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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:17 pm

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In post 1270, DeasVail wrote:What I ask is that you don't assume I'm scum, and that if you do think I am, let me make my best attempt to convince you otherwise.
Alright, but know I don't want to drag this out. Make the case on GiF and give your reasons to why all his town play could be scum motivated. If I have questions, I'll ask. Just know it looks bleak for you at this time. So if you don't want to put in a shit ton of time for likely nothing, just admit you're scum if you're scum and we can say good game...up yo you. :twisted:

Note: I may be power tripping right now seeing as I'm the only confirmed awesome left in the game.

p.edit: MOD, I'm disappointed.... :cry:
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:20 pm

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Vote Count #6.1:


DeasVail:
GuyInFreezer (1)
GuyInFreezer:
DeasVail (1)
...:
kthxbye (1)
In case this isn't obvious, the "..." vote is a joke and is not actually being counted.


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With 3 alive, it takes 2 players to reach a lynch.


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(expired on 2013-07-13 11:00:00)
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:36 pm

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I never give up as scum. Usually I just do really stupid things as I become more desperate, but never give up. Also, saying this is probably not a good idea, but oh well. :P

I don't know what to say to convince you I'm town, but the best thing I can say is that I really don't think I'd have tried to 'save' NS so hard. If I was scum, knowing that Bubba and GiF were town, then he would have definitely been going down in my point of view. Much better to bus than to implicate myself in such a way. I wouldn't try to distract from his lynch as I did just so I could make this argument, as there's no way I would have been able to rely on it changing your mind. Obviously it looks bad, and I would've known this before doing it.

Now onto GiF. The bussing was one thing that made me doubt him being scum at first as well and it's part of the reason why I thought it was bubba and not him, but scum do bus, it just happens. I agree it makes him less likely scum and there's not much else I can say about it. His claim too, seems town, but was a great way to be incredibly town-looking and notscience was not exactly in the best of positions. I've seen a lot of games where unconfirmed PR claims fail to save really scummy people.

The most glaring thing that I see is that there is just way too much town power and just imagining the reviewing of the game, I am pretty sure they'd strongly recommend taking off a PR or two. Macho Cop and Tracker are powerful investigative roles (tracker moreso than usual with the number of PRs) and you have a JOAT as well! It's just too much.

The most incriminating thing that I could see about GiF was his reaction to Jon's claim. Because it was an odd day, it wasn't important for GiF to withhold his claim anymore, so when asked to claim he should have just done it if town. I've already talked about why his stalling would come from scum.

I guess you could say that is possibly because he wanted to be able to be seen as being against his buddy, but the other stuff is just more incriminating imo.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:44 pm

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Considering that I wanted to hide the full night part as long as I could, and the awkwardness of Jon's post (which looked like it could be a reaction test, considering how awkward and indirect it looked), but also with the mentality that I was indeed hiding information(which is why I didn't insta-voted him and went for his throat), I held until Jon outed his report, because I didn't wanted to give out my full claim for some petty reaction test.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:50 pm

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You would've just asked him to claim in that case then? Unless you were scared of being accused of rolefishing...
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:52 pm

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If I was 100% convinced that he was a PR, I would've asked him to claim already.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:56 pm

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He was strongly suggesting that he was a PR, so if you were waiting for him to fullclaim, it makes sense to, you know, ask him to fullclaim, rather than just sit there talking about there being a contradiction, when you should know at that stage there was a reasonable chance that Jon had discovered you lying about your role.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:02 pm

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In post 1278, GuyInFreezer wrote:(which looked like it could be a reaction test, considering how awkward and indirect it looked)
At that time, I was thinking that if he was a PR, he would've directly outed his report.
As I said, I wanted to hide the full night part of my role as long as possible (that longest being the end of day), so I didn't wanted to chance me outing my full claim for what it could be a reaction test.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:05 pm

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If you were going to out it at the end of the day anyway, why did it matter so much?

Also, it doesn't make much sense to expect him to have fullclaimed when you didn't yourself.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:07 pm

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waiting for direct report != waiting for fullclaim

If you read my posts, you will know that I was gonna hint it at the end of D3, not actually claim it.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:21 pm

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Yeah, I just can't go against my gut and my logic. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

GG guys, whoever wins.

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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:25 pm

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Good choice.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:26 pm

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Just so you know DV, I was very close to changing my mind and voting GiF. You brought up some decent points. When I went back through though, I really didn't see how you "tried to 'save' NS so hard." I saw you call him town a couple times, but other than that... I will say town is stacked if all scum got was an RB. That said, it was 9 vs 3 vs 1....town should be stacked in that case. I dunno, hope I made the right choice.

So yeah, whichever of you are scum, you both looked pretty town in the end. GiF more so though. /shrug
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:26 pm

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GiF, you saying you are what you claim then?
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:28 pm

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If GiF is truly town (yay, we'll know soon), then my money is on my suspicions that the flips didn't give us all the info and that the 'goons' that flipped had PR's attached to them. With that in mind, I'm guessing I was also right about us hitting the RB with the NS lynch.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:29 pm

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In post 1288, Kthxbye wrote:GiF, you saying you are what you claim then?
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:36 pm

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Woot! Confirmation that I'm not complete shit at this game!
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:38 pm

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Vote Count #6.2:


DeasVail:
GuyInFreezer, kthxbye (2)
GuyInFreezer:
DeasVail (1)

Not Voting:
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With 3 alive, it takes 2 players to reach a lynch.


V/LA:
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Deadline:
(expired on 2013-07-13 11:00:00)
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:45 pm

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2 people are lynching.... game over?
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:46 pm

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The day was over as quick as it started. With GIF's tracker report, DeasVail was toast. Despite his meager resistance, kthxbye said "Ok, thanks, bye" to the obvious member of the scum team. The remaining two drove DeasVail from the town entirely. As the sun set, GIF's confirmation that he was town had kthxbye cheering that everything was going just as he had expected.

Now, the punch to the back of the head that followed....that wasn't as expected.


DeasVail,
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Kthebye,
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GuyInFreezer,
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, survived until Endgame and won!
notscience,
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, jumped to his death Day 3 and won!
Nobody Special,
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, was struck by lightning Day 5 and won!

Game over! Commentary, setup info, role PMs, and links to all QTs forthcoming in the next few minutes.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:46 pm

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In post 1293, bubbajack8 wrote:2 people are lynching.... game over?
Calm yo titties. Flavor takes time to write.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:48 pm

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Lolololol

Wait til they see the dead qt
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:48 pm

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Ok i can rage now.

Gif gets report n5

Gif claims even night tracker.

Gg though Gif.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:49 pm

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I'm going to request that no-one post the dead QT or otherwise do things that I should be doing - give me like 30 minutes and it will all be posted. This includes night actions.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:50 pm

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