Micro 181: Everyone's being watched (Game Over)

[JasonWazza]

Vote Count 3.3

[1] Wisdom: Miss Destroyer,
[1] Malakittens: Wisdom,

Not voting: Grimgroove, Egg, Malakittens,

with 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-07-10 02:57:35)

[Wisdom]

My questions Mala, my questions

[Malakittens]

And what do you even mean "Egg kept you alive". Why would Egg or any other scum kill you over the watcher and the doctor?

Tbh Mala's reactions make me think it's Mala/MissD now. If it was Mala/Egg, she knew she would be winning this when Egg logged, and she wouldn't even have to post these. The fact she does means she didn't win yet.
Maybe we have not lost this yet after all.

Are you implying Egg is scum with Grimgroove, or what?

There's no mistaking that 939 and 940 imply that you think I am town.

So if I am town, who blocked DBK, Mala?

wtf are you talking about, MissD not only think I am scum, but they have voted me and not budging.

But more importantly, you think I am town, right?

1.

Why are you so confident that scum knew who the watcher was? You don't know it could have been a lucky shot. You're basing a lot of shit on a lot of assumptions right now.

2.

Or I'm town and your vote on me will lose the game if the scum team are on at the same time. I still don't see how rushing a decision followed by a vote in LyLo is good practice.

3.

I'm not sure, but I know I'm town.

{You, MD & Egg}

are possible scum for voting so early in LyLo. Scum want to go for a QL. I do, however, think Egg is scum. Grim has been a strong town read for mostly everyone and this is a great way for him to slide by in LyLo when everyone least suspects it.

4.

How is 939 applying that I think you're town? You are voting me and I know I'm town and your vote should be removed. Similar to how you are begging MD to remove your vote. 940 is me suggesting Egg is scum. You can still be his partner trying to get MD or Grim to vote me for the win. I'm not applying that I think you're town in any of those posts.

5.

Hydra heads have different views. Why are you now forgetting this? HD thinks I'm scum, but Mara thinks I'm town (at least they did last day period, but judging by Mara posts she still thinks I could be town and we haven't heard from HD yet)

Why are you so "tunneled" on about what I think of you? You are currently panicking.

[Wisdom]

1.

Why are you so confident that scum knew who the watcher was? You don't know it could have been a lucky shot. You're basing a lot of shit on a lot of assumptions right now.

What assumptions, Mala? Lucky shot? SWORD DIDNT OUT HIS RESULTS = HE DIDNT HAVE RESULTS = SUCCESSFULL BLOCK ON N1 = THEY KILLED SWORD BECAUSE HES THE BLOCKER. There's no other option.

2.

Or I'm town and your vote on me will lose the game if the scum team are on at the same time. I still don't see how rushing a decision followed by a vote in LyLo is good practice.

Bullshit. You cannot be town. Someone blocked DBK and it wasn't me.

3.

I'm not sure, but I know I'm town.

{You, MD & Egg}

are possible scum for voting so early in LyLo. Scum want to go for a QL. I do, however, think Egg is scum. Grim has been a strong town read for mostly everyone and this is a great way for him to slide by in LyLo when everyone least suspects it.

Some scum want to go for a QL and vote, others wait passively to quickhammer. In the same way, some town are confident enough to vote right away, while others are more careful and want to discuss. Saying that someone is scum because of a quick vote is bullshit.

4.

How is 939 applying that I think you're town? You are voting me and I know I'm town and your vote should be removed. Similar to how you are begging MD to remove your vote. 940 is me suggesting Egg is scum. You can still be his partner trying to get MD or Grim to vote me for the win. I'm not applying that I think you're town in any of those posts.

No, you're trying to tell me that Egg "left you alive" because he has my support for lynching you. That means you think I am town.
Similar to how I'm begging MD - you're right, when I begged MD I was certain they're town.
Likewise you showed you're certain I'm town.

5.

Hydra heads have different views. Why are you now forgetting this? HD thinks I'm scum, but Mara thinks I'm town (at least they did last day period, but judging by Mara posts she still thinks I could be town and we haven't heard from HD yet)

HD does not even play in this game as far as I am concerned, I only see Mala. And she's already voting me. So bullcrap.

Why are you so "tunneled" on about what I think of you? You are currently panicking.

This makes no sense.
I am not tunneled on anything.
You clearly posted trying to AtE me showing that you think I am town, and now you change your story.

