Mini 1479: Perpetual MyLo II - GAME OVER!

[AdoboNation]

we can't nolynch anyway silly TIP

[AdoboNation]

anyway VOTE: Cabd

this is a good vote I think

[AdoboNation]

we are all ignoring you mollie

[AdoboNation]

VOTE: TIP

Mmmm...

not yet.

I want to see TIP's "new play"

[AdoboNation]

Actually

I'm pretty sold on the idea that TIP is town so far

VOTE: Obvious

Syry, where's the scum-claim? I don't see it

[AdoboNation]

Oh, wait.

there it is...

nvr mind

though you of all people are taking that claim seriously?

[AdoboNation]

No It's not TNE. It's Tsukasa *nudge nudge wink wink*

And I am so not the one doing all that RVS.

We should lynch N for the being MMist though

[AdoboNation]

Mutley, do you really think TIP is scum?

[AdoboNation]

Mutters

lol

[AdoboNation]

Hmmm...

Town:
TheIrishPope
AdoboNation
Sangres
wisdom
Mutley

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry

TBD:
Mutters
btn
Cabd

[AdoboNation]

I think mollie is scum

[AdoboNation]

as well

Votecount 1.4:

TheIrishPope - [3] - Syryana, MrObvious, Mutleyddmc
sangres - [2] - Cabd, N
Syryana - [1] - GuyInFreezer
MrObvious - [1] - AdoboNation
AdoboNation - [1] - Wisdom

Not voting - [4] - sangres, better than nachos, TheIrishPope, Metal Sonic

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 6 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-08-10 22:32:45)

[AdoboNation]

Who says the list is chronological?

[AdoboNation]

I'm missing MS in my list aren't I?

[AdoboNation]

oh

and GIF

Both of them to be determined

[AdoboNation]

You're special Mutley

so special, that you have make my head go all wierd

[AdoboNation]

You're weak town though

[AdoboNation]

Umm..

town?

there are no PR's, what's the use of claiming?

[AdoboNation]

Meta

Pedit: I did not put random names random groups

Because I think of everything

[AdoboNation]

Where is everyone?

I feel like the only people here are N and Mutley

[AdoboNation]

Really?

This tip is pretty laid back and isn't caring what anyone thinks of him.

I see newtownTIP using RQS but I don't think I've seen newscumtip use that yet.

a but more serious that what I am used to, though the light-hearted attitude is there, and that attitude is something scumtip Lacks.

[AdoboNation]

no

I'm saying he is trying a new style

[AdoboNation]

though, he is fairly new

[AdoboNation]

Ffery

you're killing my town-read on you

put Nacho on

[AdoboNation]

Town:
TheIrishPope
AdoboNation
wisdom
Mutley

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry
MS

Unsure:
GIF
btn
Cabd
Sangres

[AdoboNation]

Town:
TheIrishPope
AdoboNation
wisdom
Mutley
MS
GIF
Cabd

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry
btn
Sangres


This list makes me giggle, and this one is kiiinnddaaa interesting

Pedit: Cuz

lemme do my thing for a bit

[AdoboNation]

yup

both of them are mine

this is fun

[AdoboNation]

'S funny how Obvious questions Wisdom's scum-read on him while totally ignoring mine...

Hmm...

[AdoboNation]

Why did MS change piles in one post?

PoE

[AdoboNation]

Oh

I was ignoring you earlier

cuz

fuck the hydra signing discussion

[AdoboNation]

I am still amused at how you managed to sort 4 TBD's within 5 minutes.

Rite?

so am I

and yes

PoE

[AdoboNation]

what happened to your definite read on me Wisdom?

