC, thanks for the claim. Going to obviously want you to claim an action each night.

No, I won't. That would be stupid; I'll claim my next two actions on day four.

[RadiantCowbells]

I should explain this.

Unless the town as a whole requests I perform an action tonight, there's a 50% chance of me being immune to NK tonight.

If I claim an investigation tomorrow, mafia knows I'm night immune N3 and won't waste a shot.

If I claim to have commuted tomorrow, mafia knows that I'm vulnerable and investigating someone.

It's more logical for me to not say what I will do, clearly breadcrumb my n2 action for day 3 so no one claims opportunism, and only claim an investigation if it's to protect that person from being lynched.

Any disagreements?

[Hoopla]

i don't think you're in a position to call the shots here given how you've played so far.

i need to think about this.

[DCLXVI]

I don't like waiting till day four ... Potential lylo to wait for a cop result... That could get messy.

[CooLDoG]

Flavor placeholder.

Rob13 has died in the night. He was a

Townie.

It is now Day 2. With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch. The deadline is June 15th.

and what did I tell you guys. We wouldn't know if RC is confirmed or not because he told us his kill. Woopdie di da day. Fuck you guys for not listening to me.

vote: dcl

Should have done it yesterday, will do it today. This vote will not move.

I'm a VT by the way.

Because we should mass claim right fucking now.

So, uh. Shouldn't there have been two kills last night?

no. There should only be one kill. And that kill should be rob. As I fucking told you yesterday.

I think we should place a hold on mass-claiming till we here what radiant has to say.

Agree with this.

it won't fucking matter.

I shot Rob13. So, four possibilities:

1) Mafia killing role was roleblocked last night.
2) Mafia chose to attack the same target to introduce doubt as to my alignment.
3) Mafia chose to kill Rob13 because they thought I was going to kill Gorckat.
4) Someone received doctor protection.

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that number four is the most likely one, and me the most likely one to have been docced.

None of the options seem particularly likely.

If there is a doctor, I suggest that the doctor not claim unless he or his save is at threat of being lynched.

I am genuinely shocked at Rob13's town flip, but that was entirely his fault for tunneling me like a doughnut.
With a town confirmed in Rob13, I've lost alot of my enthusiasm for the CoolDog lynch.

VOTE: Yates

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RC, thanks for the claim. Going to obviously want you to claim an action each night.

No, I won't. That would be stupid; I'll claim my next two actions on day four.

you will not live to d4. If mafia can't get you lynched, they will kill you day 3 to prevent this. Didn't you learn anything from telegraphing your actions last time?

i don't think you're in a position to call the shots here given how you've played so far.

i need to think about this.

You need to think about this? Well for fucking starters he could have copped DCL instead of killing someone n1. Naturally we tell him what to do. What is there to think about? This guy belongs in EM games where he is told what to do. I don't think he knows how to play the game.

ALSO MASS CLAIM NOW

[Yates]

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that number four is the most likely one, and me the most likely one to have been docced.

LOL. This is a terrible assumption.

[Yates]

6) You're mafia

I find this explanation most likely.

[Hoopla]

You need to think about this? Well for fucking starters he could have copped DCL instead of killing someone n1. Naturally we tell him what to do. What is there to think about? This guy belongs in EM games where he is told what to do. I don't think he knows how to play the game.

what i'm thinking about is whether a full massclaim is optimal.

right now, i think the best play is massclaim minus the second mason, then assess the situation based on balance and other role claims. then once that has been done, we decide whether or not we want the second mason to claim - i'm not going to go into detail about what situations would or wouldn't be good times for the second mason to claim or not claim because there are a lot of variables, but i can think of a couple situations either way.

so, i think we should massclaim minus the second mason - whoever that mason is, if indeed it exists, should claim VT, everyone else claims as normal in order.

RadiantCowbells - JOAT
DCLXVI - Mason
CoolDog - VT

My proposed claim order for the rest:

Yates
gorckat
roflcopter
nhammen
jmo16mla
BROseidon
ThAdmiral

If people agree with that rough list (and the second mason not claiming), then you can all say where you want me to claim in that order.

[BROseidon]

I like the claim order. I would like you to claim right after jmo and before me.

[gorckat]

I prefer having the full DCL wagon at the top of the list, so me or Thad first and second.

[Hoopla]

fine by me

[RadiantCowbells]

Roflcopter should go later, and you should claim much earlier than Broseidon suggests.

huge wall from cooldog blah

There's no need to be such an asshole but you do have valid points and I will keep them in mind going forward.

I'll do my own thing from now on.

[Kitoari]

Votecount #7:
Yates - RadiantCowbells, Broseidon
DCLXVI - CooLDoG

Not voting - ThAdmiral, DCLXVI roflcopter, nhammen, jmo16mla, Yates, Hoopla, gorckat
With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lunch!

Deadline is June 15th.

[Yates]

I prefer having the full DCL wagon at the top of the list, so me or Thad first and second.

This is cool with me. Then I'd think popcorn. I don't see why we WOULDN'T popcorn the rest.

[jmo16mla]

No. No popcorn.

[Yates]

No. No popcorn.

Why not? You don't think popcorn favors Town and gives more info than a presorted list?

[jmo16mla]

I think if we can all agree on a pre sorted list, that works in towns favor rather than eventually, giving scum more of a chance to manipulate who claims when.

[DCLXVI]

I prefer popcorn claiming, I also agree with not having my partner claim.

[jmo16mla]

Why is popcorn better DCL?

[ThAdmiral]

Claim order is fine. Popcorn gets dredged down by people having to wait. This should run a little quicker.

[ThAdmiral]

Happy to kick things off.