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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:33 am

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In post 197, Nani wrote:What is this shit

Everyone does not want to get lynched. That is why more than half of the posts of this game are people DEFENDING from accusations, because guess what, regardless of alignment, a) everyone wants to keep playing and b)everyone wants to be perceived as town (yes even town).

This wagon is SHIT.
Not really, i dont mind if I get lynched because I know town will use the info and continue scum hunting and find the scum until the end, In both of my completed games I was NK'd on N1 yet we still won.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:36 am

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In post 200, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 197, Nani wrote:What is this shit

Everyone does not want to get lynched. That is why more than half of the posts of this game are people DEFENDING from accusations, because guess what, regardless of alignment, a) everyone wants to keep playing and b)everyone wants to be perceived as town (yes even town).

This wagon is SHIT.
Not really, i dont mind if I get lynched because I know town will use the info and continue scum hunting and find the scum until the end, In both of my completed games I was NK'd on N1 yet we still won.
Generally speaking (obviously it depends on circumstance) but getting NK'd is really a compliment as it shows that the scum team saw you as a threat, unless you dropped a really obvious PR crumb.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:37 am

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I disagree with this line of logic and makes me wonder if you are hunting real motivations or just theoretic bunch from Mafia 101.

Everyone in this game DOES mind if they get lynched.

Then we wouldn't spend posts on defending from accusations from another players.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:39 am

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Defending =/= Answering questions. You don't need to "defend" yourself if you're not in real danger, Stubbs wasn't in much danger until he slipped.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:40 am

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In post 202, Nani wrote:I disagree with this line of logic and makes me wonder if you are hunting real motivations or just theoretic bunch from Mafia 101.

Everyone in this game DOES mind if they get lynched.

Then we wouldn't spend posts on defending from accusations from another players.
That's funny, cause if you read my posts i spend little time defending your bullshit, and more time aggressively hunting for scum.

Also i love how your trying to destroy an argument based on it being "theoretic".
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:41 am

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Sakura. What slip?

What stubbs did was to post what everyone thinks: I don't want to get lynched.

It's a noob tell all the way.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:43 am

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In post 204, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 202, Nani wrote:I disagree with this line of logic and makes me wonder if you are hunting real motivations or just theoretic bunch from Mafia 101.

Everyone in this game DOES mind if they get lynched.

Then we wouldn't spend posts on defending from accusations from another players.
That's funny, cause if you read my posts i spend little time defending your bullshit, and more time aggressively hunting for scum.

Also i love how your trying to destroy an argument based on it being "theoretic".
The fact that you spend posts defending from my "bullshit" means that you care about not getting lynched. Just that posting that in a sentence is "the UTLIAMTE SCUMTELL!!!! 11111

Theory is bullshit.

Townies get lynched all the time for stupid stuff like appeal to emotion or newb card. Real motivation is my thing here. And not wantint to get lynched is as sincere as it can get, specially coming from a newb.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:46 am

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Nani wrote:
In post 204, JasonWazza wrote: The fact that you spend posts defending from my "bullshit" means that you care about not getting lynched. Just that posting that in a sentence is "the UTLIAMTE SCUMTELL!!!! 11111

Theory is bullshit.

Townies get lynched all the time for stupid stuff like appeal to emotion or newb card. Real motivation is my thing here. And not wantint to get lynched is as sincere as it can get, specially coming from a newb.
No it means i care if people misrepresent me to make my case seem less then it is.

Also what makes you think newb scum don't want to get lynched hmm?

I think someone is more motivated to white knight then to actually look for scum.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:47 am

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Ergh fucking quote tags.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:48 am

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In post 199, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 197, Nani wrote:What is this shit

Everyone does not want to get lynched. That is why more than half of the posts of this game are people DEFENDING from accusations, because guess what, regardless of alignment,
a) everyone wants to keep playing and b)everyone wants to be perceived as town (yes even town)
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This wagon is SHIT.
Bold: True but do they avoid being lynched NATURALLY, not by trying to avoid it.

Also yes nobody want's to be lynched, but scum want's to be lynched even less.


I don't like to speculate scum-teams early but this takes the cake for being partner if/when Stubbs flips scum.

P-Edit:
StubbsKVM wrote:
In post 188, ferretlover wrote:Wrong answer stubbs.

Jason has a townread.

VOTE: Stubbs

looks like you enjoy those wagons. hopping from one to another.
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Now you're just trying to push someone to hammer me.
Fair enough.
I don't think you would be pushing so hard on day 1 if you would be scum though. Unless you're really really stupid(or genious?)

About the newbie card: isn't this a newbie game?
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:50 am

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WTF are you doing Nani Jason is Town.

@Nani what are your thoughts about the Stubbs wagon?

PEdit: Stubbs newb card is blaming slips on being a newb.

it is a scumtell.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:50 am

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In post 207, JasonWazza wrote:
No it means i care if people misrepresent me to make my case seem less then it is.

Also what makes you think newb scum don't want to get lynched hmm?

I think someone is more motivated to white knight then to actually look for scum.
Are you done making shitty remarks about my play and trying to see if they stick in the wall? Is it a coincidence that my efforts of looking for scum are wanting to get you lynched=?

Regarding newb scum. Newb scum also don't want to get lynched. My point is that all players (yes even newbs) don't want to get lynched. Thatt is because this "dont want to get lynched" is a null telll and not a scum tell.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:52 am

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In post 210, ferretlover wrote: @Nani what are your thoughts about the Stubbs wagon?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:52 am

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I'm gonna do a little test for you Nani.