[AdoboNation]

well yeah

but I am no longer in that definte group of scum, I'm an extra choice

[AdoboNation]

Town:

TheIrishPope

AdoboNation

wisdom

Mutley

MS
GIF
Cabd

Scum:

MrObvious

N
Syry

btn

Sangres

[AdoboNation]

Mr Obvious is scum

who has made a few posts, but has yet to address me RE the reasons for me scum-reading him

[AdoboNation]

mollie is definitely scum though

Pedit: Mmm...

yeah

why'd you stop your crusade on me wisdom?

[AdoboNation]

I thought I was your Lynchee

don't you wanna win?

[AdoboNation]

Mmmm

I'm more sure about Obvious than I am sure about Nacho/ffery

I kinda like her response to me when I said she was killing my town-read on them

[AdoboNation]

I think mollie is scum

Why?

Her opening was weird, her trolling feels a bit forced, and the things she's pulling off looks like the things she was doing in Kerbie in popcorn.

She didn't respond to me at all, and her response to you was pretty serious looking, which is something I don't like

[AdoboNation]

/delayed answer

[AdoboNation]

RE TIP

No, I'm not to overtly familiar with newTIP though there is enough oldTIP residual in this current play so that, I feel comfortable with reading him using his old meta while getting a feel for his new Meta. TIP has been talking about how he is trying out a new play-style and I think it's been somewhat effective so far

Pedit: mollie, why are you not playing on the correct account?

[AdoboNation]

VOTE: better than nacho

[AdoboNation]

I need a walk through on your guys's scum-read on wisdom Nacho/Ffery because I actually do believe him to be town this game

[AdoboNation]

I actually liked his crusade on me, it felt a tad bit paranoia driven though him moving from me, and onto you guys when I wouldn't respond back to him was kinda weird

[AdoboNation]

Mollie

who's scum

why are you ignoring me?

Pedit: pretty sure, yeah

[AdoboNation]

Why?

[AdoboNation]

nacho!

[AdoboNation]

no, wait that's Ffery

Carry on

Pedit: stop posting :/

[AdoboNation]

I still want to know why exactly you're scum-reading wisdom

[AdoboNation]

Oh hey

mod finally got pagetop

congrats

[AdoboNation]

Ok. For me it's the shallowness of his attacks this morning, taking things on a post by post basis with no thought to how our stances had progressed. I also strongly disliked that he jumped to mollie's defense rather than let us engage and sort things whenever we both wound up in the thread together. One thing that really irritates me is players getting in the way of a line of questioning. In this case, even before that line could be established he took sides and did some well poisoning.

Well

I think that's wisdom just being wisdom.

I actually do think his attack on me for reading him as town within a couple posts is legit, though I do expect him to push me a whole lot harder than he was, especially as scum which is the alignment he prefers.

I do agree that him defending mollie like that was strange, and that he should have let her do it on her own though I don't think he would do such a blatant chainsaw before his own partner could do so

and, when it comes to taking sides, I kinda did the same thing with TIP and Obvious so if you're going to attack him for that, you might as well attack me for doing something similar.

I understand that him getting in the way of your questioning mollie is irritating, but how exactly does that make him scum?

[AdoboNation]

That is just about the only thing you noted from me, everything else you ignored especially my response to you when you asked why people were ignoring you

[AdoboNation]

Her thinking that it was Nacho instead of ffery in those first posts and not answering because of that is so stupid that I dont see scum-mollie making it up. It's old good lost and silly townmollie.
Also town vibes from 325.

not made up, no

but not every genuine thing is town-oriented, especially confusion as to who is posting when

also, 325 reminds me of a game where I thought mollie was town, where Nacho caught her out as scum via type of AtE she is spewing out

it is also how she acted in a game where she replaced in as scum

I don't recall town-mollie throwing out AtE like that ever

[AdoboNation]

you also didn't respond to me asking you who you think is scum

[AdoboNation]

@ Mollie

[AdoboNation]

Not to the extent that I'm seeing in this game

[AdoboNation]

You're vote was on me mollie?

[AdoboNation]

Mara, Poetic Justice micro.

