Death's Diner -Game Over-

[Slandaar]

Titus: Yes the fundamental differences were the issue. (your fundamentals are bad I hope you realise this) Did you go and reread to reassess things now you know how others view things?

[Slandaar]

@Titus/Slandaar: Wanna group on the wolf?

I prefer my vote where it is.

Anyway, I do think Jabarkus has been acting

weird

- the overreaction on the votes, the overly defensive attitude, the comment on Slandaar.

Its one of these things scum do, like when they call people anti-town instead of scum it is using the wrong wording or they say pro-town instead of town.

Town say I think jabs is scum for x or acting scummy etc.

[Rift Adrift]

Rift, 'independent thought = scum' trying to suggest I can't change my mind is beyond bad also.

Syryana has meta reasons to think that your backing off titus looked odd.

My reasons had to do with your trajectory. It was not at all clear what caused you to back off. And it was a back-off, not a change in direction due to some other player catching your attention as appearing more scummy.

Your posts today give some post hoc trajectory, which allays some of my suspicion.

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

@Titus/Slandaar: Wanna group on the wolf?

I prefer my vote where it is.

Anyway, I do think Jabarkus has been acting

weird

- the overreaction on the votes, the overly defensive attitude, the comment on Slandaar.

Its one of these things scum do, like when they call people anti-town instead of scum it is using the wrong wording or they say pro-town instead of town.

Town say I think jabs is scum for x or acting scummy etc.

This is good, even though Jabarkas typically doesn't rely on rhetoric tells.

-V

[Titus]

@Slandaar – I did reread but I still don't get why their FoS or why my actions would have deterred anything legitimate. Usually when I encounter facts or suggestions that alter my view of things it takes me awhile to work out the cognitive dissonance. This is one of the pros to this site as to my other site with 24 hour days. On that site decisions must be made fast and with certainty.

I don't like how sheepy Varsoon head is being. He says every other post is good.

[StubbsKVM]

I get that a lot. I usually find myself agreeing with others instead of finding scum myself. I'm trying though.

I would think that most of it is about Titus actually.

Everyone who was active yesterday has a shitton of posts about titus. In looking at what else you've posted a lot of it is to jabarkus, including posts asking their thoughts about titus.

You're townreading him apparently.

What are your other reads?

Town:(from high to low)
Amrun
Jabarkas
Rift Adrift
Broseidon
Rofl
Zoidberg
Slandaar

The whole Titus-TD thing is sort of weird to me. But not taking that into account Titus is scum. Tiphaine is too chaotic to have a proper read on.

Ghostly Penguin bothers me. Very little content, but took the time to comment on the buddying thing. No reads whatsoever.

Everyone else has barely posted or hasn't made much of an impression.

P-Edit: Slandaar moving up

[TiphaineDeath]

Yeah, aright I've seen enough.

VOTE: stubbs

This man needs rope.

@jabs/titus, Leave the wolf alone for now, it's a lurker and will come be useful later. If it doesn't we'll cattle prod it. Come join my stubbs wagon, for great justice!

[roflcopter]

@Titus/Slandaar: Wanna group on the wolf?

I prefer my vote where it is.

Anyway, I do think Jabarkus has been acting

weird

- the overreaction on the votes, the overly defensive attitude, the comment on Slandaar.

Its one of these things scum do, like when they call people anti-town instead of scum it is using the wrong wording or they say pro-town instead of town.

Town say I think jabs is scum for x or acting scummy etc.

This is good, even though Jabarkas typically doesn't rely on rhetoric tells.

-V

this is worthy of a qft and

unvote, vote: baezu

thinking on it more the titus thing will more than likely work itself out

[TiphaineDeath]

Hey rofl, come vote stubbs with me, at the very least it forces him in to the spotlight for a bit yeh?

[Amrun]

Baezu wagon is good, but I'm emotionally attached to Titus wagon and I'm not unvoting for no good reason.

[Amrun]

Tiphaine, why against putting Baezu in the spotlight for a bit?