What is my motivation as scum, to be the third highest poster in this game with 10 or so hours of joining it?

What is my motivation as scum, to get the town actually making content?

What is my motivation as scum, to aggressively push the people who are here to actually scumhunt?

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StubbsKVM wrote: Now you're just trying to push someone to hammer me.
Fair enough.
I don't think you would be pushing so hard on day 1 if you would be scum though. Unless you're really really stupid(or genious?)

About the newbie card: isn't this a newbie game?
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I'm pushing you to make REAL content and not just crap that you don't pressure or do anything about.

Also yes this is a newbie game SO YOU DON'T NEED TO POINT OUT YOUR A NEWB

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Nani wrote:
In post 207, JasonWazza wrote:
No it means i care if people misrepresent me to make my case seem less then it is.

Also what makes you think newb scum don't want to get lynched hmm?

I think someone is more motivated to white knight then to actually look for scum.
Are you done making shitty remarks about my play and trying to see if they stick in the wall? Is it a coincidence that my efforts of looking for scum are wanting to get you lynched=?

Regarding newb scum. Newb scum also don't want to get lynched. My point is that all players (yes even newbs) don't want to get lynched. Thatt is because this "dont want to get lynched" is a null telll and not a scum tell.
There's 2 scum round here, your not doing much to find the other even if you have me pinned to a wall.

And it's quite possible Stubbs is newb scum, and that is how i read him.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:53 am

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I want ALL of your thoughts; maybe, for instance, about the players on the wagon? Anything else?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:56 am

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Nani's putting herself on the line to make my case.
That's the ultimate town tell.

UNVOTE: Nani

Sakura and Ferret jumping the wagon immediately raises some question marks.
Ferret has done this multiple times already so I'm going for him for now.

VOTE: Ferretlover
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:57 am

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And your case on me is?
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:58 am

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Oh, I understand. OMGUS'ing, eh?
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 215, StubbsKVM wrote:Nani's putting herself on the line to make my case.
That's the ultimate town tell.
No, No it's not.

It's called White Knighting and i will tell you why it's scummy

Player A is town, he does something scummy and Players start voting him, Player B is scum, and he knows that Player A is town so he starts defending him for when Player A finally gets lynched, as there is generally a decent amount of town credit for defending a town player.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 213, JasonWazza wrote:I'm gonna do a little test for you Nani.

What is my motivation as scum, to be the third highest poster in this game with 10 or so hours of joining it?

What is my motivation as scum, to get the town actually making content?

What is my motivation as scum, to aggressively push the people who are here to actually scumhunt?
- High posting is not indicative of alignment. Your fist vote was on MasterMew who was a very active player. Try again.

- Get the town to actually make content is not indicative of alignment. Your fist vote was on MasterMew who was also good on making people to posts.Try again.

- Agressively push the people who are here to actually scumhunt is not indicative of alignment. I really don't get this but I'm sure it's also not indicative of alignment.

This is exactly the bunch of theory crap that makes town lose so many games.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:00 am

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In post 218, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 215, StubbsKVM wrote:Nani's putting herself on the line to make my case.
That's the ultimate town tell.
No, No it's not.

It's called White Knighting and i will tell you why it's scummy

Player A is town, he does something scummy and Players start voting him, Player B is scum, and he knows that Player A is town so he starts defending him for when Player A finally gets lynched, as there is generally a decent amount of town credit for defending a town player.
WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

Are yopu implying that I am scum here and that Stubbs is town here?

Then why the fuck are you voting Stubbs?
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:02 am

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In post 220, Nani wrote:
In post 218, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 215, StubbsKVM wrote:Nani's putting herself on the line to make my case.
That's the ultimate town tell.
No, No it's not.

It's called White Knighting and i will tell you why it's scummy

Player A is town, he does something scummy and Players start voting him, Player B is scum, and he knows that Player A is town so he starts defending him for when Player A finally gets lynched, as there is generally a decent amount of town credit for defending a town player.
WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

Are yopu implying that I am scum here and that Stubbs is town here?

Then why the fuck are you voting Stubbs?
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:02 am

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COnfirm VOTE: JASON


Now that IS A SLIP.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:03 am

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In post 219, Nani wrote:
In post 213, JasonWazza wrote:I'm gonna do a little test for you Nani.

What is my motivation as scum, to be the third highest poster in this game with 10 or so hours of joining it?

What is my motivation as scum, to get the town actually making content?

What is my motivation as scum, to aggressively push the people who are here to actually scumhunt?
- High posting is not indicative of alignment. Your fist vote was on MasterMew who was a very active player. Try again.

- Get the town to actually make content is not indicative of alignment. Your fist vote was on MasterMew who was also good on making people to posts.Try again.

- Agressively push the people who are here to actually scumhunt is not indicative of alignment. I really don't get this but I'm sure it's also not indicative of alignment.

This is exactly the bunch of theory crap that makes town lose so many games.
- MM was an active poster, hasn't posted for almost 3 days and has 8 posts total :troll face:

- Refer to above for the MM part, and making content is inherently bad for scum because it makes decisions more informed and less random, and scum is better off at random then anything else.

- Again how is this not indicative of alignment? Scum want as little scumhunting going on as possible.

And that's funny you say that, because it also win's town games.

P-Edit:
Nani wrote: Are yopu implying that I am scum here and that Stubbs is town here?

Then why the fuck are you voting Stubbs?
I'm implying it's not a town tell for him because he would know his alignment, but nice misrep.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:04 am

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Well Let's put it this way, if we lynch Stubbs and he flips town then we will go after Jason tomorrow, deal?

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