Oh

right

still though, I'm not entirely sure of town-mollie here

[AdoboNation]

That the game I was scum in?

[AdoboNation]

Ffery was there

She's the one who hammered me

and scum-mollie can do stuff like that too, I'm not going to town-read her off little mistakes

[AdoboNation]

and even in that game GIF, Mollie had some posts of content by the time her and Jiffy got into an argument, here there nothing she's written is worth shit. She's asking for reads, but hasn't even given afew of her own yet

[AdoboNation]

Fuck this speed

I'll get back to putting up unexplained reads tomorrow

nacho!

thoughts on mollie?

[AdoboNation]

Decently surprised that TiP hasn't commented on our wagon and instead is tunneling on Mutley pretty fucking hard. Usually TiP and I interact quite a bit when TiP is town, but this game he's ignoring me pretty hard. I don't like it.

Nothing on my seemingly ignoring you this game?

[AdoboNation]

Up unto this point I mean

[AdoboNation]

Mara is townreading me with NO stated reason and that worries me to no end. So leaning scum for that hydra. Mara usually gives reasons for her townreads. '

Just my town reads?

Hmm...


Town:

TheIrishPope

AdoboNation

wisdom

Mutley

Syry
Sangres
Cabd

Scum:

MrObvious

N

btn

MS
GIF

[AdoboNation]

Oh

and wisdom is unbolded now too

forgot to add that change

[AdoboNation]

I'm not scum-reading C either. This does not feel like the same player that played against me in my first IC game, nor does this feel like the player that I played

with

in AMOL

I remember him telling me, post game, that he played his passive-town Meta in that game and I also know that C prefer's playing scum far more than he prefer's playing town, and he's a whole lot more better at it

I can see tiny pieces of paranoia hanging around in a few of his posts that was, more or less, absent in said games

[AdoboNation]

and no, TIP isn't changing his meta just for this game Specifically. He's talked about changing how he's going to play the game with me, not mentioning specific games and I do see subtle changes in how he approaches the game.

[AdoboNation]

The only not easy lynches that we are townreading are you and Wisdom so what exactly do you expect us to do...?

Really?

[AdoboNation]

Meanwhile, there's TiP who has not pushed a lynch or mentioned any of the harder lynches except for a small reach-out to mollie/andy which was never followed up on, and pushes on mutley and MrObvious. He doesn't have a read on me (only believes I won't be lynched), and doesn't address any of my reads. That's pushing easy lynches, GiF.

I havn't really pushed a lynch, and the only "hard-lynch" I'm pushing is mollie. I havn't really reached out to anyone at all this game, and I admitted to ignoring wisdom when he was trying to get my attention.

I've had a weak push on Obvious and, I am scum-reading Obvious because of his opportunistic looking vote on TIP while calling Mutley strong town when he's done something similar.

I'm making random-reads seemingly out of nowhere, not even explaining how or why I have those reads and they are "haphazardly" Placed without as much of a thought in between.

I'm more or less disengaged with this game, but I'm not even being called out on that by you guys. either of you guys. I would at least expect Ffery to question the motives behind my posts, especially when she is usually so incredibly paranoid of me

[AdoboNation]

VOTE: Sangres

[AdoboNation]

Oh
GIF, to answer your question from earlier, I don't really know where TNE is. I'm waiting for him to respond to me in the QT. I think school is eating up his time, I'm sure he'll come around when he has the time to.

[AdoboNation]

Oh

hello there, Mr Obvious

any comments to what's happened so far?

[AdoboNation]

I'm making random-reads seemingly out of nowhere, not even explaining how or why I have those reads and they are "haphazardly" Placed without as much of a thought in between.

And this is obviously not anything close to your scumplay.

This isn't anything remotely close to my town game either

[AdoboNation]

Sangres, Better than Nacho, N, Mr Obvious, Wisdom

[AdoboNation]

That set of players as the scum-team

OMG

[AdoboNation]

IDK, but I wouldn't put it past you

[AdoboNation]

UNVOTE:

Hi Ffery

Hi Nacho

<3

[AdoboNation]

Andy, You've read the game but you only post now?

