Mini 1452 - Inevitable Mafia (Game Over)

[gorckat]

I'm gonna fish like a mother fucker.

CD-scum may have opted to vote Bro-scum once it appeared there were cold feet on Bro lynch- it goes through and he pops you at night and boom- CD-scum GF rides into the sunset.

RC-scum buddying the shit out of CD-town with fake results can't keep his shit straight and goes inno>info suggesting not gf>a reason he's not>just an inno.

Do you really think gorc-scum pulled off Bro-town without letting Cooldog get in and vote or not?

[BROseidon]

Do you really think gorc-scum pulled off Bro-town without letting Cooldog get in and vote or not?

I think you mean RC. You pulled off when the wagon was you+ThAd+CD.

Where the fuck is rofl I need to have a chat with him.

Oh yeah and notice how ThAd is lurking the fuck out of this right now.

[gorckat]

Yep- I thought CD voted after I bailed. Same diff, essentially. It was a lynch ready to happen.

Thad has an abyssmal number of posts for a player in the whole game and rofl only has a few more after replacing in ~10 pages.

There's reason to be skeptical on everyone at the moment.

Bro- thoughts on the rest of my badgering on RC?

[BROseidon]

It's making me a lot less comfortable about both RC and CD.

Assuming we have 2 scum left, I know that it can't be rofl because he didn't hammer me. You are now making a lot less sense as remaining scum because you had a lynch on me pretty much guaranteed, but you pulled off. If you're scum, that isn't even a good WIFOM move, it's just bad play, which makes me think you're not scum. No way you're so terrible as to give up a game that is yours.

That means that it would have to be 2/3 of ThAd/RC/CD, and something about RC's investigate is be off. This would mean either that CD is in fact a godfather, or that RC is lying about his role (or I guess both could technically be true).

I need to think about this, and I'd like rofl to weigh in because he's the only person I can fully trust at this point.

[gorckat]

I actually remembered rofl wrong- Cooldog has an atrociously low post count. rofl isn't terrible, actually.

[BROseidon]

The remaining players rank as RC>you>me>rofl>CD>ThAd as far as post count goes.

Considering that I am a fairly low post-count player, that looks really bad for CD/ThAd.

[RadiantCowbells]

Stop messing around and lynch Gorckat.

[gorckat]

Wanna take a stab at explaining why your statements on CD varied so much?

[RadiantCowbells]

You know I won't.

[gorckat]

K.

Your pre-claim and post-claim day 1 look like Jeremy Wade, seeking 'others with killing powers' and accusing someone of being a roleblocker.

[BROseidon]

I'm not doing anything until I have a talk with rofl.

[ThAdmiral]

@ rc: any day for the last few days I would have happily lynched gork. But I'm thinking its rofl/bro now. In any case I know that bro is scum based on poe, so I really can't accept any other lynch today.

Basically from where you are sitting you should also choose from me and bro, because one of us has to be scum and the other town. We can decide about rofl/gork tomorrow.

[ThAdmiral]

I have to have another look but I think the only possible teams are rofl/bro, gork/bro, me/gork.

[BROseidon]

ThAd, why are you so certain that RC is telling the truth and CD is not the godfather?

[RadiantCowbells]

Au contraire, Bro, why do you think me or CD are scum?

Even if I didn't have an inno I would be inclined to think he was town at this point.

[BROseidon]

PoE

Rofl didn't hammer, and therefore he's town. My wagon was at L-1 with you not on it despite having started the push against me for the day. gorck then chooses to unvote when I am literally about to get lynched. Therefore, it's unlikely that he's scum.

That leaves you/CD/ThAd as a probable 2 remaining scum.

[Kitoari]

Votecount #19:
Broseidon - thadmiral, CooLDoG
gorckat - roflcopter, RadiantCowbells

Not voting: gorckat, Broseidon,

[BROseidon]

Fixed. - Kit

[CooLDoG]

I actually remembered rofl wrong- Cooldog has an atrociously low post count. rofl isn't terrible, actually.

Yeah, but mine are usually longer than his. Content over quantity.

Also, jsut think about this for a second, you are going to lynch someone that we have a cop inno on in lylo. Just think about that for a second.

unvote

[gorckat]

I haven't voted RC because I am waiting for the rest of the town to weigh in on whether or not I am totally off-base or not.

Going by the simplest explanation, RC is legit because nothing contrary has come up (claims or flips), and absent GF knowledge we probably should not assume one 'just because'.

That said, RC's varying statements based on his results make me skeptical. It wasn't a simple waver between 'innocent' and 'not scum', but it was 'inno' and 'have info he is not a GF' which are not the same thing at all.

I can imagine scenarios that is possible, but it does not align with what has been claimed and leads to a 'lynch all liars' position because it would mean information was obfuscated at a point it should not have been and landed us (or at least me) here.

[RadiantCowbells]

My logic is absolutely nothing to do with my role. I have a cop inno on CoolDog; that's it.

I have further information based purely on setup speculation and the knowledge that this save was approved that suggests that CoolDog is not a godfather.

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't voted RC because I am waiting for the rest of the town to weigh in on whether or not I am totally off-base or not.

Going by the simplest explanation, RC is legit because nothing contrary has come up (claims or flips), and absent GF knowledge we probably should not assume one 'just because'.

That said, RC's varying statements based on his results make me skeptical. It wasn't a simple waver between 'innocent' and 'not scum', but it was 'inno' and 'have info he is not a GF' which are not the same thing at all.

I can imagine scenarios that is possible, but it does not align with what has been claimed and leads to a 'lynch all liars' position because it would mean information was obfuscated at a point it should not have been and landed us (or at least me) here.

I have said nothing at all to do with my results; I have a cop inno on CoolDog. You are twisting my words to suggest that I have said something else.

Further, lets assume there IS a Godfather in the game. Does that mean CoolDog is him? Not any more likely than anyone else, and I daresay less likely because on D1 a Godfather would NOT have claimed VT under threat of lynch. That is just idiotic; they would have claimed a lesser power role, particularly after there was a known invest and asked to have been checked after the mason died.

CoolDog didnt do anything to bait the investigate and is thus almost certainly not a Godfather.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, optimal GF play by far would have been to kill one of the masons N1, let me shoot rob, then ask to be investigated the next night to get a cleared scum.

CoolDog scum doesnt make sense at all; end story.

Gorckat continues to talk to me like I am town while pushing suspicion onto me. That is like the biggest scumtell in the game; check Newbie 1478 for an example of me using it. Please lynch him.

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't voted RC because I am waiting for the rest of the town to weigh in on whether or not I am totally off-base or not.

If you think I am scum why the fuck do you care what the town thinks you make the town follow your reads not follow what other people think.

Unless you don't actually care about scumhunting, that is.

[gorckat]

I have said nothing at all to do with my results; I have a cop inno on CoolDog. You are twisting my words to suggest that I have said something else.

I have information that I can't give at this point in time that suggests CoolDog is 100% not godfather.

Oh, my bad.