Mafia of the Raptured (Game Over!)

[Katsuki]

Welp.

No idea who's scum but it probably doesn't matter given that I'm going to be the lynch for today anyways.

Thinking about things, we've had nothing but vanilla claims. If both SOO and Amrun are scum it would mean that town was completely powerless outside the cultilante. Zde has SOO read as more likely to be scum, and I have Amrun leaning scum, but I really don't think both of them are scum?

Ffery I still don't have a scumread on so if she's scum then :/.

I'll refrain from voting just yet, but consider this a vote for Syry.

FOS: SYRY

[Katsuki]

Amrun, any thoughts?

[Amrun]

Well that sucks. I did Touhou project and returned that thing Katsuki claimed. Aya smarmybastard or whatever.

I think, given who is left, it's probably Syryana and soo, but I'm much more confident about Syryana.

Fos: Syryana

P-edit: that's creepy as hell katsuki

[Katsuki]

You've been on earlier, and I'm curious why you hadn't posted here.

[fferyllt]

So have I.

Going to reread day 5. Again.

[Amrun]

Because I'm v/la and only have. 5 minutes at a time? I've been over this like a million times.

And also I had just started trying to post in games today, like, a half an hour ago or something. I've been in and out, doing work shit. I don't know why v/la is such a difficult concept. I'm starting to get frustrated by that.

[Katsuki]

It's not so much the concept of V/LA, as it is the game state (V/LA has absolutely nothing to do with this too). I know that I even dreamed of seeing the OS scumflip, only to see town when I actually woke up.

I don't believe that you didn't at least look at this thread when you got online. Which makes me curious why you waited until someone had posted first before showing your face here.

[Amrun]

Oh I did look at the flip. I looked at it at like ass thirty in the morning and my phone was about to die and my dad was yelling at me and I couldn't muster the energy to post. And?

[Katsuki]

Please do not talk about ongoing games. ~Vi

[fferyllt]

seriously, katsuki, I made a bunch of posts with my hydrae this morning before you posted. I don't think waiting until someone else posts is alignment indicative.

I wanted to see who would post first and what they would say.

[Katsuki]

Since when was that talking about ongoing games... Peeps been doing it for years.

@Ffrey: Dunno then, it tends to be more alignment indicative in my experience. Granted tends to be more severe so (in those cases, I have yet to see anyone flip town, and that's with a very very large sample size).

[Katsuki]

If you guys have leads I'd be glad to hear it. Obviously my reads are shit at the moment even if I still think Syry is the play for today.

[sword_of_omens]

checking in by phone...
I still think I might prefer Amrun or Ffery,
but I plan on re-reading later tonight or sometime tomorrow when I can get to a nice quiet spot...

[fferyllt]

Se're not no lynching today, so fuck off SoO and your Amrun vote. Basically you just bought yourself tomorrow's rope. So that's cute.

I've played with SoO before and he's never whined like this about lack of access, so he probably is actually scum too, so right now, I'd l ove to string him up, but getting a wagon going there is isn't going happen now.

So somebody should probably
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you are wrong here, Zdenek try reading DBZ mafia..ffery was there and can tell you I got called out for the exact same thing.... and no I wasn't scum there, either... as far as my vote goes, , I said I would move it if I had to before dead line, but I was hoping that people would at least read and discuss the shit i type rather than just dismiss it....I had preferred not to vote on my town reads and think it's a legitimate case.. there was plenty of time to at least discuss it...

@Kats... although it doesn't really matter now, I probably would have gone with you... I've played with OS quote a bit and would like to think that I can read him pretty well...

The stuff about the dragonballz game is correct. SoO was called out for being apologetic/making excuses about being too busy at work and lack of access at home. He had a healthy bandwagon near the end of day 2 because people felt like he was spending more post real estate making excuses than actual gameplay.

[fferyllt]

^^ near the end of day 1, not day 2.

[fferyllt]

I'm not really comfortable with the idea of voting Syr today.

SoO, rereading yesterday, you had a huge and elaborate case for why I was scum. Your case on Amrun is pretty much dependent on a fake role claim with the cooperation of scum-me. I'm not sure why you voted Amrun at the end of all that. I'm the claimed VT,

Do you feel like her flip is more informative?