I would like to know your personal reads in the game thus far

[AdoboNation]

Ok since I keep forgetting I exist here,

For the first 20 pages, and I don't think I'll change my opinions about this.

GiF town
Wisdom town
sangrey town

TIP scumz
Mutley prob-scumz, IDK if what he does it town-driven or scum-driven
MrObvious scumz

BTN (mostly mollie) is VBNMJPHOGBIN My god.
MS still being so lurkey
I barely see a post from Cabd and Syryana

These are my initial reads. I'll give reasons for that when I'm not busy/not lazy/someone bothers me

-Tsukasa

[AdoboNation]

Gif, It's like you don't know me at all.

-Tsukasa

[AdoboNation]

;o wisdom is scum guys

I dunno. From the games I had with wisdom, ESPECIALLY that newbie game with bacde and fuzzy, I'm pretty confident that wisdom is town

-Tsukasa

[AdoboNation]

That is alot of nulls

and he did the same thing in Hillbilly, thing is though I'm not entirely sure if that can even be used as a accurate reference because of the backwardness of the game. I don't really think it's a good example of my scum game, though it might be a decent one for my town game but IDK

Ffery, I really, really like those reads list the both of you made.

I really, really am uncomfortable with lynching TIP though. I really, really do believe that he's town though depending on what happen later on in the game, and what TNE thinks it could be dropped though it isn't going to happen today

Syry, I'm not to entirely sure. I have him as null but I am willing to lynch one of Obvious and Mollie/Andy Hydra as they are my top two scum-reads atm

I don't like Obvious's AtE post. we are all busy, we all have lives and you weren't even attacking him with that angle. Him using that as a defense is wierd

[AdoboNation]

and TNE thinks that you guys are spot on with the scum-team

[AdoboNation]

Obvious was "Mafia"

the "town" consisted of Me, TSO, and Thad

[AdoboNation]

maraposting really freaks me out
like
i expected something more friendly and nice and idk womanly from her
since she's like ALL THE HYDRAS

lol

Nice to be in a game with you Andy

Sorry I can't be what you want me to be though

people say I play like mollie, but I don't see it.

ADOBO - SERIOUSLY WHERE IS YOUR OTHER HALF.

already answered, and he's more active then you are. not really in a position to question where TNE is, though he is around

[AdoboNation]

Please tell me you are this hilarious as town too though, because the post kinda made me laugh and it'll be a shame if TownAndy can't be humorous like that

[AdoboNation]

AdoboNation - puts a lot of effort into defending TIP. also, puts a lot of effort into painting me as scum yet never votes for me. leaning vi.

VOTE: Mr. O

FTR

he says me painting him as scum, and not doing anything about it makes me a VI over making me scum. He also doesn't take into consideration that I am WK'ing TIP which is something scum-me is known to do

this sonnavabitch is scum

VOTE: Mr. O

just to make sure the vote counts

[AdoboNation]

No

I'm saying he has a good basis to scum-read me but all he does is call me a VI

[AdoboNation]

Page top! wheee

[AdoboNation]

So are TIP, syr, Mr O and mara

._.

2/5 of those people are town

figure out which

[AdoboNation]

why is wisdom scum mutters?

[AdoboNation]

Mutters

I know what your talking about, I really, really do. Trust me. I felt the exact same way in Jasons game, where I read him totally, totally wrong. Factoring how I feel about a person the way I normally do it with people doesn't work with Wisdom. I am getting my paranoid pings with wisdom this game as I normally do, it will always be there but I am looking at how he reacts to certain posts, how he responds to certain people and there are differences that I am starting to notice. differences that I hope help me read wisdom better and give me a better foundation on reading him.

