Mafia 56: Hardcore Street - Game over!

[irrumator]

Because Lynching someone without a claim is STUPID??? WTF is with you?

Especially in a no-reveal game. we need all the info we can gather.

Mate, what's with the cursing? Now, we got a claim from Twito. Do you believe it?

Mariyta, do you believe Twito's claim?

I already said that his attitude was idiotic, but what you're doing is stupider. At least d1 was d1, but you're actions would deprive us of any info on day 2, because you're no better than him urging for the rushlynch.

Would you lynch Twito today? If you wouldn't, why?

Not to mention your stupid questions for SL about his random voting on day 1 which seemed to me as you looking for justifiacation for bandwagoning SL .

Which questions you thought were stupid and why?

I'm not sure about twito's claim. I certainly wouldnt lynch him at this point.

As for your questions I'm talking about where you asked jathan to justify a random vote.

Nice generalizations there. Are you two (Twito, Shadowlurker) going to keep your minds closed for the rest of the game?

You didn't answer my question. You have also yet to post any questions to Masterchief, so why are you attacking me on behalf of Twito?

This was in response to SL's joke vote on MC for his actions in previous games.

Then later:

vote: ShadowLurker

ShadowLurker, answer my question. Why were you attacking me on behalf of Twito?

Now see, you keep going on about how sl was attacking you on behalf of twito. The closest think sl comes to that is this:

Stop making up a defense for questions directed to your scumbuddy, Masterchief.

You'll notice that this is in response to olio calling BOTH sl and twito closed minded. So where does SL EVER attack olio on defense of twito? Never.


In otherwords-
You accuse Sl of attacking on behalf of twito (clearly not true),
Then when SL ignores your nonsensical question (about a random vote and his random attack on you that is unrelated to twito) you vote him asking it again.

It just looks like poor justification, if any at all, for voting SL.

[olio]

I'm not sure about twito's claim. I certainly wouldnt lynch him at this point.

Why not?

This was in response to SL's joke vote on MC for his actions in previous games.

I think my post pretty clearly says that I didn't think that vote being a joke one. Why do you presume it was a joke vote?

Stop making up a defense for questions directed to your scumbuddy, Masterchief.

You'll notice that this is in response to olio calling BOTH sl and twito closed minded. So where does SL EVER attack olio on defense of twito? Never.

Wrong. Twito presented a challenge(or questions like SL calls it) to MC. SL never presented a question to MC. SL attacks me in that quote about challenge (question in SL's terms) Twito has presented. You failed to tie those post together in context.

You accuse Sl of attacking on behalf of twito (clearly not true),

It's true. You just didn't get it.

Then when SL ignores your nonsensical question (about a random vote and his random attack on you that is unrelated to twito) you vote him asking it again.

So, please clarify this: Why do you think SL's vote was a joke/random one and mine wasn't?

[irrumator]

I'm not sure about twito's claim. I certainly wouldnt lynch him at this point.

Why not?

This was in response to SL's joke vote on MC for his actions in previous games.

I think my post pretty clearly says that I didn't think that vote being a joke one. Why do you presume it was a joke vote?

Because it was his first freaking post. One assumes that that early in the game is the RANDOM VOTING stage, and as such all votes should be taken much more lighter.

Stop making up a defense for questions directed to your scumbuddy, Masterchief.

You'll notice that this is in response to olio calling BOTH sl and twito closed minded. So where does SL EVER attack olio on defense of twito? Never.

Wrong. Twito presented a challenge(or questions like SL calls it) to MC. SL never presented a question to MC. SL attacks me in that quote about challenge (question in SL's terms) Twito has presented. You failed to tie those post together in context.

Err What? SL random votes MC. Twito follows, siting MC's ineptness in earlier games and asking him to quote his post in order to show he's not lurking. Sl then contributes an example of when MC is being inept.

You then make the comment about them both being closed minded. Nothing else happens in between them and your comment about how sl was attacking on behalf of twito. nothing.

