Mini 1475: War in the Middle East Mafia (Game Over)

[Majiffy]

Your Troubles Will Cease (3): waynegg, killerjester, BROseidon
Baezu (3): Your Troubles Will Cease, rhyx, Salt n Pepper
killerjester (1): Baezu
waynegg (1): T S O
Not Voting: Ten_Heavens, FuDuzn, Marquis

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, August 5th at 9 PM Eastern Time.

[Majiffy]

Currently seeking a replacement for FuDuzn by request.

[waynegg]

Oh great...

[Majiffy]

I have pretty good success at finding replacements, I wouldn't be too worried.

If need be, I can always resort to groveling.

[waynegg]

That oh great was directed at 199 Maj. I thought someone just bombed somebody, lol!

[Baezu]

It's actually funny how in all of my town games everyone always pegs me as scum. I guess I put off that vibe?

How about in your scum games?

People don't usually think I'm scum in those games. Ironic.

[Ten_Heavens]

What part about my reasons for voting YTWC feels like sheeping?

When Fudn first came into the thread waynegg voted him to start things off, then you jumped on it. That's understandable, put a little pressure on the new player get the game going. Next when YTMC supposedly made a "scumslip", which I don't see it, TSO didn't see it and I'm sure a lot of people don't. But regardless you jumped on and voted YTMC. This whole day you've done nothing but make remarks on how waynegg is town, 100% town. Only 2 scenarios here about you, scum or cop. Leaning towards the former.

[killerjester]

3rd scenario, RTFT

I also gave my own reasons for voting YTMC

[waynegg]

Here's something. Is FuDuzn plaing in any other games? Like, did he replace out because he felt like he screwed up his game here and gave himself up? I mean one minute he drops in and says he's gonna catch up real quick and catch in then he goes and replaces out.

[waynegg]

Yep. He's active in all his other games. I usually assign null to replacing out, but this looks sketchy to me. So yeah, into the old scum bucket. Would like to discuss if anyone has a different opinion.

[Ten_Heavens]

Ya YTWC gonna call bullshit on that one, "Oh wow I bet that dayvig 24 hours into D1 was totally town-originated," is literally the last thing I would ever think right before my brain melted down from the sheer stupidity of having such a thought.

Furthermore, since you've stated that it's badplay even for

scum-factions

to waste a dayvig in this manner (better kept for Mylo, Lylo, etc...) it's really odd that you would only specify badtown.

VOTE: YTWC

What? is this your reason? That YTWC's thought that the dayvig was town? Well guess what. Our 100% town player admitted that he dayvigged amrun.

So what now? Your reasoning for voting YTWC is gone.

[waynegg]

Except that there was absolutely no reason from a town perspective to even consider a town player would do that. That post was fishing. He very plainly knew too much and tried to slide it in on the cool, probably thinking it safe to do so be ause any town who did that would never come forward anyhow. I mean, he didnt even give a moment's pause in his post to even consider scum as the culprit. He slipped. Hes caught. It didn't work.

I've never been one to suspect someone because they disagree with me or don't understand or feel the results of one of my plays. This isn't one of those times. This is like a dot-to-dot of a triangle with dots only at the points. Your insistence on "not seeing" this is really beginning to be suspect.

[waynegg]

BRO. Looking at 210, should I bring lie spotting into play?

[killerjester]

What? is this your reason? That YTWC's thought that the dayvig was town? Well guess what. Our 100% town player admitted that he dayvigged amrun.

The point I made was not about YTWC being right/wrong about which alignment the dayvig was. The point was about him scolding a hyptothetical townvig, and ONLY townvig, for bad play. From an unbiased, town perspective, a quick dayvig D1 is sub-optimal play for any alignment: badtown because you've ended D1 with hardly any info and you're most likely to shoot town, badscum because you've shot your load too quick when it would be better spent 1) bringing MyLo/LyLo unexpectedly one day sooner or 2) right before you're about to be lynched.

#87 shows YTWC was aware that a goodscum would not dayvig in such a manner. But if this is true, why does he not also state, "if whoever nuked Amrun is [scum], you should probably feel bad" [because you wasted a dayvig]. Or state that the dayvig was bad for any alignment, "whoever nuked Amrun should probably feel bad" ? Because he already knows the dayvig isn't scum; because he is scum himself.

[waynegg]

Besides, KJ's avatar makes my ginie tingle.

