Balto the Invitational - Game Over

[Amrun]

Yeah, but the fact that one can imitate something towny as scum does not make the action scummy...?

[Beethoven]

I'm not arguing that as scum I wouldn't kill DGB. I am arguing that your focus on me due to reasons of DGB suspecting me before she died are spurious given her equal and in some cases unequal attention on others.

So are we scum or just idiots then? We suspected you yesterday. The DGB kill is more indicative of you than Trollie and your defense of it felt a bit desperate.

If you are town I don't see why you wouldn't understand the above ^. You are the common denominator between 'suspicious peeps' and 'peeps with obvious motive to kill DGB'

Your defense has been a huge strawmanning of our reasons for finding you voteworthy to focus on a singular point and then say the point by itself is bad - it is.

I presented only the fact that DGB called you scum along with all other posts that called people scum.

YES EXCEPT YOU ARE IGNORING THE CONTEXT WHICH IS THAT SHE WAS TROLLING AND NOT ACTUALLY CALLING US SCUMMY.

Why is this even relevant? You are actively pushing false bullshit about DGB's opinion on us 'just because' and actually handwaving away context when its brought up.

As for Gamma, DGB was not simply mocking or reaction testing. Her 675 literally says that playing paranoid as a scum tell is a "rock-hard belief".

Really you don't see it? She didn't say "Gamma is scum". She pointed out one thing about his play she didn't like and then called it anti-town even. But I'm really not going to argue how to qualify the seriousness of each and every DGB suspicion.

Her suspicions throughout were of equal caliber strength when she had them. Or at least it is impossible to determine otherwise.

No it isn't. For instance, where shes voting is probably a strong indicator (Amrun/Reck).

Its not impossible at all - your defense against this suspicion feels awfully forced.

I've read your posts made this day and they are crap. Frequency of name mention matters more than context? Really? I added my vote to your wagon because you certainly deserve the pressure.

@Dan: So where would you expect KK to vote as town? Voting with incomplete information is not a scumtell. And if hes scummy for voting you based on the DGB kill why are Iecerint and I not also suspicious scumbutts for voting you based on the DGB kill?

but ActionDan's reaction was pretty gross

You aren't chainsawing Iecerint are you? Because Iec is probstown.

Maybe I was wrong about Triforce

What made you think this?

[Beethoven]

yo guyz bb is probably scum.

What an insightful post.

Trollie is only paying attention to me, and not Matt who is leading the crusade against him?

Fuck that

And he's not yelling?

Fuck that

Pretty much agree.

AP/Maestro thoughts on Nuwen/Amrun/Trollie please

If Dan is not getting lynched we would move to Trollie.
Nuwen is not a townread. I really didn't like her calling Dan scummy offhandedly and then shoving Iec on his wagon and not putting a vote anywhere. I don't know how M feels about her.
Amrun is on the town side of null although I'm lightly paranoid about some of her attempts to scumhunt being 'too tryhard' if you know what I mean.

[xRECKONERx]

Secrets made me think this. I will reveal these secrets later.

[BBmolla]

Yeah, but the fact that one can imitate something towny as scum does not make the action scummy...?

Combined with no town actions it could.

It was more of a "crazy explanation" than a "factual examination."

[Beethoven]

Crazy explanations are the ones that make the most sense though : )

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 2, VC 4

ActionDan (3):

Beethoven, Iecerint, Kublai Khan

TheTrollie (4):

MattP, Cogito Ergo Sum, BBmolla, Amrun

BBmolla (1):

TheTrollie

Iecerint (2):

Nuwen, Gammagooey

xRECKONERx (1):

Triforce

Kublai Khan (1):

ActionDan

Amrun (1):

Fate

Not voting (3):

ChannelDelibird, Grimmjow, xRECKONERx

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-07-26 22:50:36)

Prodding Grimmjow.

[Iecerint]

Has Reck done things today?

[Amrun]

Can you not see for yourself?

[Fate]

he's been pretty town today, yeah

[Iecerint]

Can you not see for yourself?

Yes, but I thought your feelings would be illuminating.

Thanks @ Fate.

I was townreading Reck when he was posting a lot but for some reason I have no memory of recent reck things.

[xRECKONERx]

Not many do.

[xRECKONERx]

Though I do feel like content:post ratio is up today for me.

[Amrun]

Though I do feel like content:post ratio is up today for me.

It is. A+ keep it up

[Gammagooey]

feel pretty strongly that actiondan is saying things that make sense to him when he's saying them even though they wound up convoluted in the actual posts and also that saying those things isn't what scum-dan would be doing in this game

also liked trollie saying straight up that he didn't have any reads before the list he made but that's definitely still say-able as scum

also also i'm just gonna do this for a bit because iec-wagon isn't gonna happen without someone being CONFIDENT in it and i am not currently that dude
if someone who actually has a town read on him with reasons that i can read back and say 'oh i guess that does make sense' it'd be nice though

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

[Gammagooey]

Further also

@Mod: Prod CDB please

[TheTrollie]

Prodding Grimmjow.

wow he lasted a long time before this this game

[Amrun]

@gamma: I still have a town(ish) read in iece but it's not all confident. My reason(s) include that he's committing to pushes early, but he's also done some things to Give me pause.

If you could look into my eyes, Iecerint, that's be greeeeeat

[Amrun]

@gamma: I still have a town(ish) read in iece but it's not all confident. My reason(s) include that he's committing to pushes early, but he's also done some things to Give me pause.

If you could look into my eyes, Iecerint, that's be greeeeeat

[Lost Butterfly]

Prodding CDB by player request.

[Iecerint]

If you could look into my eyes, Iecerint, that's be greeeeeat

What's up?

[ActionDan]

Iec. you still need to explain your vote.

[ChannelDelibird]

Yeah, yeah, I'm comin'

[Amrun]

If you could look into my eyes, Iecerint, that's be greeeeeat

What's up?

i want to be totally confident in happy fun towniece times

but i am not

i am only like "maybe iece is town probably"

[Grimmjow]

Well shit. I was wondering initially if I'd prevent that from happening at all this game. Any who, I'll catch up tonight after work.