Notice your comment accuses them both "you two" of being closed minded. So when Sl responds, how is he responding for twito? I'm sorry but you're viewpoint is very incorrect here.

You accuse Sl of attacking on behalf of twito (clearly not true),

It's true. You just didn't get it.

Then when SL ignores your nonsensical question (about a random vote and his random attack on you that is unrelated to twito) you vote him asking it again.

So, please clarify this: Why do you think SL's vote was a joke/random one and mine wasn't?

SL's vote was the first in the game. Yours was when there was already a wagon on Sl (You were the 5th vote on the guy). If you really want me to believe that your vote on him was random you need to be shot. And SL's vote was clearly a random joke vote (with the choice of person just based on previous experience) as it was the FIRST vote of the game.

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Sidenote; I don't wanna lynch twito as his action earlier in trying to get MC to show some activity seemed more of a concerned townie attitude than that of a scummie jerkwad and that his hammer, while idiotic, does not mean i think we shoudl go after him and finish him off on this day without considering alternatives.

Alternatives like you.

Unvote, Vote Olio (for emphasis)

[Battle Mage]

i think Irrumator is getting WAY too stressed over this game. He certainly seems keen to defend Twito, which would imply that they were a Mafia pair.
The way he OMGUSSed me on behalf of Twito had the air of a very over-protective noob-scum.
Im going to stick to my current vote, but Irrumator is definitely worthy of a

HOS: Irrumator

[spectrumvoid]

A bland Vote count!

Twito: 4 (olio, BM, CPE, Canucklehead17)
CPE: 1 (Twito)
BM: 1 (mariyta)
olio: 1 (irrumator)

11 alive, 6 to lynch.
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[Mariyta]

I really don't think lynching Twito is going to do anything for us...

[Battle Mage]

err except killing another Mafioso.

I really don't think lynching Twito is going to do anything for us...

[Twito]

Sorry but being so obviously protown I feel highly offended by the wagon on me. No arguments have been presented for me to defend againts and like said if that's what it takes I will die for that hammer

So BM your assumed scumgroup atm is SL with me and irrumator?

[Battle Mage]

yeh u guys would be my prime suspects, though i am quite willing to change my mind, if either of you two can come up with a good defence.

Sorry but being so obviously protown I feel highly offended by the wagon on me. No arguments have been presented for me to defend againts and like said if that's what it takes I will die for that hammer

So BM your assumed scumgroup atm is SL with me and irrumator?

[irrumator]

i think Irrumator is getting WAY too stressed over this game. He certainly seems keen to defend Twito, which would imply that they were a Mafia pair.
The way he OMGUSSed me on behalf of Twito had the air of a very over-protective noob-scum.
Im going to stick to my current vote, but Irrumator is definitely worthy of a

HOS: Irrumator

If you really think that any mafia allied with twito would defend him after day 1, you are surely mistaken. Especially in a no reveal game (where the benefits of himb eing revealed as town upon lynched are null and void.)

Seriously......

[olio]

I think my post pretty clearly says that I didn't think that vote being a joke one. Why do you presume it was a joke vote?

Because it was his first freaking post. One assumes that that early in the game is the RANDOM VOTING stage, and as such all votes should be taken much more lighter.

One can assume whatever one wants. If you take such a vote lightly, it doesn't mean everyone else should take it lightly.

Notice your comment accuses them both "you two" of being closed minded. So when Sl responds, how is he responding for twito? I'm sorry but you're viewpoint is very incorrect here.

In my opinion SL never presented a question to Twito which he said I was making up a defense for. I viewed the situation as SL speaking on behalf of Twito.

If you really want me to believe that your vote on him was random you need to be shot. And SL's vote was clearly a random joke vote (with the choice of person just based on previous experience) as it was the FIRST vote of the game.

Where did you get the idea I want to you believe such a thing? I'm glad you're so adamant with your view about SL's random joke vote, but unfortunately you won't ever have 100% proof for it.

