Mini 1479: Perpetual MyLo II - GAME OVER!


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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:40 am

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Votecount 1.10:


TheIrishPope - [4] - Syryana, MrObvious, Mutleyddmc, Metal Sonic
sangres - [4] - Cabd, N, GuyInFreezer, Wisdom
MrObvious - [1] - AdoboNation
better than nachos - [1] - sangres

Not voting - [2] - better than nachos, TheIrishPope

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 6 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-08-10 22:32:45)
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:43 am

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In post 223, GuyInFreezer wrote:It bothered me because it looked forced.
That's because it was forced. The last game that Syr and I played as not-Rift, he misread me on day 1 and kept misreading me until he finally realized I was town on the last day he was in the game (day before LYLO). Wasn't pleasant, and I'll probably be jumpy for another game or two after that. I spent way too much time thinking about my reply.

The fact that Syr didn't pick up that my answer to him was overthought, though, that calls his alignment into question.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 222, Wisdom wrote:We? Does Nacho scumread me?
You kinda screwed up what was shaping up to be a perfectly good town read in your reaction to his first posts.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:50 am

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Is that a yes?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:51 am

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IMO TIP is scum. Wisdom is leaning scum. While mara I have a slight tinkering towards scum.

Everyone else is null I haven't found anyone too town yet
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:55 am

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Don't ever lynch Mutley
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 228, Wisdom wrote:Is that a yes?
As of our most recent convo, yes it is. When we were talking about you prior to Nacho posting, I had a slight town read though with the tiny bit of experiential meta I have with you (the short time you were in the Vengeball game), I wanted Nacho's thoughts. he was less (if you will pardon the expression) sanguine, though not strongly leaning scum.

Then you started jumping from post to post, essentially calling each post "scummy because Sangres is scum" even though the data in the thread already in some cases directly contradicted your statements, and perhaps even more hilarious, you constructed a scum motivation for us, "focus on one player", which is anti-scum behavior. Scum need to control and misdirect on the large canvas. I, fferyllt, might have such piss-poor scum strategy on my own. Nacho? Nah.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:09 am

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In post 230, Wisdom wrote:Don't ever lynch Mutley
Why?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:15 am

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In post 187, sangres wrote:it's highly disadvantageous for us as scum to pull a 1v1 with mollie on d1 because if we lynch her as scum and she flips town, we're going down immediately during the night or we're dying the next day by lynch, meaning Nacho-scum can't manipulate people and get points for his team like he wants to.
It's obvious only from this post that the plan to push mollie was pre-made. He had thought of this defense in case someone spotted what you're doing - he was silly to say it so easily the moment I did though.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:18 am

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In post 232, Mutleyddmc wrote:
In post 230, Wisdom wrote:Don't ever lynch Mutley
Why?
No chance you'd try to call me scum as scum.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:22 am

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Sorting mollie is a high priority because she's dangerous if scum and because Nacho and I both are capable of figuring her out. If she's town, awesome, and we move on. If not, then our vote likely won't be going anywhere. We knew we would be putting a vote down before Nacho made his first post because...I know this is shocking...he read the thread and talked to me before posting.

What is your rationale for thining that Syr is scum? And Mara?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:25 am

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In post 231, sangres wrote:As of our most recent convo, yes it is. When we were talking about you prior to Nacho posting, I had a slight town read though with the tiny bit of experiential meta I have with you (the short time you were in the Vengeball game)
Bullshit. There's no way you could infer anything at all from my play in Vengeball or from my early play here, much less that I'm town somehow.
Then you started jumping from post to post, essentially calling each post "scummy because Sangres is scum" even though the data in the thread already in some cases directly contradicted your statements
How come I've never heard about these "contradictions" yet? Shouldn't you be telling us about them?
, and perhaps even more hilarious, you constructed a scum motivation for us, "focus on one player", which is anti-scum behavior. Scum need to control and misdirect on the large canvas. I, fferyllt, might have such piss-poor scum strategy on my own. Nacho? Nah.
lolno. Surely it depends on the player playing scum, but it's a very common scum strategy to tunnel on a specific player, usually someone no1 else suspects, and ignore the rest of the game. That's exactly what you're doing, and it's not like Nacho to do that as town. As scum however he did exactly that in the one game I've seen him playing scum.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:28 am

