Micro 181: Everyone's being watched (Game Over)

[RachMarie]

of the peeps who have not posted much I thought that was clear


Umm Fuzzy lol Better double check which game you are posting in, you are dead in this one.

[Wisdom]

Rach don't ignore me

And I still wanna know what the heck was up with that hammer.

And how exactly will you know that?

DBK left the game, how will you know "what the heck was up with that hammer"?

there were no new posts to speak of.

And why did you need new posts to speak of instead of making some yourself?

[RachMarie]

Posts made from the following peeps Wis

Sword. Miss D. and Horus.

I have you in the town pile. Grim too. Need to read through Mala's ISO but ehh there are so many missing links atm. I really did think Zio was scum meh.

need to do a VCA too see if I can figure out who was on and off his wagon.

[Wisdom]

Do you realize what I am asking..?

[Wisdom]

Ill try again.

Question 1 - You said you want to know what the heck was up with the hammer. How will you know that when DBK, who did the hammer, left the game?

Question 2 - You said that you didn't post because "there was nothing going on", "no new posts to talk about". Why did you need new posts to talk about instead of making some yourself?

[RachMarie]

oh crap that is right he did the stupid hammer well so much for that....

Kinda hard to ask questions and push on people who are just not there.

I really am not in favor of PLs in general. Especially in smaller games.

When I am less tired and able to focus more I will ISO and do VCA hopefully be able to find something to push on.

[Grimgroove]

Question 1 - You said you want to know what the heck was up with the hammer. How will you know that when DBK, who did the hammer, left the game?

But luckily DBK did offer an explanation with his hammer. An explanation that was an "unneeded justification" (483) in your eyes, but an explanation nonetheless.

RachMarie, what do you think has been left unanswered when it comes to DBK's hammer? What concrete questions do you have concerning this hammer?

The hammer and its reasons are no mystery. Why treat it as such?

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sword

[Grimgroove]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sword

How did RachMarie merit the unvote?

[Wisdom]

I'm not making any progress with her being like that and not having any clue what I am asking. I'll wait till she is "less tired".

[Wisdom]

I really am not in favor of PLs in general.

like this
where the hell did PLs come from?

[JasonWazza]

Vote Count 2.2

[2] Sword_of_omens: RachMarie, Wisdom,

Not voting: Grimgroove, Miss Destroyer, Horus, Sword_of_omens, Malakittens,

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-06-21 14:25:49)

[sword_of_omens]

alright guys..officially back from V/LA
2 votes on me, huh?

expect a full catchup post today...

[sword_of_omens]

apologies guys...(especially JW)
today was busier than expected for me..i did promise to catch up today and i will..
heading out of work right now, but i'll be hitting up the coffee shop tonight and post from there...

That being said I am not liking how sword is not saying much here. plus that hammer uggh
VOTE: sword
you have some 'splainin to do dude...

i have no problem with votes on me..i'll clear all that shit up tonight...but Rach..you know that my weekends are V/LA, so coming at me for not "saying much" is pretty cheese..you're better than that...

I'm sad that he doesn't say hi to me though?

I do apologize MsM..i didn't initialy see you in the line-up...i am glad to see you here though

[RachMarie]

Actually I forgot about that sorry Sword.

But still I would like to see more from some of the other slots too

in fact

VOTE: Miss D

You are a hydra and I know both your heads tend to be active so yeah whats up here?

[Grimgroove]

The activity is indeed abysmal. I wish it were a scumtell and we could simply get vote wagons on the inactive bunch, but it isn't. Maybe replacements are in order? Horus seems to have vansihed into thin air, didn't say a single thing ever since day 2 started..

I'd provide a reads list tomorrow, but with this kind of activity and from what I read, I don't think much has changed since my last ISO's on people so I'm not sure what good it'll do discussionwise.

For now I will join with the Miss Destroyer-trajectory. I find her involvement lacking, and the only post she's made during this dayphase about sword being town sounds like some weird form of going back to some kind of RVS-stage where reactions are gauged with completely random remarks. Not very helpful or constructive when there's other element to be used.

VOTE: Miss Destroyer

[RachMarie]

She? you mean they? Miss D is a hydra of Mara and HD.

[Wisdom]

Well Mara made the post he's talking about, so she

[RachMarie]

But that is why the slot being so absent bothers me more, because I know both heads of the hydra and this is not at all typical of their play.

Mara pushes a lot and reads emotions more than logic and she is extremely active though spread a fair bit thin. But I have seen her in chat so yeah where is she in the game?