[Wisdom]

watcher* not blocker

[Grimgroove]

What the hell is up with all these votes? What is the sudden rush? At least one of these votes is mighty dangerous and could lose us the game, if not both. Please remove it ASAP.

@Wisdom: I don't really believe DBK was blocked night 1. That would mean that already on N1, scum would know both power roles, going for a kill and a roleblock without even bothering to rolecop someone.
Also, the blocker has as much reasons to lie about who he visited as the killer does, because the watcher would also see who didn't visit anyone that night, and thus who was blocked. I don't think the assumption that one of the scum didn't lie about who they visited should be taken for granted.

Miss Destroyer's vote has gotten me convinced she's scum, what an awful tunnel at this stage of the game.

Today I'll be able to re-read in depth, alone in the office, definitely going for checking the interactions with Miss Destroyer thing now.

[Malakittens]

They are trying to quick lynch.

[Grimgroove]

LEt's do it then.

VOTE: Wisdom

[Wisdom]

@Wisdom: I don't really believe DBK was blocked night 1. That would mean that already on N1, scum would know both power roles, going for a kill and a roleblock without even bothering to rolecop someone.

I am not saying they knew DBK was the blocker on N1. That was luck on their part. But they did get both PRs.

Also, the blocker has as much reasons to lie about who he visited as the killer does, because the watcher would also see who didn't visit anyone that night, and thus who was blocked. I don't think the assumption that one of the scum didn't lie about who they visited should be taken for granted.

As Egg explained, the fuzzy-visiting scum would prefer to lie about who they visited because if they said that they visited fuzzy, we would lynch Rach and then them. If the watcher had not been blocked, he would instantly tell the town that they are lying, and thus we would lynch them; but we would still not know their partner. However if BOTH scum lied, the watcher would tell the town that they BOTH lied, and they would instantly lose the game.
Therefore it's not likely that BOTH scum lied.

[Wisdom]

LEt's do it then.

VOTE: Wisdom

lol?
It's you and Mala? Really?
Good game. I'd never guess.

[Grimgroove]

Come on Mala! Now!

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Wisdom

[Wisdom]

gg

[Wisdom]

Awesome scumgame, Grim. I was 100% sure you're town.

Mara, no words. I even went back and changed my opinion on a tunnel, a rare thing for me, yet you couldn't do the same.

[Grimgroove]

*high fives Mala*

Good game! Quicklynching may not be the prettiest win but it counts

Thanks Wisdom!

[Malakittens]

Mara's not going to be happy. I tricked her.

I also stayed up for your timezone Grim. I'm glad you came when you did. I was starting to get a bit sleepy. I had well timing with my League game ending when it did.

[Malakittens]

Also gg guys.

Now we wait for Jason.

[Grimgroove]

I also stayed up for your timezone Grim. I'm glad you came when you did. I was starting to get a bit sleepy. I had well timing with my League game ending when it did.

That's some commitment right there! I feared I missed you by thirty minutes

[Ms Marangal]

....

Why Mala, Why?

I was scum-reading you D1 too...

and I had a decent town-read on Wisdom, but I think I got Paranoid of him somewhere down the road and I ended up thinking that town-wisdom never backs down on tunnels like that...

so yeah

GG guys, neither of us would have thought Grim was scum though

[Ms Marangal]

I mean, you dropped two tunnels...

not one, two.

It was so wierd, and that crazy as fuck AtE was terrible IMO

[Wisdom]

Good, now you know there's no town-Wisdom.
Happy?

[JasonWazza]

Vote Count 3.4 (final)

Lynch

[3] Wisdom: Miss Destroyer, Grimgroove, Malakittens,
[1] Malakittens: Wisdom,

Not voting: Egg,

with 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Wisdom was lynched he was a

Vanilla Townie

The scumteam of Malakittens and GrimGroove win the game.

Mafia can out their QT if they wish

Action's QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/DGsRaR5CNmVu
Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/R43y6BD56uG2h

[Wisdom]

Sword Of Omens chooses not to watch

WHY

[Wisdom]

/facepalm

Yeah so I apparently take back my congratulations to scum finding the PRs. They were just lucky, and sword for some reason that I will never understand did NOT watch on a night that scum didnt even use the blocker.

[Malakittens]

I also stayed up for your timezone Grim. I'm glad you came when you did. I was starting to get a bit sleepy. I had well timing with my League game ending when it did.

That's some commitment right there! I feared I missed you by thirty minutes

We weren't just lucky? >.>

our topic: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/YB4MtwwMEtXKJ