Our views differ, just accept that.

Sidenote; I don't wanna lynch twito as his action earlier in trying to get MC to show some activity seemed more of a concerned townie attitude than that of a scummie jerkwad and that his hammer, while idiotic, does not mean i think we shoudl go after him and finish him off on this day without considering alternatives.

Are you referring to Twito's random joke vote (according to your logic) he made against MC? Do you think concerned townie would've hammered like that?

Alternatives like you.

Unvote, Vote Olio (for emphasis)

Can you elaborate your reasoning behind that vote, please?

[olio]

I really don't think lynching Twito is going to do anything for us...

Why?

[irrumator]

I think my post pretty clearly says that I didn't think that vote being a joke one. Why do you presume it was a joke vote?

Because it was his first freaking post. One assumes that that early in the game is the RANDOM VOTING stage, and as such all votes should be taken much more lighter.

One can assume whatever one wants. If you take such a vote lightly, it doesn't mean everyone else should take it lightly.

I think we should all agree to take the first vote in the game lightly.

Notice your comment accuses them both "you two" of being closed minded. So when Sl responds, how is he responding for twito? I'm sorry but you're viewpoint is very incorrect here.

In my opinion SL never presented a question to Twito which he said I was making up a defense for. I viewed the situation as SL speaking on behalf of Twito.

No see, He said you were defending your scumbuddy, masterchef (Now BM). Not twito. Nothing to do with twito.

If you really want me to believe that your vote on him was random you need to be shot. And SL's vote was clearly a random joke vote (with the choice of person just based on previous experience) as it was the FIRST vote of the game.

Where did you get the idea I want to you believe such a thing? I'm glad you're so adamant with your view about SL's random joke vote, but unfortunately you won't ever have 100% proof for it.

Our views differ, just accept that.

Umm Do you remember saying Re yours and his votes this?

So, please clarify this: Why do you think SL's vote was a joke/random one and mine wasn't?

THIS seems like you want your 5th vote on the eventual lynch to be considred a joke vote. Which is rediculous.

As oppiosed to SL's which was clearly the 1st post in the game, and had no merit. There is NO situation where that vote had any meaning, regardless of Sl's alignment. If you are trying to justify the SL lynch via that reason, you sound like scum to me.

Sidenote; I don't wanna lynch twito as his action earlier in trying to get MC to show some activity seemed more of a concerned townie attitude than that of a scummie jerkwad and that his hammer, while idiotic, does not mean i think we shoudl go after him and finish him off on this day without considering alternatives.

Are you referring to Twito's random joke vote (according to your logic) he made against MC? Do you think concerned townie would've hammered like that?

"Concerned" townie no. But "Mafia scum" no as well. Probably more like "idiot townie"

Alternatives like you.

Unvote, Vote Olio (for emphasis)

Can you elaborate your reasoning behind that vote, please?

A. Your insistance on assuming that SL's vote, the first of the game was nonrandom, had justification, and therefore led you to wagon him.
B. Your nonsensical questions about defending twito, when he attacked you for defending MC, and you attacked both of them in the first place.
C. Your attempt to quicklynch another player (Twito) and your lack of helpful posts. Half your posts are simply "Why?" or some varient of. Give us your own views, and they better be intellegent, unlike day 1.

I feel comfortable with my vote.

[Mariyta]

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

[Battle Mage]

and lynching me, a protown player, will get us everywhere amirite?

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

[Mariyta]

If you were a protown player, no, it wouldn't. But since you're scum, I think we'd be doing quite well. Mmmk? Move along.

[Battle Mage]

lol u sound very sure. Would you like to provide evidence of your accusation?
I could use a good laugh.

If you were a protown player, no, it wouldn't. But since you're scum, I think we'd be doing quite well. Mmmk? Move along.

[Twito]

and lynching me, a protown player, will get us everywhere amirite?

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

You must have mixed me with yourself.
And you are honestly starting to annoy me with all that flat out bad logic of yours in all games I'm with you. No offence. Or maybe a little bit.

