NY 166: Knight-Errant 18p - Game Over!


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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:29 pm

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Vote Count 1.11

Abdelrahman (6) - oriole, The Purple Rose, meeps, Concombre, Katarina LeBlanc, Shattered Viewpoint
notscience (2) - Human Destroyer, KX
Baldrick (2) - Vifam, notscience
Concombre (2) - Baldrick, Abdelrahman
beastcharizard (1) - Fegelein
meeps (1) - dopog

Not Voting (4) - EddieFenix, PeregrineV, Evil Regals, beastcharizard

Countdown: (expired on 2013-08-12 11:00:00).

18 alive, 10 to lynch.

Have a chess problem, if you like. Featuring our friend, the Knight.

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White to move. Mate in 4.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:28 am

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@Eddie: I just posted my reads list. Though depending on how I feel, I may go in-depth on Abdel and Beast.

@Chess Problem: Move the Queen diagonally down two spaces to the left so it is facing the first pawn. (probably done it wrong but I'm not a Chess pro)
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:27 am

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People need to post reads pls
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:29 am

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In post 261, dopog wrote: @Baldrick;
Baldrick wrote:I didn't have a scumread on you from your post.
Someone else did.
Is there a bad reason for someone not to clarify a scumread?
I know you didn't
I'm figuring this question is more asking why would I call you out for asking someone why they have a read.
Enquirying about why someone else has a certain read on someone else can be indicative of alignment, IN CONTEXT, hence why I said I'm noting it.
And it's weird that you asked about a specific person, so I felt that your question was implying something (e.g. you disagree with their read) but idek.

Farewell!
The reason I asked for the explanation of the read is because I agreed with it; I wanted to see if they had the same reason for agreeing with it as I did.

Spoiler: Chess Puzzle
1. Nf7+
Rxf7
2. Qxe8+
Rf8
3. Qxf8#
Wait, 3 moves? What?


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Quote tags fixed. - The Knight-Errant
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:47 am

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In post 277, notscience wrote:
People need to post
reads pls
In post 278, Baldrick wrote:
Spoiler: Chess Puzzle
1. Nf7+
Rxf7
2. Qxe8+
Rf8
3. Qxf8#
Wait, 3 moves? What?



-Antagon
You're forgetting Kg8. Knaive.

King has plenty of options, love.
Same goes for
Gg8+
RxG8
Nf7#
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:05 am

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Qg8* silly me.
In post 271, Fegelein wrote:This is a scum-game of his, although he subbed out:
http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthr ... -NOC-Day-2
I've read over the whole game (yes I took the time) and Fegelein's meta seems to be similar to that he is showing now. He's tunneling specific players with minimal reads to go off on which is particularly reckless towards the town. His village meta there is consistent to this game which bumps him towards a close town read.

Abdelrahman has refused to answer even the simplest of questions or even provide simple analyses and reasoning towards his case. Breadcrumbing seems a bit desperate though that does hinder my vote a bit.
In post 272, EddieFenix wrote:dopog, that is a very weak argument to try and bring to the table against Fegelein. If he thinks someone is scum and he wants to keep his vote there, then he has every right. It creates pressure. Now, besides Fege, who do you see as scum and why?
As I was reading from the game posted as well, I noticed a bit of dopog's scum meta before he was subbed out. One thing in particular is, he's scumhunting, yes. Though he blatantly ignores points raised up against up in earlier posts (I will cite when I read back). His activity is unreliable but is able to posts enough to buy him time to coast a tad more.
#52 is pretty suspicious for him. His biggest read is towards meeps though votes Abdelrahman, which then begins the bandwagon on him.

#64 from the Purple Rose
"Abdel's vote felt insincere. Many think it's alright to vote without giving a reason this early in the game, but he was doing it at the scummiest time."
it was a legitimate read but I'll focus on dopog for now.

Moving on to #205 where dopog once again stumbles in, completely disregarding Abdelrahman and his initial vote. Basically he says "I think meeps is scummy" for exactly the same reason he says and asks a few unnoteworthy questions. It just seems as if he's ignored the wagon on Abdelrahman despite his early read and is trying to trail away with a 'scumread' of his own. It was difficult to read back on your metas though this one seems all too suspicious and familiar if you ask me.
U-G-L-Y, you ain't got no alibi.

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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:06 am

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In post 265, dopog wrote:And when you say a whole post is backseat scumhunting that doesn't help because it just makes it seem as if you're just trying to blow-up the entirety of someone's reads just because you saw tendencies that are, to you, backseat scumhunting.
+ hypocrisy.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:30 am

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Katarina what do you think of me
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:06 am

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In post 282, notscience wrote:Katarina what do you think of me
I think you're cute.