Here, there is quite a bit of paranoia, bull-headedness, and cockyness that was present in the polygamy game but it's in a somewhat different form. His frustration to my earlier trolling and high amounts of shit-fuckery annoyed the fuck outta him and he didn't know how to deal with it because Mara doesn't usually do that kind of thing. It's something that he isn't used to, and it's the kind of thing people will react differently to as scum and as town.

Here, I see alot of the same frustrations to being called wisdom-town that was present in Jasons game. His vibe here is far more similar to the vibe he gave off in popcorn and in Jasons game so, even when I start loosing my grip on him, I bring those games back to memory and realize that Wisdom is town, and not scum

Nacho, I've factored in Andy's post and I'm not exactly sure what to think of that slot. They are still a scum-read, but it isn't as strong as it used to be. His catch-up post was somewhat decent and I'm trying to sort out the information from that post. There were some points that I think hold some kinda merit and I currently feel a whole lot more better on pushing Obvious than I would be pushing btn

[AdoboNation]

I don't think N is scum either Wisdom. not anymore, I don't think you should be pushing him

[AdoboNation]

N, who is scum?

[AdoboNation]

There is no reason for town to do that thing as well

however, it does serve as a way to attempt to make a person who might be hitting all the right notes look not as credible. You should know that, You've done something similar

I don't think he knows the extent of how much I play with these people, and how much they know my ability to play and catch scum otherwise he wouldn't have attempted it

[AdoboNation]

Look at this tunneling.
You know how much of a tunneler I am myself - do I do it blindly like this? I try to figure out people instead of spamming "x person is scum". Where has Metal Sonic ever tried to figure me out? He's just spamming "Wisdom is scum" and avoids to post any content, just like sangres is doing with mollie.

You had that exact same argument for scummara in Jasons game

Just because someone says a person is scum, for what seems like very little to no reason doesn't make the person scum

Sangres had a case on mollie, they posted it and it makes alot of sense. It's the exact same thing Nacho did in Two in a half men, I didn't want to believe him there but he was right.

[AdoboNation]

I've never played with Mara before, but apparently she's easy to meta so I'll have a look at that eventually. Probably not soon, though.

._.

where have you heard that?

[AdoboNation]

because I'm pretty sure it's the exact opposite

[AdoboNation]

Wisdom

stop, please.

I'm not exactly reading Sonic as town but I'm not comfortable in getting him lynched as he is one of my extremely, extremely weak reads. He plays this way as town, this is what who he is. You're doing your death tunnel on him, and that isn't going to help us at all this game. If we are going to win, we need to have all townies on the same page to help get the lynch

Nacho, I've factored in Andy's post and I'm not exactly sure what to think of that slot.

Do you trust ffery and I to read mollie?

VOTE: better than nachos

[AdoboNation]

She posted a whole lot more here than she did in Two in a half men.

there, She didn't have enough posts for me to ping her, Nacho did.

Here I had a weak ping on here. If I can have a weak ping here, Nacho probably has something a whole lot more stronger

[AdoboNation]

so yeah, I do think Mollie did have enough posts for Nacho to ping her this game

[AdoboNation]

Andy is town reading some of his partners, and scum reading a few others I think but I'm not sure which.

looking at the list, and reasons, I'm guessing he's town-reading his weaker partners so, should they die the element of WIFOM is there

following that line of thought, You and Cabd both are very unlikely to be scum

Sonic and Obvious are likely to be the town-read Scum buddies and Mutters is there to throw off that thought process

TIP, N, and GIF are more likely to be his scum-read scum buddies, which could mean that I'm wrong on TIP but even so I'm still not willing to give him a look today

there is also one person missing from his analysis but I can't figure out who it is yet

[AdoboNation]

oh, it's Syry

he's the only one he hasn't given a detailed reasoning on and the only person he has a null....