As for HD he tends to be aggressive and tunnel like mad even when he is wrong about someone when he is town, and I definitely am not seeing that here.

[sword_of_omens]

Alright…
Sorry for not posting last night…had to go to the hospital for my mom..

Anyway, moving on:

Grimmy:

I like Grimmy for town…I like his catch up posts…simple and direct..and i like his thought process…

MsD:

I have you as possible scum..not my number one pick…I Was wondering if you could explain this in better detail:

I think I'm vibing rach as town this game, she's more aggressive than her scum games I had with her so I'm leaving her alone.

You give her a town badge, then leave her alone..Then after Wisdom’s post you say you can see a Rach/Mala scum team but never pursue Rachel at all?

Wisdom:

meh..Wisdom was pretty damn good scum in my last game I played with him, all the way up to the end…he ended up talking himself into getting lynched, but just barely… I have a feeling he likes to be scum more than town..i’ll stick him in the town pile for now, but I’ll keep an eye on him..definitely would like to see more from him…Wisdom, other than DBK’s hammer (not scummy, btw), what did you see scummy about my slot? Or was your vote just to get me to start talking?

Rach:

Sorry Rach..i have you as scum this game…The town Rach I know is more laid back and from what I’ve seen (especially the I always get mislynched!) I’m just not feeling it from you…you seem to over react a lot and get overly defensive… You also look to be trying for an easy lynch this morning…taking what Wisdom said about the hammer yesterday and then running with it today…it looks like you are just throwing stuff in there to make me look bad…
Funny, you say “that hammer was soooo bad! You got some ‘splaining”..along with saying that me not talking is not good…I pop in and call you out on the V/LA and you immediately unvote me?
you didn’t even question me on your other points..Yes, I know I would not be able to answer why DBK hammered, but you seemed to think I would, so why not push back at me? Unless you knew it would get you nowhere…

Horus:

Apparently everyone thinks Horus is town because he uses big words and can eloquently (see that?) turn a question on him into more flowery speech..for some reason I tend to think of people like that as scummy although it’s probably me just being jealous of his vocabulary...also there is the fact that most of his posts are on pointso, yeh.. Horus is town..and if he is scum, well, he’s probably already won…

Malakit:

I’m seein Malakit as town here..i like her fiery responses, I also like the fact that she’s waiting for me to respond before going gung ho on me…pretty sure she knows me well enough to be able to get a correct read on me once I start posting…I also agree with her that I can see a Rach/MsD scum team…

VOTE: Rachel

[Malakittens]

I agree with Wisdom on the whole Rach/activity issue.. I would have said exactly what he said.

This might be just me, but I feel as if Rach is just going after lurkers.. Which I don't like..

I do like Swords catch up so far. It's what id expect from a town-Swords and due to this he can go into the leaning town pile.

Rach are you considering the posts from earlier days? You had a town read on Horus, but you seem to be hedging right now about the read on him.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:

I have a feeling he likes to be scum more than town..

Right you are.
VOTE: Miss Destroyer
L-1.

[Wisdom]

Ill cast a vote tommorow web more discussion am has apparead.

I don't see any votes

[RachMarie]

Hello that was a pressure vote on you sword, and I realized that I messed up cause you would have no clue on why the hammer, so will ask DBK once game is over lol.

Who is Rachel?? Don't think we have one in the game..... I am Rach or Rachael.

I have been a bit more short tempered than usual lately. Stress of not having a computer, trying to sleep odd hours so its easier to share one with NS, and being tired all the time due to lack of hearing aid.

Miss D I have a much stronger vibe on it is not just a pressure vote. I think they pulled scumz this go round.

Mala I did still think its possible but dude really needs to POST big tiime.

I am pushing on lurkers for a reason I have not been able to peg everyone as tight as I would have liked and that is partly lack of posts from almost half the players. I use meta and PoE a lot in my scum hunting.

At this point the only one I am more convinced of is Miss D this silence from two active players is underwhelming. It is not typical town Mara play and definitely not typcial town HD play. You should know this, you have a hydra with Mara. So it is not just because they are lurking, it is because it is not their usual way of playing. I am not 100% of course. but they are my top scumspect. The fact that they are giving me a free pass is also suspect. Like they already know I am Town.

Why are you defending them Mala? Are you their scum budz?

[Malakittens]

I'm not defending them? I have a thing about people going after lurkers.
I'm testing you to see how you would react. As if you're scum looking for an easy vote or if you're town trying to pressure someone.
No need to get defensive about it. >.>