[waynegg]

Did a South Park reference make it all awkward again or something?

[Salt n Pepper]

DP Head catching up

Majiffy's VC. Lazy or brilliant? LOL

Since when was being sarcastic a scum tell?
For the record, the beetlejuice thing for me makes sense, but its not exclusive to scum players and youre using a tell applicable to long days in a game with 9 pages. Bad.

145 killer of course there is no scum motivation in wasting a day vig. Its the potential fake claim that has scum motivation. For one, why would a townie waste a vig kill on freaking day 1 with no info what so ever?? Pitoli reads him as town, I have him as null for that. Potential WIFOM-y fakeclaiming and all. We do both agree that if he was town, then it was really stupid. Its TSO's reason for voting that troubles me. He never actually called him scum now did he?

I do agree that YTWC's claim that its not scum who killed was pretty slip-ish. But I doubt scum would say that. Scum would actually, you know, call scum on said player? That makes more sense right?
Bad read list from Baezu. Too many null or leaning reads, which read to me as not being able to commit or being too scared to take a stance. Oh Pi voted for me, good vote ^_^

[Salt n Pepper]

ok. I've thoroughly reread the entire thread and re-evaluated my previous post. This is the latest scrutiny of the thread. Here goes:

Ten heavens and Fuduzn, truly haven't said much of anything - null

Nice waynegg is 100% town.

I like your style. I don't think he is, but you are.

VOTE: Baezu
Well that wasn't incredibly awkward and stilted. Want to change your mind again?

YTWC: What makes you think jester is town?

TSO - This post made me feel like you didn't even read the paltry 7 pages before making it.

hello, my people.

waynegg seems ...off. Quite off indeed.

Watch this space.

YTWC is a potential Town, but not quite sure. I need a re-read.

How did Wayne seem off? wtf is "watch this space" for?

Marquis, rhyx both town.

Wayne I believe him and I find his logic interesting. town

Salt and Pepper null leaning scum

I don't see the case on YTWC, dont see the mountainous scumslip waynegg has made out of the molehill.

Do you see a valid "case" on any player at this point?

Because if you can honestly right more than 2-3 lines about why anyone is scum at this point I'd be super impressed. We are functionally still in early day 1 as far as scumhunting goes.

This post validates stupid votes, stupid cases, and laziness as far as I'm concerned.

- pi

I agree with rhyx. I think wayne is making a bigger deal out of YTWC. How is any of it lazy?

Bro - null

Killerjester - At first, i thought he was the one who did the vigkill. He brought it up first as a question (post 45) then it looked like he was going to use post 69 to cover up that it was him.

Nice waynegg is 100% town.

VOTE: FuDuzn

I find this post ridiculous. Voting for Fuduzn with no explanation whatsoever. Also, he had already mentioned that he felt we were no longer in RVS. So a serious vote on someone with nothing to go on? Then I asked him to explain it. He just reiterated and gave me this:

^^Why are you saying Wayne is 100% town?

I actually think he's leaning more and more scum.

He's as town as he'll ever be this game. I don't care if I flip on every other read in the game, I'm never changing my mind about waynegg.

Why do you think he's scum?

Again, no real information, just reiteration. Let me answer your question. I don't think Wayne is scum. I think he's town. Why? cuz he explained his vigkill, he's scumhunting. he has been active and questioning. This is why I think he's town. So again, I want you to explain that post given in the context of when you said it - before Wayne was outed as vig. What made you post that when you did? All I can think of - scum

VOTE: KillerJester

Current reads:

Wayne town
TSO scummy
YTWC null

Salt and pepper town

rhyx town
killerjester null
Bro null

Everyone else - not enough info

Please let me know if you want me to elaborate on any of these.

Whutt? Yep, typical scum "readlist for the sake of a readlist"

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

The point was about him scolding a hyptothetical townvig, and ONLY townvig, for bad play.

To put it one way, I don't give a fuck if scum go for bad plays. I'd thank them for it, actually.

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

Also, seeing YTWC makes me cry out in empathy for your shift buttons. Troubles will do.

[Majiffy]

WHY WORRY ABOUT THE SHIFT BUTTON WHEN YOU CAN CAPS LOCK?

[Your Troubles Will Cease]

go home mod

[Majiffy]

Don't mind me.

[Majiffy]

Just bumping the page.

[Majiffy]

Why?