Open 510: DUCK DUCK GOOSE- SCUM WIN!!

[Generic]

He can be carefree about it though, people are seeing a wagon over halfway and going for the easy option. Why bother checking if there was any case behind it, just vote.

Depressing looking in on this game, will have to do what the rest do and lurk or avoid posting anything on topic. Cos it's n00bish otherwise...

[Ms Marangal]

Vote Count 1.6

Voting:

Generic (5)

: Mutleyddmc, Treble, TaskMaster, Sound of Silence, D3f3nd3r

(L-2)

TheIrishPope (1)

: Siverure DtTrikyp

Sakura Hana(1)

: TheIrishPope

Mutleyddmc(1)

:, NotMara

Not voting

:Voodoo Lady, Karnage, Sakura Hana, Generic

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch[/area][/align] [/size]

Deadline is 7/24/2013 4:30 GMT (That's (expired on 2013-07-24 08:30:00))

[Taskmaster]

Hahahaha mara missed top

[Taskmaster]

generic is at L-2

Just throwin that out there.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Yeaah, ummm, I kinda don't really buy any of the cases thus far.

Notmara's pushes are kinda weird... I don't like the one on mutley.

I have no idea what voodoo is trying to say, as why you'd lynch a contrarian townie to a sucidal townie isn't there and I can't think why that makes any sense ever.

[Taskmaster]

Hi non hydra acc :>

[NotMara]

Why would you want to lynch

any

townie? I can't see any scum motivation for saying that, but I can't see any town motivation for saying it either. That was just a stupid statement period.

~Rob

What non-hydra? Nothing to see here.

~I don't see anything either

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[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Eh, actually, I find it hard to believe we have five townies voting generic just given the nature of the wagon, (we're probably screwed if there is) so there should be scum in there. Also, um

UNVOTE: theirishpope

[Treble]

Hello! I am the head #2 of Treble!

I know quite a bit of the players here! Sakura vs Generic will be an interesting fight to watch!

<3 TiP

And I have got to say... Generic is overly defensive. I am in an ongoing game w/ him, but his behaviour certainly is different; is all I can say.

VOTE: Generic

Why are you being overly defensive?

no

UNVOTE: , and VOTE: Sakura

we need to talk about these things :c too many people voting and suspecting Generic

[1]

[Karnage]

I'm with whichever head of treble posted #233.

Sakura's vote/unvote on TIP reeks.

170 - votes TIP for not contributing (he had posted 164 while she was typing apparently)
171 - unvotes TIP because to do analysis
173 - TIP's fluff is a town read according to his meta but in 110 she FOS'd TIP because of his fluff. And sHe doesn't seem to care that he never answered her question about why he thought treble was buddying.
180 - TIP being "paranoid" is a town read... even if you missed the joke (which I did at first) how is that a town read?
212 - She's now confident TIP is town based on his meta but why didn't she have that read from the start?

in general she seems to be all over the place, almost like she's trying too hard to make it look like she's scumhunting.

VOTE: sakura hana

[Sakura Hana]

I'm with whichever head of treble posted #233.

Sakura's vote/unvote on TIP reeks.

170 - votes TIP for not contributing (he had posted 164 while she was typing apparently)
171 - unvotes TIP because to do analysis
173 - TIP's fluff is a town read according to his meta but in 110 she FOS'd TIP because of his fluff. And sHe doesn't seem to care that he never answered her question about why he thought treble was buddying.
180 - TIP being "paranoid" is a town read... even if you missed the joke (which I did at first) how is that a town read?
212 - She's now confident TIP is town based on his meta but why didn't she have that read from the start?

in general she seems to be all over the place, almost like she's trying too hard to make it look like she's scumhunting.

VOTE: sakura hana

Oh hey, someone actual made a good case on me, good job!

[Taskmaster]

VOTE: Sakura

TERRIBLE response. Looks like scum who knows they're in trouble and buddies someone who presents a legitimate case.

[Sakura Hana]

I agree with all the points made on that case, that's about it.

[D3f3nd3r]

Well, seeing that you understand his arguments, now what?

[Sakura Hana]

Now nothing, i got nothing to say coz i agree i've done that, so i can't really defend myself against it? xD

[TheIrishPope]

Hana just claimed scum, easy lynch, let's go

[Treble]

TIP is right we can easylynch this

i have an idea, if sakura really is scum there's are 2 easy ways to tell

1. throw her into the lake with an iron ball chained to her leg. if she's scum she'll shoot off the chain and survive
2. burn her at the stake! if she is mafia then she will burn anyway

win win imo

I'm just going to UNVOTE: her first so we can drown/notdrown/burn her instead okay

[TheIrishPope]

The fuck

[Treble]

[¡1!]

[Treble]

in case you didn't understand my head says that both of these might be town v. town

[1.5]

[Voodoo Lady]

Hate to interrupt your bandwagoning, but Taskmaster's scum.

Take a gander at 156-- the second and third bullet points in particular.

2) I think the case against Generic is crap, but I'm not dismissing he can be scum.

This seems alright at first glance. He disagrees with the points NotMara and co. brought up, but he still thinks Generic is scummy for different reasons.

The problem with this point is-- beyond the passive-aggression of voting for someone then saying that you're "not dismissing he can be scum"-- the terrible attempt to distance himself from NotMara's argument. Which is plain outright ridiculous because in 149, he brought up practically all of the points NotMara made against Generic in his first post. Let's go over those, shall we?

• 1) NotMara calls out Generic for being overly defensive. Taskmaster criticizes Generic for being "defensive as hell for one post made by NotMara" in 149, and later claims that "being defensive clearly indicates you have something to hide" in 155 to solidify his read.
  2) NotMara calls out Generic for tossing around his vote willy-nilly during RVS. Taskmaster complains about Generic's vote changing-- "Seriously, we do not need 3 RVS votes."
  3) NotMara calls out Generic for his reaction to the fake doc claims. Taskmaster calls out Generic's reaction to the fake doc claims.

These were the three tenets of NotMara's case, and Taskmaster's problems with Generic's actions fall in line with that. His desire to distance himself from the other cases against Generic strikes me as a conscious attempt to avoid being accused of bandwagoning.

The icing on the cake is his most recent post, 236.

VOTE: Sakura

TERRIBLE response. Looks like scum who knows they're in trouble and buddies someone who presents a legitimate case.

3) I think Sakura is town.

People who deserve votes: Generic, Muttley, TIP

Huh? You had Sakura as a townread before, then suddenly do a 180 with all of one line of justification? You had three other people you thought deserved posts earlier, but all of them seem to have dropped off your lists for some reason. I wonder why? Oh right-- they don't have major wagons forming on them right now.

Taskmaster is being blatantly opportunistic and deserves much, much more scrutiny.

VOTE: Taskmaster

[Voodoo Lady]

Why would you want to lynch

any

townie? I can't see any scum motivation for saying that, but I can't see any town motivation for saying it either. That was just a stupid statement period.

~Rob

What non-hydra? Nothing to see here.

~I don't see anything either

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Sometimes, players lynch players they don't think are scum because their playstyle is detrimental to the town. I'm sure you understand, given that you suggested policy lynching Mutley earlier this game for the exact same reason.

I have not read Mutley's meta, nor do I plan to. If this is his meta as both alignments, he deserves policy lynches until he revises his play. He's been playing incredibly anti-town and scummy.

[Taskmaster]

You wanna tango? Bring it on.

[Taskmaster]

First 2 quotes were me, last was the other head. We don't agree on everything, but we do agree your case is bad and should feel bad.

l0l

[Ms Marangal]