Eh, tbf I don't have a super set read on you and Vifam atm. I'm entertaining the possibility of masons because..
So, what is the setup, you ask? Well, here's how it works:
The following roles are in the game.
9 Vanilla Townies
2 Masons

2 Town Power Roles
2 Mafia Goons
2 Mafia Power Roles
1 Jack-of-all-Trades Serial Killer
You two fit that the most at the moment.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:26 am

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VOTE: Katarina
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:42 am

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Fixed quote tags in 278.
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None of the above solutions to the chess problem are correct.

Fegelein: Your first move does not accomplish anything.

Baldrick: In response to 1. Nf7+ Black plays 1. ... Kg8 not 1. ... Rxf7.

Katarina: If you mean 1. Qg8+ then Black plays 1. ... Kxg8 not 1. ... Rxg8.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:44 am

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I think Knight is scum, he's trying to distract us with chess puzzles instead of allowing us to scumhunt!

In all seriousness, NS, I think I know why you're voting Katarina, but can you tell me why JIC I'm wrong?
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:49 am

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Because it looks like to me she's trying to rolefish something fierce.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:54 am

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That was indeed my guess.

NS, can you post your entire reads list?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:57 am

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It's kinda jumbled atm

I'll let you know when they get more concise, I've expressed opinions on various people
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:02 am

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I think notscience is town.

The response fegelein had to my post was what I'd expect scum to answer with, a very passive agressive approach. I haven't played with fegelein before, but this looks like textbook active scum.
vote fegelein


I can easily be convinced to lynch Katarina
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:37 am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmG-Af0LK88

It's real.

Anyway:
You failed to answer my question, completely blanking it.
You barely expand on your case in your recent post, it's one-dimensional.
You say they're insignificant things, I call it scavenging for as much tells as I can so I have a good read on everybody.
You haven't even checked my meta to see if I normally play like this (and I do as scum and Town)

Derailed. :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, you also gain scum points because this case sucks so much.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:43 am

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Oh sorry I was busy the last few days.

Anyways, if people want reads, I'll give reads:

Katarina - Null, torn at the moment.

dopog - Idk, I'm torn. While his reads make sense for the most part, his tone and his arguments seem scummy to me, and he only pops up once in a while. Leaning scum, but I am not sure.

Fegelein - Trying to somehow lead the town, but hasn't rung any bells to me yet. Leaning town.

The Purple Rose - Seems to be trying to get a lynch on anyone, and his/her arguments are stupid. Leaning scum.

meeps - Inactive, lurking. Null.

notscience - getting less trolly as the game progresses. I'll have to agree he and Vifam seem Masons. However his vote on Katarina seemed random, so I'm keeping wary.

Baldrick - Also applying proper pressure and his tone seems town.

Evil Regals - Providing good, sense-making reads. Town.

PenegrineV and EddieFenix - I'll have to see more of you guys to get a read on you.

KX - Null.

Shattered Viewpoint - Also like to see more.

HD - Where the hell are you?

Beast - Counter-defensive arguments against Fege's cases. Would like to see more, but for now leaning scum.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:18 am

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hey, you.

explain why we're scum. so far all I have is that we tried to hammer you, which 1) never happened, and 2) doesn't even make any fucking sense considering our vote only put you at L-6.

the worse this gets the more I want a Beast lynch.

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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:19 am

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

STOP THE FUCKING ROLEFISHING AND TRYING TO GET ME AND VIFAM SHOT >.>
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:21 am

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Lol.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:43 am

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white moves his knight to f7, king to g8 (slaying it with the rook gives the solution in 3 by slaying the other rook with the queen)
then knight to h6, king back to h8 (only out)
queen to g8, slain by the rook (king can't slay because it's covered by the knight)
knight to f7, mate.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:43 am

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Comments on the actual game, please.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:45 am

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In post 291, Fegelein wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmG-Af0LK88

It's real.

Anyway:
You failed to answer my question, completely blanking it.
You barely expand on your case in your recent post, it's one-dimensional.
You say they're insignificant things, I call it scavenging for as much tells as I can so I have a good read on everybody.
You haven't even checked my meta to see if I normally play like this (and I do as scum and Town)

Derailed. :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, you also gain scum points because this case sucks so much.
If they were significant, people would respond, be angry, discuss stuff with you, and sometimes on MS, agree with you.

Nobody does, they just let you talk. Your "tells" cause nothing, it just a wave of irrelevant information. Hence, you are active looking scum.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:47 am

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In post 297, notscience wrote:Comments on the actual game, please.
7 posts ago, that's not that bad NS.

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