[roflcopter]

tiphaine goes back on the death list (for the third time) when baezu flips scum

amrun i felt the same way but between titus' softclaims and td's crazyness re: titus/jabarkus i think getting through night one will shed a lot more light on them

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

Jabarkas all for a Baezu or a Stubbs wagon.
Except Jabarkas know Stubbs is around to respond to it, so:

Vote: Stubbs

@Titus: Eh, sheep when people have same ideas as yourself, not so much sheep. Town needs to agree on a pressure target.

[Rift Adrift]

@Jabs Something about an exchange? Good enough? I'm rusty on this topic but I know what you're getting at.

Ok so this is the exact sequence of events.

TD Thought he someone had tried to vig him. He thought this because he assumed that the person who activated their role wouldn't know exactly what it did. It turns out that person, Titus, knew exactly what it did, and did not try to vig me.

This is what TD realized, causing TD to believe that Titus is conf town.

Then TD looked through Jabs post and saw scum, wrote up a case and voted Jabs.

Then TD looked through Jabs posts again for more ammunition saw a crumb, and realized that TD had role related information that told him the role jabs crumbed was town.

Then TD threw his hands up in the air at the cluster fuck he had created because his two top scum suspects were confirmed town via role related info even though they look horribly scummy on the surface.

Then TD thought about voting roflcopter again, and decided that because of meta, rofl is unlikely to be scum.

Then TD put a vote on salandar because he looks scummy.

Whatever is going on here, I doubt it can be 100% alignment indicative in all cases. That would be a bitch to balance.

[TiphaineDeath]

I have nothing against baezu, he hasn't really jumped out at me at all this game, stubbs has, that's all.

[TiphaineDeath]

Titus role does not make sense as scum.
Jabbar is 100 percent confirmed town.
Rofl's read is meta based so that's the shakiest of the three, but i am still fairly confident.
The only true 100 percent I have is jabbar.

[Rift Adrift]

Yeah, I'm not concerned about your reads. They'll stand or fall as play continues.

[TiphaineDeath]

Kewl, wanna come vote stubbs?

[Zoidberg]

10+ pages overnight... This is going to be one of THOSE games, I can tell.

Catching up...

[Titus]

@Jabs Something about an exchange? Good enough? I'm rusty on this topic but I know what you're getting at.

Ok so this is the exact sequence of events.

TD Thought he someone had tried to vig him. He thought this because he assumed that the person who activated their role wouldn't know exactly what it did. It turns out that person, Titus, knew exactly what it did, and did not try to vig me.

This is what TD realized, causing TD to believe that Titus is conf town.

Then TD looked through Jabs post and saw scum, wrote up a case and voted Jabs.

Then TD looked through Jabs posts again for more ammunition saw a crumb, and realized that TD had role related information that told him the role jabs crumbed was town.

Then TD threw his hands up in the air at the cluster fuck he had created because his two top scum suspects were confirmed town via role related info even though they look horribly scummy on the surface.

Then TD thought about voting roflcopter again, and decided that because of meta, rofl is unlikely to be scum.

Then TD put a vote on salandar because he looks scummy.

Whatever is going on here, I doubt it can be 100% alignment indicative in all cases. That would be a bitch to balance.

I cannot do what I did again. It's a one time deal.

[StubbsKVM]

So now you're begging people to vote me?
What have I done to deserve such an honour?

[Rift Adrift]

Kewl, wanna come vote stubbs?

After a synch I imagine we'll put our vote somewhere.

p-edit titus, I'm not talking about your PR. I'm talking about TD being able to assume people are town based on his role. Doesn't make sense to me that he'd be able to conftown a slew of players early in the game depending on what they do and when.

[TiphaineDeath]

I am only conftowning Jaba based on mine.

I am conftowning Titus based on his.

In most scenarios I would not have been able to conftown jabba, but he was smart .

Not begging Stubbs, asking . And you were scummy, a lot. I'll get back to you with a case, never fear <3.

[StubbsKVM]

This should be good.

[Jabarkas Mayonnaise]

We had a head meeting.
V thinks Stubbs needs pressure,
小龍 thinks he's too active and not opportunistic enough to be scum.
We agree Amrun is scum.
We agree TD is town.
We agree that lurkers should be pressured.

-V