In post 88, Grimgroove wrote:
The 1-shot DayVig discard seems to point to Cheery Dog not being scum
o yeah btw, i dont think i ever indicated this but i was totes not thinking when i said CD had a scummy discard. Discarding a strong scum role seems to imply that he wanted to be town more than he wanted to have a sick role.
Then again, the thing i hate about the dayvig type roles is ppl start just lynching off of probability (1/3 in this case) that u r scum. But thats probably not at play here I really think the dude is town.
Not thinking doesn't sound right when I was trying to get you to explain it the past 4 pages.
[/unvote][/unvote] VOTE: TheTrollie
Holder of the Longest Continuous Weekly Mafiascum Post Record. 1 July 2012 - 16 Feb 2023
*It may be held by someone else if you discount the major downtime in 2012 and 2014, I'm not doing the research.
I make a policy of asking this to everyone with whom I play Greater Idea for the first time because it is useful. People suspected me for it in the linked game. They were wrong. Don't call it
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QS, either - it's evidently not random because of the discard mechanic.
The answer to the preference question obviously doesn't affect what cards we were randomly dealt. It does help us to weigh up claims later when people say "this is the role that I chose over my discard". Anyway I say it in every game so case closed, move on, update your vote (you may already have done so but I haven't read all the way yet).
In post 105, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Hello. Not posting because WTF are you people arguing about. The discards tell us nothing. Call me when there's something real to discuss.
In post 112, JasonWazza wrote:P-Edit: It doesn't make it any less scummy that you do it every game, you do realize that?
IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SCUMMY AT ALL IF I'M PROVEN TO DO IT EVERY GAME. I have just given you proof that I do it as town too, so how can you possibly argue that I'm more likely to be scum for having done it?
In that the questions you're asking only seem to pop up when you spot something that you ought to or simply can safely ask about, rather than following a pattern of actually proactively hunting for scum.
In post 112, JasonWazza wrote:P-Edit: It doesn't make it any less scummy that you do it every game, you do realize that?
IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SCUMMY AT ALL IF I'M PROVEN TO DO IT EVERY GAME. I have just given you proof that I do it as town too, so how can you possibly argue that I'm more likely to be scum for having done it?
JUST BECAUSE YOU DO A SCUMMY THING ALL THE TIME DOESN'T MAKE IT LESS SCUMMY.
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In post 117, ChannelDelibird wrote:In that the questions you're asking only seem to pop up when you spot something that you ought to or simply can safely ask about, rather than following a pattern of actually proactively hunting for scum.
Who do you think is most likely to be scum?
well right now I think Grimgroove is voting me and letting others do the work which isn't town motivated in any way. ETL isn't doing much which is odd. Cheery could also be scum too, I didn't like his Jason vote which came across as an effort to appear like he was doing something.
Jason, you can't apply cookie-cutter tells to people and go "I think x is generically scummy, so anyone who does x is scummy for doing it". People are different and, if you want to vote for me, you have to explain why I, specifically, am more likely to be scum than town. If you accept that I ask about alignment preferences at the start of Greater Idea games all the time, then it simply does not logically follow that doing it in this game makes me more likely to be scum than town. I am not asking you to take it as a towntell. I am pointing out that it can only be a null tell on me.
Not doing much cuz there's not mucb to do. Also, deadline at work makes having any time for scum hunting somewhat difficult. We're done today so this weekend should be big re-read time.
Re: CDB's question, its great for later use. Right now though, we're wasting time. People's preferences will affect what they chose but the discard doesnt give any information; not to mention - um.. scum lie? But I've seen town lie so much recently I dont know anything anymore. Anyway thats not my point.
I'm currently mobile so I'll need to reread and will quote/post reads and vote when i get home tonight.
I'm not advocating that we spent time NOW talking about preferences, for the record. I wish more people had answered me earlier on but we've got more pressing matters at hand. Just to clear up any confusion.
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