Micro 181: Everyone's being watched (Game Over)

[JasonWazza]

Vote Count 2.7

[2] Miss Destroyer: RachMarie, Wisdom,
[2] RachMarie: Sword_of_omens, Malakittens,
[1] Malakittens: Egg,

Not voting: Miss Destroyer, Grimgroove,

with 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-06-21 14:25:49)

[Ms Marangal]

we visited Mala

[Miss Destroyer]

we visited Mala

GO WISDOM GO~~~

~Mara

[Wisdom]

DBK

Mala next

[Malakittens]

I went to DBK also.

Kgo Swords.

[RachMarie]

I will keep posting as much as I can but I will be somewhat V/LA for about a week til I get my new computer, my carpal tunnel is having a major flare up even though I am on the computer a lot less due to the angle I am sitting while using NSs computer

[Grimgroove]

Am I going to get picked last again? This is like gym class all over again

[RachMarie]

LOL you want to popcorn to the person you think is most scummy of those who have not yet been popcorned. So in this case being last means most likely you are fairly universal town read

[sword_of_omens]

i visited Wisdom...

Looks like you're next, Grimmy...

[Grimgroove]

I visited Horus.

I guess Egg can't answer in Horus' place so I think this concludes this popcorn round? Unless Egg got this info from the mod.

[Malakittens]

No, egg has claimed to go where he went has he?

[Grimgroove]

If Egg didn't get the info I think it's only fair if the mod would give it to him in any case. So far RachMarie is the only one claiming to have visited fuzzy.

[Malakittens]

Oh I got what you mean now. I misread it the first time around.

[Malakittens]

See the thing we don't know if Horus sent in an action prior to flaking. If he didn't then its likely randomized which could be likely Horus/egg visited Fuzzy due to that.

What I don't get is how Egg defended Rach hardcore. If Egg was scum and did that it would be a ballsy move and we would be moving into the 'too bold to be scum' category type gambit.

There's the chance that Egg could be town and went and visited Fuzzy, but it wouldn't make sense to clear Rach off that because he would know that PoE he could have been the only one other than Rach who visited Fuzzy.

[Grimgroove]

How could he PoE before anyone said where they have been? That argument doesn't make much sense.

I think it's clear: either RachMarie is lying, either Egg was the scum who killed fuzzy (but this seems unlikely given his defense of (RachMarie) or someone else lied during the popcorn-round.

Now I guess it's up to the global watcher to clarifiy this situation (if he can), and if not, we're basically back to where we started.

[Wisdom]

Lets wait for Egg, most likely he knows who Horus visited

[Egg]

He visited mala.

I haven't thouroughly read since my last post. Will do so tomorrow.

[Wisdom]

So looks like only Rach visited fuzzy, unless scum lied.

[Malakittens]

How could he PoE before anyone said where they have been? That argument doesn't make much sense.

I think it's clear: either RachMarie is lying, either Egg was the scum who killed fuzzy (but this seems unlikely given his defense of (RachMarie) or someone else lied during the popcorn-round.

Now I guess it's up to the global watcher to clarifiy this situation (if he can), and if not, we're basically back to where we started.

Because if he's town and Rach is town. Why would he clear Rach without knowing if anyone else visited. As I said I don't really see why scum or town would defend Rach like he's doing.

[Wisdom]

Claims:

RachMarie visited fuzzy
Miss Destroyed visited Malakittens
Wisdom visited DBK
Malakittens visited DBK
sword_of_omens visited Wisdom
Grimgroove visited Horus
Horus visited Malakittens

[Egg]

Watcher is one shot. if they saw someone else visit fuzzy, they should claim. If they only saw rach visit fuzzy, they should still claim. In both of these cases, they have no shot left and it doesn't matter if they are outted. If no one claims, we can assume the watcher didn't use their ability last night and we have no solid info on Rach except her posts which heavily indicate she's a VT who visited fuzzy.

still, either rach is scum or scum was ballsy enough to lie. That's still pretty valuable info. Give me a bit to decide if I think scum would be that ballsy or not and what it might mean if they were.

[Wisdom]

Yeah.
Pretty ballsy to assume the watcher got roleblocked/didnt use his shot and lie about who they visited.

[Wisdom]

If we get no claim, I guess our best bet would be to lynch Rach, however unlikely it seems that she did that.

[Grimgroove]

For me it confirms what I thought about RachMarie earlier, scum grasping at last straws by falsely claiming someone else visited fuzzy as well.
Obviously I wouldn't put it past scum to lie, it's what they do, but taking everything account I think RachMarie is our (or at least my) strongest scumlead.

We still have a bit less than four days of course. Going to re-read some stuff during that time.

[sword_of_omens]

Watcher is one shot. if they saw someone else visit fuzzy, they should claim. If they only saw rach visit fuzzy, they should still claim. In both of these cases, they have no shot left and it doesn't matter if they are outted. If no one claims, we can assume the watcher didn't use their ability last night and we have no solid info on Rach except her posts which heavily indicate she's a VT who visited fuzzy.

^This....



There is also something else i wanted to discuss about our exercise:

You would think that VT would WANT to visit their scum reads, so as not to overlap on a possible NK with scum, and to make it easier for the Watcher in case of multiple people visitting the NK..

i want to go back and re-read yesterday, and see what doesn't line up...