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[kdowns]

There is a reason why I am staying away from Legacy. Recently started getting into Modern.

[Klazam]

It was before it shot up.

GP Indy top 8 with dredge

Not a budget deck too.

[Thestatusquo]

I repeat. Legacy is, in the long run, much cheaper than other formats.

[Klazam]

I repeat. Legacy is, in the long run, much cheaper than other formats.

QFT

[kdowns]

I understand this. I might start building Deathblade but isn't that dying or people are just beefing up there sideboards for it?

[kdowns]

I understand this. I might start building Deathblade but isn't that dying or people are just beefing up there sideboards for it?

[Thestatusquo]

Deathblade is fine. Legacy meta cycles. I doubt there will ever be a legacy meta where there isn't some form of esper control deck that abuses stoneforge mystic.

[Thestatusquo]

Although, from talking to you, I wonder if deathblade suits your play style. You always seem to be talking about piloting more aggressive decks. I would suggest something like RUG delver if I'm reading that right.

[Klazam]

RUG delver is the deck im most scared of playing against.

So many ways to beat me, regardless of what i use, and i think it has the best sideboard out of all decks.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I would suggest sleeving up a whole bunch of legacy decks proxied (elves!, Show and Tell, Deathblade, RUG delver, Shardless BUG, Tin Fins, Goblins, Fish, Maverick, Storm, Death And Taxes to name just a few) and play a couple games with each just to get a feel for which ones you enjoy playing before you start dropping money on cards. Nothing sucks more than dropping a couple bills on a couple gaea's cradles or show and tells to find out you don't even enjoy playing the deck that much.

Also, if you have a legacy scene in your area, get to know those players. Tell them you're interested in getting into the format. Most legacy players get super excited about getting new people involves, so you'll probably find at least a few of them willing to lend you decks/play against your proxied lists to help you figure out which direction you want to go. That's how I got into legacy in Chicago. A friend of mine just straight up loaned me over 2000$ RUG delver list for an SCG and I just fell in love with it.

[Thestatusquo]

Also Also, buddy of mine is rocking a sweet Ral Zarek-Stasis list. If I go to an SCG sometime in the near future, and I can borrow Jace's from someone, I'll probably play that. Just for the lulz.

[kdowns]

I have a couple of friends playing Merfolk and Dredge. I met David Thomas at SCG Dallas back in January and talked to him a bit then about legacy and told me if I wanted to ever get into the legacy scene around Houston he'd show me around. He actually did play test with me back then a little with my friend's Merfolk and the Infect deck I was borrowing from a Team mate.

[PJ.]

Shea, what should I pilot in Legacy?

[bv310]

I love Rise draft.

[Fate]

Are there any aggro Zoo type legacy lists? I know in Modern there's a bunch of kird ape.decs, but it doesnt seem like creature based strategies do much work in legacy

[Sudo_Nym]

From what I remember, Zoo is a thing in Legacy. So are Goblins, Elves, and Dragon Stompy. None of them may be tops right now, but all are viable to play. Most successful aggro does trade some of Zoo's pure aggression for some sort of combo reach- my favorite is the Zombie Bombardment deck.

[Fate]

dragon stompy you say.....

[xRECKONERx]

!

[Thestatusquo]

I don't think all or even most decks do that, Sudo.

The only one which that is really true for that is a top tier deck is Elves! but that does has sort of been a pseudo-combo deck in every format its been in.

RUG delver and goblins are both very aggressive decks that don't have any sort of combo element.

The issue with decks like the one you mention, fate, is that they don't really have the tools to fight combo without U or B. A straight up aggressive zoo deck will almost always just lose to combo. You're playing three colors, and the two you're not playing are objectively the two best colors in the history of magic.

Which is not a debate, it's just true. In terms of all time, blue and black and just strictly better than anything else. Basically what I'm trying to say is that in legacy just balls to the walls aggression isn't good enough. The combo decks are just as fast if not faster than you are, so you need to pack significant disruption to get there.

I just looked through like 10 weeks of SCG open results and couple find a deck like that in the top 16. Sorrrries.

Dragon Stompy hasn't really been a deck in years.

[Nuwen]

I will GIVE AND DO anything to kill people with a fleet of dragons.

[Fate]

that's fair, and to be expected I guess. Blue is sort of the "magic" color

MonoR goblins is a deck though right? or still thinking modern

[Sudo_Nym]

Well, I'm using "combo" fairly loosely. It's been a while since I've been a part of the legacy scene, but the aggro decks that were best for me were the ones that had something to reach for the last few points. It's also entirely possible that a lot of the decks I'm used to simply aren't around anymore, of course.

[Thestatusquo]

mono red goblins (though often splashing W for thalia) is a deck. A very good one that can do very well in a field without too much combo. Same with mono red burn.

IIRC dragon stompy doesn't actually play dragons. I don't remember where the name comes from.

Also, if that is your goal, DRAGON SHIFT.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I played Faerie stompy for a long time back in the day. It looks something like this:

22 Mana
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
9 Island
4 Chrome Mox
1 Seat of the Synod

18 Creatures
1 Shoreline Ranger
3 Cloud of Faeries
4 Serendib Efreet
4 Sea Drake
4 Trinket Mage
2 Weatherseed Faeries

20 Other Spells
4 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Force of Will
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Pithing Needle
2 Psionic Blast

[Thestatusquo]

Neat Trick with Sea Drake is that since it says 2 target lands, and not up to two target lands, if you play it with a mox and either tomb or city, you don't have to return anything. Turn 1 4/3 flier!