[Amrun]

Why not comfortable with voting syr?

[fferyllt]

Because there is no real case built, or at least not articulated, for one thing. For another, I don't have a scum read.

I'm leaning toward voting SoO.

[Amrun]

I wish I could put together a case. it's just too much to do from my phone while at work.

I have given reasons, though! I'll try to recap them soon when (if) I get the time. I'm sooo busy though

[fferyllt]

The scumteam is Katsuki and sword_of_omens.

It's pure PoE for SoO?

I don't really have much of a case either. Just a feeling that his play in this game has been different from the town game we played.

[sword_of_omens]

Fferry,

You and Anrun make the most sense to me as a scum team...
i've started in my previous post how it looks that way... why did I pick her over you as far as voting? prretty sure I also stated why.. I've been burned again and again on scum cops...FF6 mafia, Diddin claimed name cop, and went all the way through the end and won for scum...90's Cartoin maf, MichelSablehart claimed name cop and although we did finally lynch him after me pressing everybody, scum still went on to win that game... so i kind of hold a persinal grudge against nontradtional cops, especially if I think they are scum...and especially when it might lose us the game..

but like I said, I woukd have been happy with either of you...


I still haven't re-read like I wanted to, but should be getting to that tonight...

[fferyllt]

Fferry,

You and Anrun make the most sense to me as a scum team...
i've started in my previous post how it looks that way... why did I pick her over you as far as voting? prretty sure I also stated why.. I've been burned again and again on scum cops...FF6 mafia, Diddin claimed name cop, and went all the way through the end and won for scum...90's Cartoin maf, MichelSablehart claimed name cop and although we did finally lynch him after me pressing everybody, scum still went on to win that game... so i kind of hold a persinal grudge against nontradtional cops, especially if I think they are scum...and especially when it might lose us the game..

but like I said, I woukd have been happy with either of you...


I still haven't re-read like I wanted to, but should be getting to that tonight...

Well, as I've reiterated a couple times, the coincidence factor really, really bothers me. Picking up a non-existent crumb is on thing. Picking up a non-existent crumb that still somehow fits the eventual role claim makes me worried that there was some sort of strategy change when Amrun joined the game.

OTOH I did genuinely read pjo as town, while he was in the game. Same with mrbungles and I'm still pissed at myself about setting that read aside and voting hp

The thing with you that I have trouble with is that, like I said, your case is mostly based on my posts, and yet you are voting Amrun on the basis of a grudge against other players who fake-claimed similar roles in other games. It's not precisely gambler's fallacy, but it's equally squiffy logic.

[fferyllt]

Also, I feel like you're actually picking up stuff that I have brought up to make part of your case - like the near uselessness of the early universe investigations - and yet are still scum-reading me.

[Syryana]

Well that sucks. I did Touhou project and returned that thing Katsuki claimed. Aya smarmybastard or whatever.

I think, given who is left, it's probably Syryana and soo, but I'm much more confident about Syryana.

Fos: Syryana

P-edit: that's creepy as hell katsuki

There are two major problems with this post.

1) I've been your top scumread since like forever (two, three Days now?), and yet you still have failed to investigate me. You seem perfectly satisfied to sit around calling me scum without ever actually pushing the read.

2) I did some research into Aya Syameimaru. She's a main character in one of the Touhou Project series, a newspaper reporter etc. Given the obvious flavor of Antagon-scum (Misery from LoZ for those of you that don't remember), assuming the flavor cop returned Aya I'd be willing to assume that Katsuki is town. This creates a problem. If Katsuki and Amrun are town, the scumteam becomes SOO/fery, which is impossible since Amrun is still alive. Therefore, Amrun is scum.

Haven't decided on the partner yet (though the fact that SOO is alive still as well is interesting considering he claimed JOAT variant).

VOTE: Amrun

The scumteam is Katsuki and sword_of_omens.

It's pure PoE for SoO?

I don't really have much of a case either. Just a feeling that his play in this game has been different from the town game we played.

Twas pure POE, yes. Though since then my major premise has failed, so he may not necessarily be scum (though I'm still leaning that way).

[fferyllt]

It's been difficult to pick a scum partner for SoO. If Amrun is scum, it's been sort of dangerous to push her lynch.