Mini 1452 - Inevitable Mafia (Game Over)

[BROseidon]

Gut, mostly.

[BROseidon]

Also RC do you not know what an unvote is?

[gorckat]

Also RC do you not know what an unvote is?

I don't think RC answered earlier when I asked about off-site experience in response to a crazy self-vote in place of an unvote.

[CooLDoG]

no, no ,no. unvote now, quick. Voting yourself could lead to a quick lynch.

[gorckat]

If there's three scum or someone numb enough to the circumstances to vote RC.

It is silly of RC to be doing, and the question is still open about experience off-site and voting conventions there.

[gorckat]

Cooldog- where are you on rofl? Do you think Bro is the other scum?

I'm okay with trading with Thad if he's scum and you really want to get me before him, but we need to hit scum today for that to be possible.

If Thad is scum, then we can roll Bro tomorrow. But if you roll me first, then that's it.

[CooLDoG]

Still like you first. You always seem to play the position of ease. Always on the big wagons that go to a lynch. Never take a controversial stand. I'm more than happy to lynch you atm.

[roflcopter]

thinking gorckat, more probably tomorrow these doubles be killin' me brah

[RadiantCowbells]

I still really want to believe that Roflcopter and Thad are town.

[ThAdmiral]

radiant what the fuck are you doing - unvote yourself.

If you want to lynch me go bro tomorrow, then probably gorckat. But I'd prefer gork/bro today.

[ThAdmiral]

Actually no if we mislynch we lose now right?
Yeah don't lynch me first.

[RadiantCowbells]

radiant what the fuck are you doing - unvote yourself.

If you want to lynch me go bro tomorrow, then probably gorckat. But I'd prefer gork/bro today.

Actually no if we mislynch we lose now right?
Yeah don't lynch me first.

VOTE: Unvote

Relax, guys. If there are 3 scum now then that means there were 4 scum from d1 and all the town power we had was a JOAT and two masons.

Not. bloody. likely.

I'm even wondering if you're intentionally dumbtelling.

no, no ,no. unvote now, quick. Voting yourself could lead to a quick lynch.

Still not seeing it. You guys are so paranoid.

I was testing reactions.

If there's three scum or someone numb enough to the circumstances to vote RC.

It is silly of RC to be doing, and the question is still open about experience off-site and voting conventions there.

Cooldog- where are you on rofl? Do you think Bro is the other scum?

I'm okay with trading with Thad if he's scum and you really want to get me before him, but we need to hit scum today for that to be possible.

If Thad is scum, then we can roll Bro tomorrow. But if you roll me first, then that's it.

No, I know what an unvote is.

Self-votes generate discussion and I'm feeling stuck on what to do next.


Right now I'm feeling one of ThAd and Gorck is scum with Broseidon.

I mean I really don't want to give roflcoptor a free pass anymore because I had the hugest townread on him and he just took that and went MIA for the rest of the game.

Where we are in hypothetical votes on scumreads is

Gorckat- ThAdmiral, CoolDog, Roflcoptor, RadiantCowbells, Broseidon
Broseidon- Thadmiral, RadiantCowbells, Gorckat
ThAdmiral- Broseidon, ThAdmiral

I mean it's just really disconcerting that everyone's treating Roflcoptor like conftown even though he's contributed spectacularly little. I'm hoping that everyone wasn't just sheeping my read on him.
Can everyone in their next post explain why they think Coptor is town?

Either way, it looks like Gorckat is the probable lynch today.

[gorckat]

You can put me on the Thad list, too (probably intended in place of Thad calling himself scum).

I've always (all of like, 3 games, iirc) found rofl a troubling read. His style is a little disjointed and doesn't always have a flow about it. I had a gut feel about him being scum in lylo once, but the other guy had reasons to be scum, so I voted there and rofl won. I think I misjudged him as scum in another lylo or late-game situation, as well.

I don't have that same feel here, and when I looked at that game, his posts felt different in this game. He did take an early run at nhammen, so I counted that in his favor. nhammen was getting a little criticism by myself, and maybe others, and I could see arguing that it was a distance-push, but it was totally not needed. If rofl was scum with nhammen and ended up winning, I'd have to re-read that move and consider a scummy nom.

As for Thad, I get the feeling he has forgotten major events recently and is not fully aware of the situation- forgetting Yates was dead (apparently forgetting his fake cop claim and run-up) and thinking it would be possible for RC to be QL'd with help only from a self-vote.