[AdoboNation]

so yeah, I do think Mollie did have enough posts for Nacho

and Ffery

to ping her this game

>.>

[AdoboNation]

not enough posts tonight!!

Wisdom is scum

VOTE: wisdom

I do think mutley should be our lynch for this. TBH I still have a scum read on him

nachos and fecho

wisdom is scum

dont make me wait till day 4 to flip this scummer

MS is next, obviously.

except for #987

yeah its shit

VOTE: Wisdom

Or we could do MS next.

I don't like voting on a hydra so I'll ask my other head for this. Since obviously MM would get mad at me >.<''
But I still say it's MS or Mutley
BtN next.
TIP Then.
MrO After.

-Tsukasa

[AdoboNation]

better than nachos - [2] - sangres, AdoboNation

Mara, ffery, stop voting for town you dipshits.

I can't read mollie for a damn, but that's town andy. (And yes I've metastalked andy before)

If you think we are town, C, why are you appealing to us here?

[AdoboNation]

Scum-me makes it priority number one to get townread by you when you're town, ffery. I have no need to get townread by somebody who already knows i'm town.

Don't like this Self-Meta. It's something I would similarly say to Nacho as scum. This is reverse psychology at it's best

(As scum, I would do whatever it takes to get you to town-read me so I'm going to pretend that I'm don't care about it this game)

real common scum tactic, especially since I know you don't play the same scum-game twice which also means you won't use the same tactics you got Ffery to town-read you previously because she knows what to look out for

OOOOH
Cabd I like you for Town but post more

Mara, thoughts about this post?

Ehhh....

I don't really like it, but it doesn't look like a scum-buddy call out

[AdoboNation]

Yeah no you tricked the fuck out of me in xenoblade and this feels similar, and I'm not falling for that shit again. And yeah right, as if "cabd with like three completed games with ffery" knows your scum meta better than "OMFG i have a bazillion completed games with ffery" mollie.

You told me you pinned Ffery scum super easy in Xenoblade

[AdoboNation]

Mara how do you feel about GIF?

not sure, he isn't one of my strong reads

[AdoboNation]

CABD

YOU TOLD ME YOU CAUGHT FFERY SCUM EASY. YOU TOLD ME FFERY WAS THE EASIEST PERSON TO CATCH AS SCUM, WHY ARE YOU LYING?

ALSO, I ASKED YOU A FEW THINGS, WHY HAVN'T YOU ANSWERED THEM?

[AdoboNation]

You told me that I was easy to catch Meta-wise and that Ffery was even an easier catch than I am.

[AdoboNation]

better than nachos - [2] - sangres, AdoboNation

Mara, ffery, stop voting for town you dipshits.

I can't read mollie for a damn, but that's town andy. (And yes I've metastalked andy before)

If you think we are town, C, why are you appealing to us here?

CAAABBBBBBDDDDDD

[AdoboNation]

VOTE: Cabd

[AdoboNation]

Wisdom is town, we aren't going to touch him

[AdoboNation]

Mutters, please just follow me?

[AdoboNation]

please?

[AdoboNation]

Mutters, don't do this to me. TIP is town, I promise you TIP is town, Syr might be scum but I feel like he's town too and even if he was scum, Him bussing isn't to huge of a deal but please don't get all paranoid just cuz those two followed me

[AdoboNation]

Town:
Sangres
Muttley
TIP
Wisdom
Adobo
Syry
GIF

Scum:
btn
Cabd
N
Obvious
Metal Sonic

Syry, GIF, and Obvious are my weak reads that have the most potential for being wrong though MS and N both ignored both dead scum and opted to go for another lynch both day phases.

Metal Sonic didn't listen to any cases on BTN or Cabd, but instead decided to tunnel wisdom

I can't remember any of GIF's interactions with flipped scum
Obvious is weird, though he has the potential of towniness. IDK how to interpret that read list though

VOTE: N

[AdoboNation]

Wooot

GJ guys

I'm pretty sure we just won