[Twito]

Now can we just lynch CPE coz he is scum? Also he seems to be missing along with plenty of other people. And I'd like him here to defend himself so I could be 100% sure of his scumminess. Or maybe I'm wrong and his future defence looks protown but me being wrong is highly unlikely.

MOD: Looks like we are missing some people here maybe prods in order.

[creampuffeater]

I still think twito is scummy, for the fast hammer, though BM could easily be scum.

[olio]

I think we should all agree to take the first vote in the game lightly.

Sure, if you want to think inside the box.

In my opinion SL never presented a question to Twito which he said I was making up a defense for. I viewed the situation as SL speaking on behalf of Twito.

No see, He said you were defending your scumbuddy, masterchef (Now BM). Not twito. Nothing to do with twito.

You fail to see the word "questions" there. SL accused me of making up defenses about

questions

directed to MC. In my opinion SL never presented a question to MC. Twito did. Please show me a question SL made to MC.

So, please clarify this: Why do you think SL's vote was a joke/random one and mine wasn't?

THIS seems like you want your 5th vote on the eventual lynch to be considred a joke vote. Which is rediculous.

Your assumption is wrong. My point was simple: you think SL's first vote is a joke/random one, when there's nothing implicating such a thing in my opinion. When I put in my first vote, you are sure it's not a joke/random one. My point is: you think inside the box when you view first votes as joke/random ones.

As oppiosed to SL's which was clearly the 1st post in the game, and had no merit. There is NO situation where that vote had any meaning, regardless of Sl's alignment. If you are trying to justify the SL lynch via that reason, you sound like scum to me.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've never tried to justify SL's lynch.

Are you referring to Twito's random joke vote (according to your logic) he made against MC? Do you think concerned townie would've hammered like that?

"Concerned" townie no. But "Mafia scum" no as well. Probably more like "idiot townie"

In the long run you get better player if you always assume that everyone plays as good as they can. By the way, do you think Twito's first vote was a random and joke one?

A. Your insistance on assuming that SL's vote, the first of the game was nonrandom, had justification, and therefore led you to wagon him.
B. Your nonsensical questions about defending twito, when he attacked you for defending MC, and you attacked both of them in the first place.
C. Your attempt to quicklynch another player (Twito) and your lack of helpful posts. Half your posts are simply "Why?" or some varient of. Give us your own views, and they better be intellegent, unlike day 1.

A. Wrong. I vote SL because he didn't answer my question.
B. Wrong. You just don't get it, accept the fact. Show me a question SL presented to MC and which in your opinion he meant when he talked about "making up defense for questions directed to your scumbuddy".
C. Interesting. Do you remember this:

I swear....i can't believe you guys.....this is a no reveal game, so we need to get information out of people. And your attitude is certainly not condusive to that.

I've found questioning people is a good way to get information. Don't you agree with that?

[olio]

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

Nice generalization there. I guess Twito has already triumphed over you in every game you'll ever play with him.

[Battle Mage]

actually my logic is fine ty. I dont know all the master scum-tells, but the fact is, i hunt scum. And imo, im pretty damn good at it.

and lynching me, a protown player, will get us everywhere amirite?

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

You must have mixed me with yourself.
And you are honestly starting to annoy me with all that flat out bad logic of yours in all games I'm with you. No offence. Or maybe a little bit.

[Cheesefan]

actually my logic is fine ty. I dont know all the master scum-tells, but the fact is, i hunt scum. And imo, im pretty damn good at it.

and lynching me, a protown player, will get us everywhere amirite?

Because lynching Twito never gets us anywhere.

You must have mixed me with yourself.
And you are honestly starting to annoy me with all that flat out bad logic of yours in all games I'm with you. No offence. Or maybe a little bit.

Such laughs i had at this post, such laughs.

[spectrumvoid]

Prodding canucklehead17, milkman, ubertimmy, zindaras. Did I miss out anyone?