I have my own scum read on Thad and a sheep on RC / POE on Bro. rofl-scum would piss me off.

[ThAdmiral]

radiant what the fuck are you doing - unvote yourself.

If you want to lynch me go bro tomorrow, then probably gorckat. But I'd prefer gork/bro today.

Actually no if we mislynch we lose now right?
Yeah don't lynch me first.

VOTE: Unvote

Relax, guys. If there are 3 scum now then that means there were 4 scum from d1 and all the town power we had was a JOAT and two masons.

Not. bloody. likely.

I'm even wondering if you're intentionally dumbtelling.

It's just...please don't do it. There's no need, and it sets me on edge, lol.

[ThAdmiral]

Updated with hoopla lynch

TMTOLBTWNTOF

-

Does Bo Know

,

DCLXVI

, BROseidon,

jmo16mla

DLCXVI

-

TMTOLBTWNTOF

,

RadiantCowbells

,

ThAdmiral

, gorckat

DLCXVI

-

TMTOLBTWNTOF

, gorckat,

Rob13

,

CooLDoG

,

RadiantCowbells

TMTOLBTWNTOF

-

DCLXVI

, BROseidon,

jmo16mla

,

Yates

RadiantCowbells

-

Rob13

,

nhammen

,

TMTOLBTWNTOF

,

RadiantCowbells

,

CooLDoG

-

ThAdmiral

,

Does Bo Know

, Broseidon,

Rob13

,

DCLXVI

,

nhammen

CooLDoG

-

ThAdmiral

,

DCLXVI

,

nhammen

, gorckat,

RadiantCowbells

TMTOLBTWNTOF

- BROseidon,

jmo16mla

,

Yates

,

Hoopla

,

DCLXVI

, gorckat,

Rob13

Yates

- Broseidon, roflcopter,

nhammen

,

CooLDoG

, gorckat,

RadiantCowbells

nhammen

- Broseidon, roflcopter,

RadiantCowbells

, gorckat,

CooLDoG

Hoopla

- roftcopter, gorckat, Broseidon,

CooLDoG

,

RadiantCowbells

Analysis:

ok so basically if you somehow think the scumteam is me/rofl then you are saying that the tmt wagons and the early dcl wagon were

entirely town

. I guess its

possible

that rofl is scum, but from where I'm sitting it is much more likely that the scums are bro and gork.

[gorckat]

Right now I'm feeling one of ThAd and Gorck is scum with Broseidon.

[snip]

Either way, it looks like Gorckat is the probable lynch today.

If you think Bro is scum with one of Thad/me, then you need to be pursuing Bro.

I know all scum say it in LYLO, but don't lynch me first...I'm just a townie.


Thad- you've fluffed a lot with pseudo VCA. Any combo of scum teams at this point yields a possible all-town wagon (ie- you and rofl = TMT was all town).

[BROseidon]

I'm fine with a gorckat lynch.

VOTE: gorck

I don't honestly see my reads changing at this point.

[gorckat]

ThAd then can't decide whether to deathtunnel me or gorck, so he just sort of wavers back and forth in who he wants to deathtunnel. Oh, and he didn't think nhammen was scum when the guy at that point was pretty damn scum.

Why would Thad-scum deathtunnel gorc-scum if a lynch on Bro-town were still on the table and possible?

Your whole 897 makes the case for Thad-scum, which I like, but you're taking the easy way and angling for a quick win because several people have expressed interest in my lynch.

The Thad/nhammen interplay you mention is the one thing that gives me any pause on Thad right now and leaves me that little bit willing to consider Bro/rofl.

vote: Broseidon

[RadiantCowbells]

I need more time to think about this.

[ThAdmiral]

vote: bro

I'm feeling this one a bit more than gork right now.

[BROseidon]

Right, you're hoping that I get lynched first so you win and don't have to bus. Got it.

[RadiantCowbells]

CoolDog / Rofl, I am leaning towards a Broseidon lynch today.

What do you think?

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually you know what fuck it.

Go ahead and quickhammer if I'm wrong.

VOTE: Broseidon

[Kitoari]

Votecount #18:
Broseidon - gorckat, thadmiral, RadiantCowbells
gorckat - Broseidon

Not voting: CooLDoG, roflcopter

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to replace out if this lurking continues.