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In post 235, sangres wrote:What is your rationale for thining that Syr is scum? And Mara?
They stated I'm town instead of trying to figure me out.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:43 am

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In post 236, Wisdom wrote:
In post 231, sangres wrote:As of our most recent convo, yes it is. When we were talking about you prior to Nacho posting, I had a slight town read though with the tiny bit of experiential meta I have with you (the short time you were in the Vengeball game)
Bullshit. There's no way you could infer anything at all from my play in Vengeball or from my early play here, much less that I'm town somehow.
Every post is grist for the mill. I sometimes have tentative reads before then end of page 1. Depending on how much pattern-matching I can do, I may even share some of them. And every new post sheds light on what came before. I change reads in midstream as well. And that's where I am with you at the moment. Your experience with me as a player is every bit as shallow as my experience with you. And it appears that your read on me is a hell of a lot stronger than mine on you.
Then you started jumping from post to post, essentially calling each post "scummy because Sangres is scum" even though the data in the thread already in some cases directly contradicted your statements
How come I've never heard about these "contradictions" yet? Shouldn't you be telling us about them?
I was hoping you'd be curious enough to look back and see what you missed. Last night/early this morning I posted a couple tentative town reads as I was going through the thread for the first time. Nacho posted a chain-lynch list this morning PRIOR to your accusing us of focusing on Mollie to the exclusion of other players. You apparently missed that in your haste to jump on each new post in isolation and cast it as scummy.
, and perhaps even more hilarious, you constructed a scum motivation for us, "focus on one player", which is anti-scum behavior. Scum need to control and misdirect on the large canvas. I, fferyllt, might have such piss-poor scum strategy on my own. Nacho? Nah.
lolno. Surely it depends on the player playing scum, but it's a very common scum strategy to tunnel on a specific player, usually someone no1 else suspects, and ignore the rest of the game. That's exactly what you're doing, and it's not like Nacho to do that as town. As scum however he did exactly that in the one game I've seen him playing scum.
Except that's not what we have done. Now, you are either intentionally cherry-picking our posts, or you are just plain not processing what you are reading. The former is scummy. The latter is close to alignment-neutral but still IMO often a characteristic of scum who know the answers and know what they want to construct.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:51 am

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You've not made any attempts to read any players. Your reads were based on things like "this player should have been annoyed by x post" and "this player shares our mollie scumread". Those reads are as good as inexistent to me. Same goes for Nacho randomly adding 2 names next to mollie then cooking up some weak reasons.

As for my read on you - you're correct, I don't know you and I cannot read you. That's why I wanted to hear from Nacho - I know Nacho.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:54 am

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In post 239, Wisdom wrote:
You've not made any attempts to read any players
. Your reads were based on things like "this player should have been annoyed by x post" and "this player shares our mollie scumread". Those reads are as good as inexistent to me. Same goes for Nacho randomly adding 2 names next to mollie then cooking up some weak reasons.

As for my read on you - you're correct, I don't know you and I cannot read you. That's why I wanted to hear from Nacho - I know Nacho.
Wrong again.

I'm headed out for a while. Hopefully I won't miss Mollie when she shows up again.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:58 am

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Hint: Calling things wrong doesn't make them any less accurate.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:40 am

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Ya'll are busy beavers.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:42 am

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Trying to sort out the wisdom v ffery thing. Feels like it's either TvT or TvS but really doesn't look like SvS.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:08 am

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Ffery

you're killing my town-read on you

put Nacho on
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:10 am

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Town:
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Syry
MS

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:13 am

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What happened to you thinking mollie is scum, Mara?

And why am I town?
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Town:
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AdoboNation
wisdom
Mutley
MS
GIF
Cabd

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry
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Sangres


This list makes me giggle, and this one is kiiinnddaaa interesting

Pedit: Cuz

lemme do my thing for a bit
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 am

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The fuck are you doing

Why is MS town
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 am

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In post 245, AdoboNation wrote:Town:
TheIrishPope
AdoboNation
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Mutley

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry
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Unsure:
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In post 247, AdoboNation wrote:Town:
TheIrishPope
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Mutley
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GIF
Cabd

Scum:
MrObvious
N
Syry
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Sangres


This list makes me giggle, and this one is kiiinnddaaa interesting

Pedit: Cuz

lemme do my thing for a bit
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